Yesterday Alfredsson jokingly said he could see himself coming back to the NHL as a team owner. I think this year is going to be Melnyk's last hurrah. If he sells the team it will be to local Ottawa buyers, there is huge money floating around, especially as it relates to LeBreton redevelopment and I wondered if Alfie might end up being the face of a new ownership group.

Yesterday Alfredsson jokingly said he could see himself coming back to the NHL as a team owner. I think this year is going to be Melnyk's last hurrah. If he sells the team it will be to local Ottawa buyers, there is huge money floating around, especially as it relates to LeBreton redevelopment and I wondered if Alfie might end up being the face of a new ownership group.
- spatso

that would be good for the sens.

they could use a real owner and change in direction with management.

Yeah, I see it as a tie point as well ............... but the term "loser point" is in wide use, even among the sports pundits on TSN and Sportsnet...... and everyone knows what it means.

If I had my way, they'd end the game after three periods (in the regular season) win or tie, and rank the teams by Winning Percentage, not points, get rid on them.
- D0PPELGANGER

End it in a tie, and rank by points%, get rid of the OT and SO gimmick.

Will never happens because the current system keeps more teams on contention for longer.

End it in a tie, and rank by points%, get rid of the OT and SO gimmick.

Will never happens because the current system keeps more teams on contention for longer.
- Aetherial

I like the 3 on 3. Make it sudden death without any time outs and have them play until a goal is scored.

That may be true with someone else .............. but I've been on the record about my dislike for the stupid loser point/shootout since the beginning of this season.......... scroll back and see for yourself.
- D0PPELGANGER

What a (frank)ing joke you are. Oh sure, Since the beginning of this season... yeah, it is fine now.

How about some quotes from the past from you...

The only true comparison is Regulation wins A.K.A 5 vs 5.
...
While the crapple laffs had 33 Regulation wins, vs the Capitals 45.

The crapple laffs only managed to squeak into the plays, on the strength of there loser points.

The loser points leader leafs finished with fewer Wins, than the two teams behind them in the Conference............ so failure to win in overtime and shootouts is what propelled the crapple laffs into
- D'oops

The only thing in the regular season, that compares favourably to the playoffs, is 5 vs 5 regulation wins.

You are hanging onto regular season 3 vs 3 OT and Shootouts ............. which don't happen in the playoffs .............. you've got to drop that bone, it's irrelevant to the playoffs.
- D'oops

Senators won 44 games, 34 in regulation.

leafs won 40 games, 33 in regulation.
...
the leafs lead the league in loser points, A.K.A not able to win in 3 on 3 or SOs
- D'oops

Oh, and you must have been pretty rattled to not understand the difference between "their" and "there".

What a (frank)ing joke you are. Oh sure, Since the beginning of this season... yeah, it is fine now.

How about some quotes from the past from you...
- Aetherial

ouch. you brought the hurt aeth.

booo those crapple laffs....

ouch. you brought the hurt aeth.

booo those crapple laffs....
- systemtool

As you well know, it isn't tough to find idiotic quotes from the idiot Sens fans on these threads.

What a (frank)ing joke you are. Oh sure, Since the beginning of this season... yeah, it is fine now.

How about some quotes from the past from you...









Oh, and you must have been pretty rattled to not understand the difference between "their" and "there".
- Aetherial

ha..I looked for those loser point quotes from dopps..didnt see them.

But ya...he went all in on the Leafs and loser points last season, now its the Sens turn

I have some sympathy for Leaf fans on this issue. They had a long history of GMs making desperation trades to try and sustain the image of relevance. It all blew up in their face on the Kessel trade. Many Leaf fans were deeply wounded by the experience. Their comments about the Sens giving up picks and prospects has something to do with their wanting Sens fans to know some of the anguish and ridicule they absorbed in the past. I remember the time period very well. It is for that reason that I tend to let up on some of the Leaf fans when they get so obviously angry. All anger is rooted in hurt. It is not enough for them to know the joy of winning they want other fans to know the anguish of defeat as they have experienced it.
- spatso

Doesnt that pretty much sum up the Sens existence?

