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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
Yes, Ottawa fans are brimming over with confidence. It
is not their normal nature. Leafs fans, on the other hand, tend to celebrate the potential of success only to succumb to the disappointment of failure. Maybe this is the year Leaf fans will keep expectations inside the realm of reasonable hope.

Colorado announcer got everybody excited when he said that very few teams could match the firepower of the Senator power play including Duchene, Stone, Hoffman, Brassard and Karlsson. It was a lethal unit in Stockholm.

- spatso


i agree. leafs cant possibly compete with the sens offense. its not even close. sens are light years ahead. enjoy your route planning festivities. im jealous of the sens spot in the standings, their offense and their win/loss record.

sens easily the cup favourites. leafs and bolts need to trade first round picks and their top centers for help or theyll never take one of the sens 4 playoff spots from them.

last year leaf fans said their team wouldnt make the playoffs and battle for last. yet you said they would make the playoffs. you were right. this year leaf fans saying the sens would go further than last years playoff run. lets see what happens. remember also it was leaf fans all upset and making a fuss about taking matthews over laine. expectations spatso style with a sarcastic twist.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:54 PM ET
i agree. leafs cant possibly compete with the sens offense. its not even close. sens are light years ahead. enjoy your route planning festivities. im jealous of the sens spot in the standings, their offense and their win/loss record.

sens easily the cup favourites. leafs and bolts need to trade first round picks and their top centers for help or theyll never take one of the sens 4 playoff spots from them.

last year leaf fans said their team wouldnt make the playoffs and battle for last. yet you said they would make the playoffs. you were right. this year leaf fans saying the sens would go further than last years playoff run. lets see what happens. remember also it was leaf fans all upset and making a fuss about taking matthews over laine. ecpectations spatso style with a sarcastic twist.

- systemtool


yes, you are correct. I always said Leafs should take Matthews.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 12:55 PM ET
yes, you are correct. I always said Leafs should take Matthews.
- spatso



yes. i was right on with my sarcasm.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:02 PM ET
yes. i was right on with my sarcasm.
- systemtool


great letter by Turris to the Ottawa community.

http://www.tsn.ca/a-thank...letter-to-ottawa-1.913930
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:06 PM ET
yes, you are correct. I always said Leafs should take Matthews.
- spatso

This is an important point. I have always thought the Toronto media had way too much influence in the Leaf decision making. The media creates a theme, they pump the theme and everyone comes to believe in the theme because nobody wants to break the story line.

I believe the Austin Matthews story is a prime example of a runaway theme. Matthews was not even close to being the best player in the draft after Christmas. Both Finns were clearly better and had it not been for the media pumping his story as the Leafs first overall selection he would have dropped to third or fourth. Simply, everyone had too much invested into the storyline too pull back on the story everyone (including fans) wanted to see.

Anyway it will be apparent once the season starts that Matthews (a good player) does not punch in the same class as the Finns. Leaf fans will likely be discouraged. But, I don't think anyone will figure it out. They will wonder why everyone missed on Laine and they will blame Leaf management. They will miss on the pervasive influence the media has on Leaf management decisions.

- spatso

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
It was a controlled time series survey. Two scouts was a huge shift in the base. Headline kept the Matthews pump in place causing some people to believe he was the consensus pick. but if you checked in the body of the story it was apparent that the consensus had been downgraded. Laine had all the momentum coming into the draft. But way too much credibility had been spent on Matthews. He is a good hockey player and he will be fine. But Leafs will regret not taking the superstar.
- spatso

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:09 PM ET
And, so, when White and Brown are the first and second line centres at the WJC this year and Chabot is Team Canada's #1 D you will remain silent. When Matthews struggles you will remain silent. When the Leafs languish in last place, well out of the playoffs by December you will remain silent.

Your still trying to pretend that Karlsson is not a prodigy, a truly gifted player.

I understand that your attacks on Edmonton players in the past and now Ottawa players in all about deflecting attention from the overall failure of the Leafs. Well, get ready, you are headed to another year of futility.

- spatso

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 13 @ 1:21 PM ET
[quote=systemtool]

Old news. Before the draf I did say the Leafs should take Matthews. Also. after Christmas last year when Leaf fans went negative on the team I said they would make the playoffs.

As you can see from some of my wondeful comments, I have never been sour with the Leafs as a team. My irritation was with the media and MLSE management. I believe Shanahan has repaired a large part of the MLSE problems. there is not much difference in the Toronto media.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
TSN did their weekly power rankings. They ranked the Sens ahead of the Leafs again. Perhaps they did not get the memo.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
Old news. Before the draf I did say the Leafs should take Matthews. Also. after Christmas last year when Leaf fans went negative on the team I said they would make the playoffs.

