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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:10 PM ET
Welcome to team tank.
- Nucker101

I'm on team development. Asset management. umm and ugh defence first.

Not team tank.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:11 PM ET
We should get together for a beer sometime friend
- Codes1087


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
I'm on team development. Asset management. umm and ugh defence first.

Not team tank.

- manvanfan


Trading Tanev hurts development, hurts the defense and improves the tank so you're hurting your own belief system. I wish you well with this internal struggle.

He probably saves that goal that everyone is making fun of with Gudbranson.


I'm glad to have 50% of manvanfan on team tank.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:14 PM ET
Look at that grit! Two hands on the stick, stick on the ice, nobody is getting into that crease!
- nucks_94


I just dont understand why he moved. Is he that slow that in order to meet a gliding Rakell on the otherside of the net he needed to start this early?

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:16 PM ET
Trade him.
- manvanfan

Totally in favor of moving him if the return is correct. But we need to do it before his injuries really take hold and no GM will touch him. But he's our top shut down guy so it makes the situation difficult.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:18 PM ET
I'm on team development. Asset management. umm and ugh defence first.

Not team tank.

- manvanfan

you can only spend so long coddling injury-prone soft dmen...there comes a time...
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:21 PM ET
Thanks Carol
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:23 PM ET
Im open for this discussion. What are the positive eye tests that gudbranson passes. And of those, where does he exceed past the average shutdown defender?
- Codes1087


Codes, and other stat nerds please look into this for me.

Gudbranson is highly effective at keeping players away from the high risk scoring areas

He turns low volume high percentage shots against into high volume low percentage shots.

Basically, in plain speak, for every potential high danger shot against that would occur with a league average defender he allows 1.3 more low danger shots through.

This, combined with his start zone ratio, results in a skewed corsi for, as well as bringing down most other fancy start values he'd otherwise have.

That being said, the allowing of 130 low danger shots rather then 100 high danger shots results in around 9 goals against at low risk shooting percentage average of 7 percent compared to 18 goals against with a high risk shooting area percent average of 18 percent.

TLDR
Gudbranson sucks at preventing shots but is elite at preventing goals.

Short TLDR
Gud is elite

nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:25 PM ET
Codes, and other stat nerds please look into this for me.

Gudbranson is highly effective at keeping players away from the high risk scoring areas

He turns low volume high percentage shots against into high volume low percentage shots.

Basically, in plain speak, for every potential high danger shot against that would occur with a league average defender he allows 1.3 more low danger shots through.

This, combined with his start zone ratio, results in a skewed corsi for, as well as bringing down most other fancy start values he'd otherwise have.

That being said, the allowing of 130 low danger shots rather then 100 high danger shots results in around 9 goals against at low risk shooting percentage average of 7 percent compared to 18 goals against with a high risk shooting area percent average of 18 percent.

TLDR
Gudbranson sucks at preventing shots but is elite at preventing goals.

Short TLDR
Gud is elite


- Pres.cup


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:26 PM ET
you can only spend so long coddling injury-prone soft dmen...there comes a time...
- LordHumungous

Unfortunately he doesn't stay healthy enough.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:28 PM ET
Trading Tanev hurts development, hurts the defense and improves the tank so you're hurting your own belief system. I wish you well with this internal struggle.

He probably saves that goal that everyone is making fun of with Gudbranson.


I'm glad to have 50% of manvanfan on team tank.

- Nucker101

nope. 0%
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:30 PM ET
nope. 0%
- manvanfan

Disagree
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
Disagree
- Nucker101

I can't be. I don't mind JB.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
I just dont understand why he moved. Is he that slow that in order to meet a gliding Rakell on the otherside of the net he needed to start this early?


- WhiteLie


Gudbranson is rhd, where is his partner Edler?
Gudbranson is moving to the left side because Edler is mia..

#nothisfault

Fixed
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
Welcome to team tank.
- Nucker101


So?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
I can't be. I don't mind JB.
- manvanfan

Too late.


In my mind half of you is on board.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
So?
- VanHockeyGuy


Nothing, it's good
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
Gudbranson is rhd, where is his partner Hutton?
Gudbranson odds moving to the left side because Hutton is mia..

#nothisfault

- Pres.cup

That was Edler who was left chasing from the corner.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
Gudbranson is rhd, where is his partner Hutton?
Gudbranson odds moving to the left side because Hutton is mia..

#nothisfault

- Pres.cup


Hutton was on the bench.....
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:35 PM ET

- nucks_94


Neither of those are Gudbransons check, one is buttons and one is Dorsets, Dorset is beaten so gudbranson is turning to cover his man, meanwhile Edler is singing kumbiya somewhere with his finger up his butt

Fixed
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:37 PM ET
Neither of those are Gudbransons check, one is buttons and one is Dorsets, Dorset is beaten so gudbranson is turning to cover his man, meanwhile Hutton is singing kumbiya somewhere with his finger up his but
- Pres.cup

No... Just because Gudbranson is on the left side of your screen, doesn't mean he is playing the left side on the ice... And he was playing with Edler here
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:37 PM ET
That was Edler who was left chasing from the corner.
- manvanfan


Edler was on his side in the left corner going up against the C and RW(I believe Perry and Rakell) and lost the puck battle.

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:37 PM ET
That was Edler who was left chasing from the corner.
- manvanfan


Lol... my bad, it's hard to tell because.... well, the lhd isn't even in the picture.

So then that goal is on edler, not Hutton or gudbranson.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
Neither of those are Gudbransons check, one is buttons and one is Dorsets, Dorset is beaten so gudbranson is turning to cover his man, meanwhile Hutton is singing kumbiya somewhere with his finger up his but
- Pres.cup



1) Hutton isn't on the ice.

2) Wingers are supposed to cover the points, the Dorsett's job was to block the passing lane to the Duck on the edge of the frame who was at that point

3) Gudbranson was covering an imaginary player, perhaps Ben Hutton who was on the bench
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
Lol... my bad, it's hard to tell because.... well, the lhd isn't even in the picture.

So then that goal is on edler, not Hutton or gudbranson.

- Pres.cup

I like this schtick

I guess Codes needed an enemy lol
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