Look at Kyle connor, nick schmaltz, tyler motte. While i agree that kids coming from NCAA have never been more ready and more skilled, it doesnt mean all kids are going to transition to pro like them. Gaudette and lockwood might end up like Molino. I wouldn't be so fast to pencil in gaudette is all i am saying
- Codes1087

Confirmation Bias - the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses. It's a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way.

Selecting five kids out of the 100's that play NCAA hockey, or dozens that are drafted, and say, or infer, that this is the norm for most ALL NCAA players is obviously incorrect.

There are as many examples of kids not making it as there are making it, but lets ignore that information.

NCAA has improved to the point it's a great league now, however, a good number of kids are being drafted out of the USHL which means that's where they're getting scouted first.

Molino is not a comparison in the slightest look at his meandering history and is an undrafted late bloomer that got noticed for a depth contract.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...a-forward-griffen-molino/

Four of the top 5 rookie scorers are from NCAA. The point was on developmental league being above CHL and rivaling AHL.

As for Gaudette there are no guarantees just like BB learned but would be shocked not to see him stick leaving the NCAA.
- Nuck4U

Maybe molino was a poor example given un drafted but i never like penciling anyone in or being to optimistic with the unknown. Nothing compares to the NHL and rookie success is completely situational given team, coaching, line mates, etc etc.

I like your optimism, i just dont like to get my hopes up on the what ifs. Id rather be pleasantly surprised lol

The last couple games the Canucks seem to start the game thinking they will lose.

Indeed. I actually blame the Sedins since they set the standard for soft play. The kids get tired and then want to play like them....speaking of which Henrik falls again and a shorty......unbelievable.
- TJTD

What's even more funny is they just dodged a break against on previous play. So instead of playing it safe, or looking to change, he goes in and coughs it up for the rest of that slow unit to get caught again

The last couple games the Canucks seem to start the game thinking they will lose.
- Retinalz

Tanev factor... no answers....

The last couple games the Canucks seem to start the game thinking they will lose.
- Retinalz

With these D pairings and PP set ups. Id think they were going to lose as well.

Confirmation Bias - the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses. It's a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way.

Selecting five kids out of the 100's that play NCAA hockey, or dozens that are drafted, and say, or infer, that this is the norm for most ALL NCAA players is obviously incorrect.

There are as many examples of kids not making it as there are making it, but lets ignore that information.

NCAA has improved as to the point it's a great league now, however, a good number of kids are being drafted out of the USHL which means that's where they're getting scouted first.
- LeftCoaster

Im truly not trying to shoot down his post or counter to start an argument. The facts are facts and 4 of the top 5 leading rookies coming from college is a testament to the hockey programs they have. I just cant buy into comparing a bunch of 1st round draft picks coming from college having immediate success with a 5th round draft pick and being told the success should translate over. Like i said, in a perfect world, gaudette becomes kesler 2.0 and we have a solid 2nd or 3rd line center next year, but i wont be dissapointed if hes utica bound first year

Im truly not trying to shoot down his post or counter to start an argument. The facts are facts and 4 of the top 5 leading rookies coming from college is a testament to the hockey programs they have. I just cant buy into comparing a bunch of 1st round draft picks coming from college having immediate success with a 5th round draft pick and being told the success should translate over. Like i said, in a perfect world, gaudette becomes kesler 2.0 and we have a solid 2nd or 3rd line center next year, but i wont be dissapointed if hes utica bound first year
- Codes1087

He might, hopefully, be a one-off and have some immediate success at the NHL level. It's far from a gaurantee though.

With these D pairings and PP set ups. Id think they were going to lose as well.
- manvanfan

The team is significantly worse with Edler back

Maybe molino was a poor example given un drafted but i never like penciling anyone in or being to optimistic with the unknown. Nothing compares to the NHL and rookie success is completely situational given team, coaching, line mates, etc etc.

I like your optimism, i just dont like to get my hopes up on the what ifs. Id rather be pleasantly surprised lol
- Codes1087

Fair enough its easier not to get disappointed that way. I'm not being optimistic though on Gaudette that is object deduction. We know there are no guarantees of course. To me Palmu making it would be optimistic.

