Theory: mostly short/small people are actually the ones who brush off analytics as useless and prefer having a lineup full of tough guys, they want their hockey team to be the bully they never could be

I think maybe the expectation of results is why people share a similar notion towards these advanced stats.

To me, statistics of any kind are simply a recorded history of events. One can make assumptions based off of them, but the stats are not predictive in nature. It bothers me when guys bash on +/- as a useless stat. All is does is show a ratio of times you were on the ice for goals for/against, its no more predictive than faceoff %, shooting %, save %, or shootout results.

If someone wants to extrapolate trends from the stats, they can try and build a case as to why certain players are better, thats fine. But I dont expect there to be 100% conclusive results because it just isnt possible in this sport
- WhiteLie

This sums it up perfectly. Well said friend

Theory: mostly short/small people are actually the ones who brush off analytics as useless and prefer having a lineup full of tough guys, they want their hockey team to be the bully they never could be
- Nucker101

But... but... i hate gudbranson....

I dont know as much as i probably should to respond properly but there are like 200 different stats in analytics to go along with corsi, fenwick, etc. There might be charts and metrics for all those but i havent really divulged into that world of it yet.

Gadjovichs stats, despite not getting a point yesterday, are aligned with the seeing eye test people. He was called upon so much last night and was apart of 2 screened goals. Kid is going to be real good.
- Codes1087

I've looked. I look at a ton of stats to try and figure out a reason why. There's nothing ever definite. I probably look at stats every single day when I think of something different. There's nothing that has ever said "this could be why" certain things are happening.

I think he will be a real good complimentary player, as he is too Nick Suzucki. Which could be EP. Create space, do the digging in the corners, collect rebounds for second chances.

Theory: mostly short/small people are actually the ones who brush off analytics as useless and prefer having a lineup full of tough guys, they want their hockey team to be the bully they never could be
- Nucker101

Have you ever heard of small dog syndrome?

Have you ever heard of small dog syndrome?
- manvanfan

yup

I think maybe the expectation of results is why people share a similar notion towards these advanced stats.

To me, statistics of any kind are simply a recorded history of events. One can make assumptions based off of them, but the stats are not predictive in nature. It bothers me when guys bash on +/- as a useless stat. All is does is show a ratio of times you were on the ice for goals for/against, its no more predictive than faceoff %, shooting %, save %, or shootout results.

If someone wants to extrapolate trends from the stats, they can try and build a case as to why certain players are better, thats fine. But I don't expect there to be 100% conclusive results because it just isnt possible in this sport
- WhiteLie

Exactly. The fact is that no team can lead every category. No team that leads a certain category wins it every year.

I've looked. I look at a ton of stats to try and figure out a reason why. There's nothing ever definite. I probably look at stats every single day when I think of something different. There's nothing that has ever said "this could be why" certain things are happening.

I think he will be a real good complimentary player, as he is too Nick Suzucki. Which could be EP. Create space, do the digging in the corners, collect rebounds for second chances.
- manvanfan

And you are right with the above. Variables will always have a place in fancy stats.

I hate to interrupt - you've ben having an interesting chat while I've been putting the new blog together...

Perhaps you can migrate on over?

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...o-rebound-in-LA/194/88897

Nikita Tryamkin with 2 assists today

He is up to 16 PTS (4-12-16) in 29 KHL games

yup
- Nucker101

does carol ever write like a preview blog?

does carol ever write like a preview blog?
- kicksave856

It's up


You got through this. You'll be a stronger man for it

It's up


You got through this. You'll be a stronger man for it
- Nucker101

i feel very weak right now.

thanks, carol.

I don't "understand" how people can live in Manitoba.
- VanHockeyGuy

fixed.

thanks, carol.
- kicksave856

This suggests you're a Millennial.

*Updated no-trust list*

a) short people
b) hockey analytics
c) millennials
- VanHockeyGuy

this was the greatest dion phaneuf pump and dump of all time.

- RealityChecker