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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
Advantage Dragon. I stand by my post and would like to read his stance on that play. He's been a good evaluator of coaches here, dispite getting made fun of for it.
- Nucker101


Getting ahead of yourself on Green I think. Dragon was not on WD's case until the Flames series collapse. This far into WD's career, it was not obvious where it was going. Canucks had a strong season. Green has only had a strong start. Things can go tits up pretty quick and too many people on here wait for the media to spoon feed them their criticisms. In two months, Green may be the goat.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 10 @ 7:10 PM ET
That picture does look bad, so does the one with me and nucker101 in that truck stop, i mean just because someone engages oin felatio one time, didn't make them a sex crazed c0ck sucker, does it?
- Pres.cup


Bet you can't suck just one....
Mark Messier
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:10 PM ET
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Coach Green update:

-Maintenance day for Markstrom
-Eriksson will play on this road trip
-Boucher has been assigned to Utica
-Demko will return to Utica this weekend
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:11 PM ET
Don't forget OJ snd Dahlin on D
- VANTEL


Demko in net.

I am very excited that Canucks will basically have an extended training camp to get prepared for next year when they roll with the same roster straight from Penticton tournament to opening day
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:12 PM ET
But is Green incapable of knowing how to work future HOFers? It always goes both ways, if you credit a coach then credit him with both positive and negatives.

Virtanen's biggest criticisms before being sent down include effort and poor conditioning. Pouliot was prone to mental lapses (according to one article on him). Those to me seem curable by "oh man I am running out of chances to be an NHLer if I dont get my act together", no matter how many coaches tell them their issues

- WhiteLie


Are you referencing the Sedins? TG has handled them very well and they are producing despite their cascading limitations.

Accountability is one thing that a player can put upon himself. Coaches play a role there too. But I don't know if you factor in not only the nuance but the effect of coaching and strategic communication.

Any player will know they are in a spot with the conditions you set up. That player can try all they want to do better but that isn't enough. There is more to a developing player then effort. The connection is made to get them to recognize not only what isn't working but also how to adjust to what and how things will work to be better.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:13 PM ET
Demko in net.

I am very excited that Canucks will basically have an extended training camp to get prepared for next year when they roll with the same roster straight from Penticton tournament to opening day

- WhiteLie

I was thinking this years TDL
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:17 PM ET
You think they are bringing in 5 rookie forwards next year?
- VANTEL


4 tops... why the season ending evaluation.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:19 PM ET

- Marwood


lots of thought in that counter.....
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:19 PM ET
Demko in net.

I am very excited that Canucks will basically have an extended training camp to get prepared for next year when they roll with the same roster straight from Penticton tournament to opening day

- WhiteLie

Pinching myself!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:19 PM ET
4 tops... why the season ending evaluation.
- Nuck4U



Sly and the Family Stone , The Drifters
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:21 PM ET
Sly and the Family Stone , The Drifters
- VANTEL


If they can be as silky smooth in their transition then they will be hits to earn a spot
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:22 PM ET
lots of thought in that counter.....
- Nuck4U

It was the only way I could convey the kaleidoscope of thoughts that I had upon reading that.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:25 PM ET
Demko in net.

I am very excited that Canucks will basically have an extended training camp to get prepared for next year when they roll with the same roster straight from Penticton tournament to opening day

- WhiteLie


Sarcasm aside.... Lind and Gadjo will have a good chance to transition from summer camp into AHL.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 7:25 PM ET
We are going to try the Edmonton 'all kids no vets' model
- WhiteLie

Toronto had 6 last season.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:26 PM ET
It was the only way I could convey the kaleidoscope of thoughts that I had upon reading that.
- Marwood


I don't fault you for your limitations...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 10 @ 7:27 PM ET
I'd like to hear Dragon's opinion on this, he had the balls to call out WD before any of us and was proven right in the end. He also thought Green would be a good replacement and was proven right again.

I respect his opinion even more so than Goddess Carol's if I'm being completely honest.

- Nucker101



Honestly dude…you crack me up…

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:27 PM ET
If they can be as silky smooth in their transition then they will be hits to earn a spot
- Nuck4U


Hank and Danny out next year opens two spots.

I don't think Dahlen will come in and take Sven or Dorsetts spot. I imagine they will trade for a op 6 or sign a free agent but i definitely don't think they are bringing in 4-7 new guys.

Goldobin if he keeps scoring could replace someone this year. Gaudette just scored a few minutes ago nice roof shot
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:29 PM ET
We are going to try the Edmonton 'all kids no vets' model
- WhiteLie

It would fill the rink
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:29 PM ET
Are you referencing the Sedins? TG has handled them very well and they are producing despite their cascading limitations.

Accountability is one thing that a player can put upon himself. Coaches play a role there too. But I don't know if you factor in not only the nuance but the effect of coaching and strategic communication.

Any player will know they are in a spot with the conditions you set up. That player can try all they want to do better but that isn't enough. There is more to a developing player then effort. The connection is made to get them to recognize not only what isn't working but also how to adjust to what and how things will work to be better.

- Nuck4U


Hmm to me they have been dreadful and I was a big supporter of theirs. In nearly an hour of power play time this year, Daniel has 3 points, Henrik 0

I am not discrediting coaching completely, I just was making the point that those types of comments come across exaggerating the effects of on ice performance, while not crediting him with the bad. To me, Green had a massive effect on Virtanen learning how to be a professional off ice, on the ice he plays the same style he always has with more consistency and Pouliot has only been here a month. Not taking anything away from him, just making a point that the credit is excessive
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:30 PM ET
Sarcasm aside.... Lind and Gadjo will have a good chance to transition from summer camp into AHL.
- Nuck4U


Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:30 PM ET
Getting ahead of yourself on Green I think. Dragon was not on WD's case until the Flames series collapse. This far into WD's career, it was not obvious where it was going. Canucks had a strong season. Green has only had a strong start. Things can go tits up pretty quick and too many people on here wait for the media to spoon feed them their criticisms. In two months, Green may be the goat.

- boonerbuck


Without Tanev and road trip marathon of November will test TG a lot on how he makes adjustments. It will be a great learning curve with the challenges ahead.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 10 @ 7:32 PM ET
Getting ahead of yourself on Green I think. Dragon was not on WD's case until the Flames series collapse. This far into WD's career, it was not obvious where it was going. Canucks had a strong season. Green has only had a strong start. Things can go tits up pretty quick and too many people on here wait for the media to spoon feed them their criticisms. In two months, Green may be the goat.

- boonerbuck

Well said.

WD had his flaws but he did get a non-playoff club to 103 pts his first year…let's see if Green can match that. After WD's playoff year he didn't have a whole lot to work with but again was making some mistakes… as most new coaches do.

I still think this club will finish around 24th. Our play of late is indicative of how things are going to go for us this year IMO.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:32 PM ET
Goldobin wearing the A tonight playing first unit PK and manning the point on PP with Holm
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
Hank and Danny out next year opens two spots.

I don't think Dahlen will come in and take Sven or Dorsetts spot. I imagine they will trade for a op 6 or sign a free agent but i definitely don't think they are bringing in 4-7 new guys.

Goldobin if he keeps scoring could replace someone this year. Gaudette just scored a few minutes ago nice roof shot

- VANTEL


With two TDL trades and two retirements that is four spots open. My take is they will evaluate what they have first before season ends to know what to do in the offseason.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:36 PM ET
With two TDL trades and two retirements that is four spots open. My take is they will evaluate what they have first before season ends to know what to do in the offseason.
- Nuck4U

It won't be filled with 4 rookies
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