It makes sense for Elite teams to make the push and add players by moving picks and prospects (Pens adding Kessel), but the Sens who nobody considers a contender at this point ..not so much

I have some sympathy for Leaf fans on this issue. They had a long history of GMs making desperation trades to try and sustain the image of relevance. It all blew up in their face on the Kessel trade. Many Leaf fans were deeply wounded by the experience. Their comments about the Sens giving up picks and prospects has something to do with their wanting Sens fans to know some of the anguish and ridicule they absorbed in the past. I remember the time period very well. It is for that reason that I tend to let up on some of the Leaf fans when they get so obviously angry. All anger is rooted in hurt. It is not enough for them to know the joy of winning they want other fans to know the anguish of defeat as they have experienced it.
- spatso

Well up until the Salary Cap came in, leafs management would try and build a team with money, handing out retirement contracts and bringing in high priced free agents.

They continued in this methodology well after the Salary Cap was implemented, as they well down on the learning curve.

So finally they've seen the light, and decided to use the Oilers re-building blueprint ...... suck and tank, to earn high draft picks, and start from the ground up.

But as I mentioned before, it's impossible to draft all the components required to build a true Cup contender, so at some point they're going to have to pivot and trade some of their "future" assets to acquire the missing parts needed.


None of these leaf trolls that constantly post here want to discuss this particular issue, as they seem to get their jollies from constantly repeating their same old anti Sens posts, and rarely mention the leafs or other teams in the Atlantic Division.


I doubt very much that any of these leaf trolls could go a whole complete week, without posting their usual tired old Sens bashing comments, and instead discuss the leafs and what they should do to improve their team to take a serious run a the Cup in the next few seasons, or any other issue.

They just can't stop their natural inclination of ignoring the leafs shortcomings, and bashing the Senators, the team, the players, the fans, the owner and all the same old same old issues they can't comment enough about, all while turning a blind eye to their own team.


I know I could go an entire week of not posting anything about the leafs, and I know they could not do the same in regards to the Senators.

End it in a tie, and rank by points%, get rid of the OT and SO gimmick.

Will never happens because the current system keeps more teams on contention for longer.
- Aetherial

It would be Winning percentage (like the NFL) because there would no longer be points awarded for losing ............. so no need to even have points ........ just winning percentage.

I know it will never happen, for the above mentioned reasons.......... you and I are on the same page here

Well up until the Salary Cap came in, leafs management would try and build a team with money, handing out retirement contracts and bringing in high priced free agents.

They continued in this methodology well after the Salary Cap was implemented, as they well down on the learning curve.

So finally they've seen the light, and decided to use the Oilers re-building blueprint ...... suck and tank, to earn high draft picks, and start from the ground up.

But as I mentioned before, it's impossible to draft all the components required to build a true Cup contender, so at some point they're going to have to pivot and trade some of their "future" assets to acquire the missing parts needed.


None of these leaf trolls that constantly post here want to discuss this particular issue, as they seem to get their jollies from constantly repeating their same old anti Sens posts, and rarely mention the leafs or other teams in the Atlantic Division.


I doubt very much that any of these leaf trolls could go a whole complete week, without posting their usual tired old Sens bashing comments, and instead discuss the leafs and what they should do to improve their team to take a serious run a the Cup in the next few seasons, or any other issue.

They just can't stop their natural inclination of ignoring the leafs shortcomings, and bashing the Senators, the team, the players, the fans, the owner and all the same old same old issues they can't comment enough about, all while turning a blind eye to their own team.