Fair enough its easier not to get disappointed that way. I'm not being optimistic though on Gaudette that is object deduction. We no there are no guarantees of course. To me Palmu making it would be optimistic.
- Nuck4U

To me, if Goldobin was the only prospect to make the team next year, i wouldnt be surprised.

Tanev factor... no answers....
- Nuck4U

Actually no…we just suck.

Pouliot with a 61% CF through 2 periods. Kid continues to trend in the positive

Tanev factor... no answers....
- Nuck4U

I see it as kids getting tired and the "leaders" not playing hard enough. As for all the NCAA talk lets see where these kids are in February. Big Difference between the NCAA and NHL schedule.

We sure miss Tanev though

The team is significantly worse with Edler back
- Retinalz

I don't believe that. The pairings just aren't right. The PK was Edler-Hutton and MDZ-Guds in the second and they were good. Pouliot is not a 1St pairing IMO.

The pp having Gagner on the POint with the Sedins. Anybody who comes up with that idea should be let go on the spot.

The last couple games the Canucks seem to start the game thinking they will lose.
- Retinalz

That's how I start watching them.

The team is significantly worse with Edler back
- Retinalz

Pouliot with a 61% CF through 2 periods. Kid continues to trend in the positive
- Codes1087

He is playing very well the last few games.

Pouliot with a 61% CF through 2 periods. Kid continues to trend in the positive
- Codes1087

Watch a game. Go join the Arizona org. You can prove how good your team is there.

Pouliot with a 61% CF through 2 periods. Kid continues to trend in the positive
- Codes1087

I don't believe that. The pairings just aren't right. The PK was Edler-Hutton and MDZ-Guds in the second and they were good. Pouliot is not a 1St pairing IMO.

The pp having Gagner on the POint with the Sedins. Anybody who comes up with that idea should be let go on the spot.
- manvanfan

Gagner is terrible considering he is taking a spot from other players with more potential. Between him and H.Sedin giving up the puck on the blue line it is horrible to watch

He is playing very well the last few games.
- TJTD

I am really liking him more and more. He improves at every game.

By the way...

Having played less than 20 games this year in the NHL is a very small sample size for rookie scoring, however, out of the current top ten rookies in scoring, four of them played in the NCAA, four are from the CHL and two are from Sweden.

Another thing to consider, three of the NCAA players in that list are much older than the other kids, meaning they are much more physically and mentally prepared for the league. Boeser turns 21 in Feb. Kerfoot is 23 years old, Butcher is 22 years old about to turn 23, only Keller is a young kid having just turned 19.

1) Clayton Keller - NCAA
2) Brock Boeser - NCAA
3) Mathew Barzal - CHL
4) Jesper Bratt - Sweden
5) Yanni Gourde - CHL
6) Mikhail Sergachev - CHL
7) Will Butcher - NCAA
8) Adrian Kempe - Sweden
9) Alexander Kerfoot - NCAA
10) Nico Hischier - CHL

Confirmation Bias - the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses. It's a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way.

Selecting five kids out of the 100's that play NCAA hockey, or dozens that are drafted, and say, or infer, that this is the norm for most ALL NCAA players is obviously incorrect.

There are as many examples of kids not making it as there are making it, but lets ignore that information.

NCAA has improved to the point it's a great league now, however, a good number of kids are being drafted out of the USHL which means that's where they're getting scouted first.
- LeftCoaster

Agree you have a confirmation bias about tanking and NCAA. Perhaps its because you flunked out as a junior where I went the college route and got my degrees from there.

But mostly it is you missing the point. Which is about development comparison of CHL/AHL to NCAA. Not that all NCAA players are guaranteed NHL success. Just that the cream or best of them make it into the NHL direct without spending further years in the AHL.

Of course kids get drafted from USHL, or Canadian amateur leagues, to NHL teams and then go to NCAA. They wouldn't be able to qualify for NCAA if they were not playing in those leagues. Some of those playing NCAA that didn't get drafted sometimes are developed enough to sign as free agents.

So your last point is wrong again and missing the mark. But then again maybe you don't have a rigid bias and belief you know better.

Pouliot with a 61% CF through 2 periods. Kid continues to trend in the positive
- Codes1087

good trade by Benning!!