As you can see from some of my wondeful comments, I have never been sour with the Leafs as a team. My irritation was with the media and MLSE management. I believe Shanahan has repaired a large part of the MLSE problems. there is not much difference in the Toronto media.

- spatso



rattled
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
TSN did their weekly power rankings. They ranked the Sens ahead of the Leafs again. Perhaps they did not get the memo.
- spatso


is this standings? or scoreboard? or both?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:12 PM ET
TSN did their weekly power rankings. They ranked the Sens ahead of the Leafs again. Perhaps they did not get the memo.
- spatso



yup even tsn is planning the parade as leafs and tampa have given up after the sens got duchene.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 5:13 PM ET
[quote=spatso]


yes you were wrong and now cant man up. its what you do best.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Nov 13 @ 7:30 PM ET
TSN did their weekly power rankings. They ranked the Sens ahead of the Leafs again. Perhaps they did not get the memo.
- spatso

I'm curious.

Last season you tried to argue that the Leafs were an inferior team because they relied heavily on three point games to amass points. This season the Senators have lost as many games as they've won, but rely heavily on the three point games to amass points.

Does this mean the Senators are an inferior team to the Leafs?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 13 @ 8:10 PM ET
Yes, Ottawa fans are brimming over with confidence. It
is not their normal nature. Leafs fans, on the other hand, tend to celebrate the potential of success only to succumb to the disappointment of failure. Maybe this is the year Leaf fans will keep expectations inside the realm of reasonable hope.

Colorado announcer got everybody excited when he said that very few teams could match the firepower of the Senator power play including Duchene, Stone, Hoffman, Brassard and Karlsson. It was a lethal unit in Stockholm.

- spatso


Hey Spatso, how about you (frank) off
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 13 @ 8:16 PM ET
TSN did their weekly power rankings. They ranked the Sens ahead of the Leafs again. Perhaps they did not get the memo.
- spatso


How about we look at the industry that puts their MONEY where their mouth is.

Current Odds to win the Stanely Cup on November 5th ... right after the Leafs losing streak and the toughest part of their schedule.

Leafs #2 +700
Ottawa #17 +3300

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:23 PM ET
the nhl has its own power rankings

https://www.nhl.com/standings
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 14 @ 8:53 AM ET
Leafs have a crazy stretch coming of Road games.
Leafs win 3 games without Matthews

Leafs 12-7
Sens 8-8


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 14 @ 12:09 PM ET
Habs claim niemi

tank is on?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 14 @ 12:47 PM ET
Habs claim niemi

tank is on?

- Tumbleweed


It is a very good year for teams to acquire multiple picks.

But, Niemi is hard to figure out. EVen if Price has serious injury it still does not make much sense. If the Habs were about to trade for a goalie and Montoya was included in the deal....maybe.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
It is a very good year for teams to acquire multiple picks.

But, Niemi is hard to figure out. EVen if Price has serious injury it still does not make much sense. If the Habs were about to trade for a goalie and Montoya was included in the deal....maybe.

- spatso


colorado acquired the #16 pick last week.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 14 @ 3:29 PM ET
It is a very good year for teams to acquire multiple picks.

But, Niemi is hard to figure out. EVen if Price has serious injury it still does not make much sense. If the Habs were about to trade for a goalie and Montoya was included in the deal....maybe.

- spatso


not really
He is not very good anymore
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 14 @ 6:36 PM ET
It is a very good year for teams to acquire multiple picks.

But, Niemi is hard to figure out. EVen if Price has serious injury it still does not make much sense. If the Habs were about to trade for a goalie and Montoya was included in the deal....maybe.

- spatso


too bad the sens dont pick until the fourth round this draft, in a year where its good to have multiple picks.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 15 @ 2:56 AM ET
too bad the sens dont pick until the fourth round this draft, in a year where its good to have multiple picks.
- systemtool


I don't think anybody is really worried about it. They are loaded with prospects. More important, they are capped out with huge contracts to get done this year and next. My assumption is they will be moving bodies for picks and prospects starting very soon.

I do believe they will add one more power forward using the cap space from MacArthur having been put on LTIR this week and not expected to return this season.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 15 @ 8:38 AM ET
I don't think anybody is really worried about it. They are loaded with prospects. More important, they are capped out with huge contracts to get done this year and next. My assumption is they will be moving bodies for picks and prospects starting very soon.

I do believe they will add one more power forward using the cap space from MacArthur having been put on LTIR this week and not expected to return this season.

- spatso


you really never dial it back with the Sens and the Prospects.. we are going on 6 years of you pumping them up back to the great rebuild of 2011 when they had 3 picks in 1st round ..all of who were going to be impact players..blah blah
every year several rookies are ready to make the jump

Chabot was a lock to make the team out of camp..ROY and whatever else you predicted that didnt come true (every(frank)ingthing)
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