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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:51 PM ET
In a few weeks we'll be out of the playoff picture for good. Chances are Guddy is gonna get moved.
- LordHumungous

Send Stecher with him
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 13 @ 12:55 PM ET
In a few weeks we'll be out of the playoff picture for good. Chances are Guddy is gonna get moved.
- LordHumungous



Yup.

This team can't score, and could potentially be the lowest scoring team in the league by year end.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 12:55 PM ET
One can only hope
- LeftCoaster

It's inevitable.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 12:56 PM ET
Send Stecher with him
- Makita

lol...still on the anti Stecher thing hey ref?
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Nov 13 @ 1:05 PM ET
We need to sign EG long term no matter what , so he's here to protect and mentor our future Norris winner Joulevi when he comes over
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:16 PM ET
lol...still on the anti Stecher thing hey ref?
- LordHumungous

Just maintaining the standard, you know some on Gudbranson, Sutter, Hutton.

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:18 PM ET
Just maintaining the standard, you know some on Gudbranson, Sutter, Hutton.
- Makita

Hutton has improved, still not as efficient with the puck as Stecher.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:20 PM ET
Thats generally how guys get paid, market value by comparisons to their peers, which is what the post was about.

Who cares what they mean to you?

- LeftCoaster

I thought it meant that he was saying Gudbranson had a cup at first.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:21 PM ET
Ben Kuzma


Karl Alzner career stats (6.17 cap%)
NHL Totals 609 GP 19 G 102 A 121 PTS 183 PIM

Erik Gudbranson career stats
NHL Totals 355GP 12G 37A 49PTS 391PIM

Radko Gudas career stats (signed last season 4 years 3.35AAV)(4.59 cap%)
NHL Totals 284GP 18G 53A 71PTS 475PIM

Brenden Dillon career stats (signed 3 years ago 5 years 3.27 AAV)(4.58 cap%)
NHL Totals 382GP 15G 45A 60PTS 353PIM

Gudas and Dillon are better comparables then Alzner.

Cap hit 75 million (may or may not go up)X 4.59 percent. About 3.45 per season. I would take him at 3.45 or even 3.6 but there is no way he is worth 4-5.

- manvanfan


It will be in the LE category if we sign him with a cap hit of anything over 3 to play 3rd pairing
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:22 PM ET
Just maintaining the standard, you know some on Gudbranson, Sutter, Hutton.
- Makita


Consistency is key in here
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Nov 13 @ 1:23 PM ET
haven't watched it yet, but teams and the league like keeping the fans as emotional hostages.

fans and most people will spend excessively on entertainment and less on essentials.

as B_L listed a few alternative locations, it is funny that everyone knows the league doesn't want relocation of floundering teams, they want expansion money.

so much greed.

- hillbillydeluxe

remember that there IS a league imposed fee for relocation. In todays nhl it is likely to be around 150 M. Add the new jersey profits etc and should be good revenue for the league. So I doubt that is it. Id say it has more to do with screwing up details in the local / national TV deals. Not easy to fix
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 13 @ 1:25 PM ET
Just maintaining the standard, you know some on Gudbranson, Sutter, Hutton.
- Makita

i only see a couple/few players that will be around long term. the rest are just place fillers until the team actually needs "complementary" (start spelling it right people! and that means you lefty) players.

as for now, i'd be open to offers on almost everybody.

(and yes i know this is a recipe for a disastrous season or two. i'm team tank.)
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:27 PM ET
Just maintaining the standard, you know some on Gudbranson, Sutter, Hutton.
- Makita

classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
We need to sign EG long term no matter what , so he's here to protect and mentor our future Norris winner Joulevi when he comes over
- onesmallleap



HELL NO we don't
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:34 PM ET
My guess is Gudbranson goes to FLA or TOR
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:35 PM ET
i only see a couple/few players that will be around long term. the rest are just place fillers until the team actually needs "complementary" (start spelling it right people! and that means you lefty) players.

as for now, i'd be open to offers on almost everybody.

(and yes i know this is a recipe for a disastrous season or two. i'm team tank.)

- RealityChecker


Team place fillers
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 13 @ 1:37 PM ET
My guess is Gudbranson goes to FLA or TOR
- VanHockeyGuy

i don't see a trade until the new year.

my guess is that benning will negotiate to see how far apart they are. once it's clear that they can't work out a contract, benning will listen to offers. and unlike past years, i think (guess) benning makes a move well before the deadline.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
We need to sign EG long term no matter what , so he's here to protect and mentor our future Norris winner Joulevi when he comes over
- onesmallleap

On a serious note. EG would be quite hard to replace. Options, Luke Schenn, Jamie McBain, KB, Biega.

screwed.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:40 PM ET
i don't see a trade until the new year.

my guess is that benning will negotiate to see how far apart they are. once it's clear that they can't work out a contract, benning will listen to offers. and unlike past years, i think (guess) benning makes a move well before the deadline.

- RealityChecker

I think this might be the case as well.

When we are 12 pts out of a PO spot in January and 8 of our starters are out due to injury he ain't going to have much of a choice.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
My guess is Gudbranson goes to FLA or TOR
- VanHockeyGuy

I would add NYI to that list.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
On a serious note. EG would be quite hard to replace. Options, Luke Schenn, Jamie McBain, KB, Biega.

screwed.

- manvanfan

Have you checked their advanced stats, they just might be better
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
Have you checked their advanced stats, they just might be better
- Makita

I'm liking the way you are thinking up new ways of tanking. #Arizonamodel.

Keep up the good work.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 13 @ 1:55 PM ET
I think this might be the case as well.

When we are 12 pts out of a PO spot in January and 8 of our starters are out due to injury he ain't going to have much of a choice.

- LordHumungous

the only thing that worries me is that the team that makes the first consequential deal sets the market place. good luck jim.

on the other hand, tdl's are trending downward in terms of talent being moved/available. teams looking to bolster their stretch drives may be anxious to get their guy.

(we've become the oilers. the most exciting aspects of the season occur off the ice )
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:56 PM ET
Have you checked their advanced stats, they would be better
- Makita


Fixed
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
the only thing that worries me is that the team that makes the first consequential deal sets the market place. good luck jim.

on the other hand, tdl's are trending downward in terms of talent being moved/available. teams looking to bolster their stretch drives may be anxious to get their guy.

(we've become the oilers. the most exciting aspects of the season occur off the ice )

- RealityChecker

lol true. I just hope we aren't there for 10 years
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