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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 6:30 PM ET
Dahlen 2G 1A today
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 6:33 PM ET
Not completely directed at you, but this hyperbolic notion that coaches "know how to work ____" is hilarious to me. Yes, some coaches can get through to players better than others by communicating systems better, but saying Green is the reason Virtanen and Pouliot are better is like saying Green is why the Sedin's suck this year.

Personally I think getting sent/kept in the AHL, being traded, and getting old had more impact on those 4 guys than the coaching did

- WhiteLie

If someone says it is the reason then you better damn well believe it is the reason.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 10 @ 6:34 PM ET
Not completely directed at you, but this hyperbolic notion that coaches "know how to work ____" is hilarious to me. Yes, some coaches can get through to players better than others by communicating systems better, but saying Green is the reason Virtanen and Pouliot are better is like saying Green is why the Sedin's suck this year.

Personally I think getting sent/kept in the AHL, being traded, and getting old had more impact on those 4 guys than the coaching did

- WhiteLie

Agreed and I have been saying this for an awful long time, as have others.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 10 @ 6:36 PM ET
From who?
- Marwood


That could maybe be a TDL question.
Idk tbh but JB prolly resigns him.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 6:38 PM ET
Not completely directed at you, but this hyperbolic notion that coaches "know how to work ____" is hilarious to me. Yes, some coaches can get through to players better than others by communicating systems better, but saying Green is the reason Virtanen and Pouliot are better is like saying Green is why the Sedin's suck this year.

Personally I think getting sent/kept in the AHL, being traded, and getting old had more impact on those 4 guys than the coaching did

- WhiteLie


Those factors can bury a developing player without the right coaching.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 10 @ 6:38 PM ET
It's about time someone said that. The top 10 is just too good to pass up
- VANTEL

Miss the playoffs by a point and win the lottery
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 10 @ 6:38 PM ET
Fcuk mark messier
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 10 @ 6:39 PM ET
Tanev hurt again.

Good when healthy and a hard guy to replace. You guys may want to keep him if bottoming out is to be avoided.

- Tumbleweed



Indeed. Trade Tanev would set us back longer than JB or FA would like. Only a top prospect D for starters would make sense.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
Fcuk mark messier
- RealityChecker

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
Dahlen 2G 1A today
- VANTEL

trade burm,vanek and ? at the tdl and sign EP and dahlin and give them some games, bring up goldy.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
trade burm,vanek and ? at the tdl and sign EP and dahlin and give them some games, bring up goldy.
- Bettmanhatesus

sign gaudette as well.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
Fcuk mark messier
- RealityChecker

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
[quote=WhiteLie]Not completely directed at you, but this hyperbolic notion that coaches "know how to work ____" is hilarious to me. Yes, some coaches can get through to players better than others by communicating systems better, but saying Green is the reason Virtanen and Pouliot are better is like saying Green is why the Sedin's suck this year.

Personally I think getting sent/kept in the AHL, being traded, and getting old had more impact on those 4 guys than the coaching did

- Makita[
/quote]
Agreed and I have been saying this for an awful long time, as have others.



You must come from the old school of coaching... give me what I want and how I want it or to hell with you. Plus if I see something I don't like then you are that way forever in my mind. Tough messages have a place if delivered strategically.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 6:49 PM ET
Fcuk mark messier
- RealityChecker


Did he choke on a French crawler...?
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 10 @ 6:51 PM ET
Did he choke on a French crawler...?
- Nuck4U

no mcdavids wee wee
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
sign gaudette as well.
- Bettmanhatesus

Let's not forgot trading Hutton and bringing over OJ
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 6:56 PM ET
Looking through draft eligible D for this year. There are a lot of russian D that played in the CHL that had good seasons that weren't drafted.
http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=312821
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 6:58 PM ET
Those factors can bury a developing player without the right coaching.
- Nuck4U


But is Green incapable of knowing how to work future HOFers? It always goes both ways, if you credit a coach then credit him with both positive and negatives.

Virtanen's biggest criticisms before being sent down include effort and poor conditioning. Pouliot was prone to mental lapses (according to one article on him). Those to me seem curable by "oh man I am running out of chances to be an NHLer if I dont get my act together", no matter how many coaches tell them their issues
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 7:01 PM ET
trade burm,vanek and ? at the tdl and sign EP and dahlin and give them some games, bring up goldy.
- Bettmanhatesus


Expiring contracts will be on the trade menu for JB by TDL. Seems logical that JB's development plan probably involves the top 4 prospects to be brought in for evaluation.

Have them blend into roles vacated by trade and injury(self-induced too) where the following lines could be played out to end the season.

Dahlen EP JV
Goldy Gaudette Gagner

Then asses what off season moves should or can take effect.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:03 PM ET
But is Green incapable of knowing how to work future HOFers? It always goes both ways, if you credit a coach then credit him with both positive and negatives.

Virtanen's biggest criticisms before being sent down include effort and poor conditioning. Pouliot was prone to mental lapses (according to one article on him). Those to me seem curable by "oh man I am running out of chances to be an NHLer if I dont get my act together", no matter how many coaches tell them their issues

- WhiteLie

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:04 PM ET
Expiring contracts will be on the trade menu for JB by TDL. Seems logical that JB's development plan probably involves the top 4 prospects to be brought in for evaluation.

Have them blend into roles vacated by trade and injury(self-induced too) where the following lines could be played out to end the season.

Dahlen EP JV
Goldy Gaudette Gagner

Then asses what off season moves should or can take effect.

- Nuck4U

You think they are bringing in 5 rookie forwards next year?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 10 @ 7:05 PM ET
You think they are bringing in 5 rookie forwards next year?
- VANTEL


Not a chance.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:06 PM ET
You think they are bringing in 5 rookie forwards next year?
- VANTEL


We are going to try the Edmonton 'all kids no vets' model
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:07 PM ET
Expiring contracts will be on the trade menu for JB by TDL. Seems logical that JB's development plan probably involves the top 4 prospects to be brought in for evaluation.

Have them blend into roles vacated by trade and injury(self-induced too) where the following lines could be played out to end the season.

Dahlen EP JV
Goldy Gaudette
Gagner

Then asses what off season moves should or can take effect.

- Nuck4U

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
We are going to try the Edmonton 'all kids no vets' model
- WhiteLie

Don't forget OJ snd Dahlin on D
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