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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 13 @ 3:02 AM ET
They're obviously related. They've got the same hands.
- RealityChecker

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 13 @ 3:09 AM ET
They're obviously related. They've got the same hands.
- RealityChecker

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 13 @ 9:47 AM ET
Fire Green!!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 9:53 AM ET
Fire Green!!
- Marwood



Rally call for the THC crowd?
Spark it up 💨💨💨💨💨💨
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
Ben Kuzma
The pending free agent will be looking to sign a long-term deal in the $4 to $5 million per season range, up from his $3.5 million salary. Kuzma notes Karl Alzner‘s five-year deal at a $4.65 million cap hit.


Karl Alzner career stats (6.17 cap%)
NHL Totals 609 GP 19 G 102 A 121 PTS 183 PIM

Erik Gudbranson career stats
NHL Totals 355GP 12G 37A 49PTS 391PIM

Radko Gudas career stats (signed last season 4 years 3.35AAV)(4.59 cap%)
NHL Totals 284GP 18G 53A 71PTS 475PIM

Brenden Dillon career stats (signed 3 years ago 5 years 3.27 AAV)(4.58 cap%)
NHL Totals 382GP 15G 45A 60PTS 353PIM

Gudas and Dillon are better comparables then Alzner.

Cap hit 75 million (may or may not go up)X 4.59 percent. About 3.45 per season. I would take him at 3.45 or even 3.6 but there is no way he is worth 4-5.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 13 @ 10:28 AM ET
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says Ottawa Senators need a new home http://ow.ly/ygqb30gxFg0

Quebec city says Bon Jour
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 13 @ 10:59 AM ET
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says Ottawa Senators need a new home http://ow.ly/ygqb30gxFg0

Quebec city says Bon Jour

- VANTEL


public funds...

with the salary cap, everyone knows the league is making money, more and more every year.

the NHL doesn't let its players go to the Olympics.

wouldn't seeing your country represented be in the best interest of the public/fans?

love it when bettman starts throwing sht out there.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 13 @ 10:59 AM ET
Cap hit 75 million (may or may not go up)X 4.59 percent. About 3.45 per season. I would take him at 3.45 or even 3.6 but there is no way he is worth 4-5.
- manvanfan


Ya, I don't mind Gudbranson that much for a sheltered role, so anything under 4 I would resign him – 3.75 x 4 years would be good, though probably unrealistic. If he was seeking more than 4, I'd want to see him traded and see what he could bring back.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Nov 13 @ 11:00 AM ET
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says Ottawa Senators need a new home http://ow.ly/ygqb30gxFg0

Quebec city says Bon Jour

- VANTEL


I went to see a Sens game a few years back and it sucked, gotta drive out to Kanata and the parking took forever. it's a horrible set up but it would be a shame if they lost the team. In my mind, Arizona shouldn't have a team, and the attendance numbers in Carolina and Florida are horrific - they don't deserve teams either. Seattle, KC and Hamilton would all be candidates.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 13 @ 11:04 AM ET
public funds...

with the salary cap, everyone knows the league is making money, more and more every year.

the NHL doesn't let its players go to the Olympics.

wouldn't seeing your country represented be in the best interest of the public/fans?

love it when bettman starts throwing sht out there.

- hillbillydeluxe


I think I've posted this before, but it's a pretty enlightening look at how teams strong arm the cities/public into funding stadiums that the teams/league then make money off.

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
I think I've posted this before, but it's a pretty enlightening look at how teams strong arm the cities/public into funding stadiums that the teams/league then make money off.


- NewYorkNuck


haven't watched it yet, but teams and the league like keeping the fans as emotional hostages.

fans and most people will spend excessively on entertainment and less on essentials.

as B_L listed a few alternative locations, it is funny that everyone knows the league doesn't want relocation of floundering teams, they want expansion money.

so much greed.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says Ottawa Senators need a new home http://ow.ly/ygqb30gxFg0

Quebec city says Bon Jour

- VANTEL



10 American NHL cities can barely get 9000 asses in their seats for home games and the idiot Buttman wants to move Ottawa because they are a few thousand shy of a sellout...

But yet FLA...ARZ..DAL...CAR...stay right where they are...

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
Ya, I don't mind Gudbranson that much for a sheltered role, so anything under 4 I would resign him – 3.75 x 4 years would be good, though probably unrealistic. If he was seeking more than 4, I'd want to see him traded and see what he could bring back.
- NewYorkNuck

If they could get 2- 2nd round picks back or Conditional if the team reaches the SCF and he plays 50% of the games 1st and 2nd. Sold IMO.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ben Kuzma


Karl Alzner career stats (6.17 cap%)
NHL Totals 609 GP 19 G 102 A 121 PTS 183 PIM

Erik Gudbranson career stats
NHL Totals 355GP 12G 37A 49PTS 391PIM

Radko Gudas career stats (signed last season 4 years 3.35AAV)(4.59 cap%)
NHL Totals 284GP 18G 53A 71PTS 475PIM

Brenden Dillon career stats (signed 3 years ago 5 years 3.27 AAV)(4.58 cap%)
NHL Totals 382GP 15G 45A 60PTS 353PIM

Gudas and Dillon are better comparables then Alzner.

Cap hit 75 million (may or may not go up)X 4.59 percent. About 3.45 per season. I would take him at 3.45 or even 3.6 but there is no way he is worth 4-5.

- manvanfan


One glaring omission...
All of the above have achieved nothing.
No cups the only comparable that counts.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 11:51 AM ET
I think I've posted this before, but it's a pretty enlightening look at how teams strong arm the cities/public into funding stadiums that the teams/league then make money off.


- NewYorkNuck


Thats an NFL ploy besides the Flames owners spinning it to line their pockets to an advantage only. New arenas or stadiums do not generate more tax revenues nor economic growth but rather relocate them.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
The Brenden Dillon comparison, which I made last year and Vantel spit in my general direction lol, is a very good one.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
One glaring omission...
All of the above have achieved nothing.
No cups the only comparable that counts.

- Nighthawk

I would be very surprised if even you know WTF that means
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 13 @ 12:19 PM ET
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NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says Ottawa Senators need a new home http://ow.ly/ygqb30gxFg0

Quebec city says Bon Jour

- VANTEL


The only french I know is Bon Jovi
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
The only french I know is Bon Jovi
- VanHockeyGuy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvCvsRp5ho

Great f'n tune!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 13 @ 12:28 PM ET
I would be very surprised if even you know WTF that means
- LeftCoaster



Comparisons mean nothing to me.
Does that suffice?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 12:29 PM ET
I thought that was Miley Cirus.

- boonerbuck

lol...she's and idiot just like the Beebs...

LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 13 @ 12:34 PM ET
Comparisons mean nothing to me.
Does that suffice?

- Nighthawk

Thats generally how guys get paid, market value by comparisons to their peers, which is what the post was about.

Who cares what they mean to you?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
Ya, I don't mind Gudbranson that much for a sheltered role, so anything under 4 I would resign him – 3.75 x 4 years would be good, though probably unrealistic. If he was seeking more than 4, I'd want to see him traded and see what he could bring back.
- NewYorkNuck

In a few weeks we'll be out of the playoff picture for good. Chances are Guddy is gonna get moved.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 13 @ 12:45 PM ET
In a few weeks we'll be out of the playoff picture for good. Chances are Guddy is gonna get moved.
- LordHumungous

One can only hope
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 13 @ 12:49 PM ET
In a few weeks we'll be out of the playoff picture for good. Chances are Guddy is gonna get moved.
- LordHumungous


If and when it comes to that, I'm not gonna be choked.
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