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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 3:57 PM ET
I've never seen data on this but it makes sense to me intuitively. It seems like those odd-man rushes or breakaways often happen when the puck skips past a forward on the point. I wonder if it's true or a figment of my imagination?

Mostly, I'm board right now because I like the idea of them getting three units in the mix. Anything to create some freshness and trim back the twins' PP time a bit...

- Carol Schram

I like the idea of three units just because I don't mind some experimenting. A .500 hockey club should be looking for developing.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
I like the idea of three units just because I don't mind some experimenting. A .500 hockey club should be looking for developing.
- manvanfan


Also, it seems like no line has been consistent at producing.
Bo's line is hot and cold
The Sedin's are clearly mostly cold, but have played well a couple games
Vanek and co are also hot and then disappear for long stretches too

So. 3 PP lines, whoever is producing gets a longer look.
i hope.

drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Nov 14 @ 4:01 PM ET
Awesome
- VanHockeyGuy

yeah, baby. kings. yeah kings.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
The Athletic has a post ranking team's NHL-ready core under 25. Vancouver ends up at 19th with Boeser, Horvat, Baertschi and Hutton mentioned, behind AZ and ahead of DET. Prospects were not considered

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
yeah, baby. kings. yeah kings.
- drew_doubty

Whatever,, kings will win, we all know, big whoop.

Thanks for coming out, don’t let the door smack you on the way out.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:11 PM ET
Whatever,, kings will win, we all know, big whoop.

Thanks for coming out, don’t let the door smack you on the way out.

- Makita

No Van is going to win tonight. I won't get to see them win though. I have to go to work tomorrow at 4 am
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
No Van is going to win tonight. I won't get to see them win though. I have to go to work tomorrow at 4 am
- manvanfan

Great optimism, not sure I can agree, but good on you
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 14 @ 4:27 PM ET
The Athletic has a post ranking team's NHL-ready core under 25. Vancouver ends up at 19th with Boeser, Horvat, Baertschi and Hutton mentioned, behind AZ and ahead of DET. Prospects were not considered


- WhiteLie


sounds about right.
most of our value has to be considered in the minors right now.
But I think even a couple of years ago we'd be ranked much lower.
onwards and upwards.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 14 @ 4:30 PM ET
The Athletic has a post ranking team's NHL-ready core under 25. Vancouver ends up at 19th with Boeser, Horvat, Baertschi and Hutton mentioned, behind AZ and ahead of DET. Prospects were not considered


- WhiteLie

Hopefully this changes drastically in another year or 2.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 14 @ 4:30 PM ET
Also, it seems like no line has been consistent at producing.
Bo's line is hot and cold
The Sedin's are clearly mostly cold, but have played well a couple games
Vanek and co are also hot and then disappear for long stretches too

So. 3 PP lines, whoever is producing gets a longer look.
i hope.

- dbot

That is because this team is bereft of talent.
The coaching is average at best, also.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
Great optimism, not sure I can agree, but good on you
- Makita

All I know is that they aren't going to lose every game. They aren't the Coyotes.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:35 PM ET
All I know is that they aren't going to lose every game. They aren't the Coyotes.
- manvanfan


Not sure if there's pressure to win in ARI like VAN.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 14 @ 4:36 PM ET
Hopefully this changes drastically in another year or 2.
- Nucker101

we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Nov 14 @ 4:37 PM ET
YOU GUYS ARE DONE FOR! YEAHHH!
- drew_doubty

The Dahlin dream is alive! YEAH!!!
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:38 PM ET
Millennials
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Nov 14 @ 4:40 PM ET
Awesome Carol.
We were having a very good conversation and maybe that's a good sign the team is going to turn it around tonight. 3-2 Canucks.

I'm pretty sure I asked you last year if the new 4 F 1 D PP units were scoring more or giving up more. I don't believe there was any difference between having 2 D instead.

Like having 2 guys bombing shots from the points. Maybe someone will score and boost the D scoring. Like when BB tried to help Tanev score into an empty net.

- manvanfan

You might also ask if teams with anemic power plays generally have 2 unproducing 3rd line players getting the most power play ice time.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 14 @ 4:43 PM ET
sounds about right.
most of our value has to be considered in the minors right now.
But I think even a couple of years ago we'd be ranked much lower.
onwards and upwards.

- dbot


Definitely, we have been transitioning to a younger core from a competing team. Hopefully in another couple years we will have a U-25 core with Bo, Boeser and a few more impact players
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 4:47 PM ET
Hopefully this changes drastically in another year or 2.
- Nucker101


#canucks prospect Elias Pettersson with 1A today for @vaxjolakers

He now has 18 PTS (6-12-18) in 16 SHL games

#Canucks prospect Petrus Palmu with 1A today

He now had 14 PTS (7-7-14) in 22 SM Liiga games

#Canucks prospect Olli Juolevi with 1G and 1A today for TPS

He is now up to 8 PTS (4-4-8) in 10 SM Liiga games

Nikita Tryamkin with 2 assists today

He is up to 16 PTS (4-12-16) in 29 KHL games

#Canucks
drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Nov 14 @ 4:49 PM ET
Whatever,, kings will win, we all know, big whoop.

Thanks for coming out, don’t let the door smack you on the way out.

- Makita

wow, makita.

just wow.

that's not very nice.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:53 PM ET
wow, makita.

just wow.

that's not very nice.

- drew_doubty

he's missing himself some some Stech right now , so knows we are in tough
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 14 @ 4:54 PM ET
Millennials
- VanHockeyGuy

...and short people who dig analytics.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Nov 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
i wonder if Green would consider going with 11 forwards and 7 defence?, with how he deploys the Twins and our PP struggles . We bring up Subban to play PP minutes only

it can't be any worse, can it?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 14 @ 5:00 PM ET
i wonder if Green would consider going with 11 forwards and 7 defence?, with how he deploys the Twins and our PP struggles . We bring up Subban to play PP minutes only

it can't be any worse, can it?

- onesmallleap

onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Nov 14 @ 5:01 PM ET
Carey Price mysterious injury again Damaged goods
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Nov 14 @ 5:02 PM ET

- Marwood

we can sell tickets

" One Night Only ! The Famous Subban! "
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