I know I could go an entire week of not posting anything about the leafs, and I know they could not do the same in regards to the Senators.
- D0PPELGANGER

lightning are looking unstoppable. beat down the sharks at home. not easy to do. head and shoulders above any other team in the atlantic.

leafs with a good win last night against a struggling team. habs with a chance to make the atlantic 3-0 against the wild on their road trip.

bruins/leafs back-to-back this weekend. will be a tough set for both teams.

sens with a real good chance to put some distance between themselves and the bruins/leafs with 4 easy points up for grab against a depleted av's team.

lightening are looking unstoppable. beat down the sharks at home. not easy to do. head and shoulders above any other team in the atlantic.

leafs with a good win last night against a struggling team. habs with a chance to make the atlantic 3-0 against the wild on their road trip.

bruins/leafs back-to-back this weekend. will be a tough set for both teams.

sens with a real good chance to put some distance between themselves and the bruins/leafs with 4 easy points up for grab against a depleted av's team.
- Tumbleweed

I didnt watch the TB/SJ game, but the score indicates "beat down"..but not much else.

Shots 30-23 for SJ
Corsi 61-44 for SJ
High Danger corsi 9-6 for SJ

Now score effects in play..but that does not smell like a beat down to me.
TB getting some good Goaltendin

I didnt watch the TB/SJ game, but the score indicates "beat down"..but not much else.

Shots 30-23 for SJ
Corsi 61-44 for SJ
High Danger corsi 9-6 for SJ

Now score effects in play..but that does not smell like a beat down to me.
TB getting some good Goaltendin
- senstroll

i know.

but to spazzo the simpleton it looks like it.

I didnt watch the TB/SJ game, but the score indicates "beat down"..but not much else.

Shots 30-23 for SJ
Corsi 61-44 for SJ
High Danger corsi 9-6 for SJ

Now score effects in play..but that does not smell like a beat down to me.
TB getting some good Goaltendin
- senstroll

Seems like every day I am seeing results that don't align with Corsi. leafs weren't in the ballpark and they won, and that is far from the first time for them, or any other teams.

I have to wonder if there is a simple flaw with Corsi in that teams with a lead tend to not press, but play a more defensive game and limit high danger chances. You will see them dump and chase more, not pinch defenseman as much etc. Whereas teams behind in the game are pressing, pinching defenseman and likely taking more shots.

i know.

but to spazzo the simpleton is looks like it.
- Tumbleweed

thats fair

Seems like every day I am seeing results that don't align with Corsi. leafs weren't in the ballpark and they won, and that is far from the first time for them, or any other teams.

I have to wonder if there is a simple flaw with Corsi in that teams with a lead tend to not press, but play a more defensive game and limit high danger chances. You will see them dump and chase more, not pinch defenseman as much etc. Whereas teams behind in the game are pressing, pinching defenseman and likely taking more shots.
- Aetherial

yes like I mentioned score effects come into play

I didnt watch the TB/SJ game, but the score indicates "beat down"..but not much else.

Shots 30-23 for SJ
Corsi 61-44 for SJ
High Danger corsi 9-6 for SJ

Now score effects in play..but that does not smell like a beat down to me.
TB getting some good Goaltendin
- senstroll

Every shot Stamkos and Kucherov take are "high danger" doe

Seems like every day I am seeing results that don't align with Corsi. leafs weren't in the ballpark and they won, and that is far from the first time for them, or any other teams.

I have to wonder if there is a simple flaw with Corsi in that teams with a lead tend to not press, but play a more defensive game and limit high danger chances. You will see them dump and chase more, not pinch defenseman as much etc. Whereas teams behind in the game are pressing, pinching defenseman and likely taking more shots.
- Aetherial

i have a simpler theory. People who have never played hockey believe they can measure something they have never really understood. i have not looked but I assume the Corsi on last night's game shows the Wild dominating the play. IT does not mean anything.

i have a simpler theory. People who have never played hockey believe they can measure something they have never really understood. i have not looked but I assume the Corsi on last night's game shows the Wild dominating the play. IT does not mean anything.
- spatso

I played hockey last week

I played hockey last week
- senstroll

I played (pick up) hockey twice a week during the summer.

i have a simpler theory. People who have never played hockey believe they can measure something they have never really understood. i have not looked but I assume the Corsi on last night's game shows the Wild dominating the play. IT does not mean anything.
- spatso

what a weird thing to say given you've never played hockey.

yes like I mentioned score effects come into play
- senstroll

I saw most of the game on replay today. Except when Minnesota was down and pressing hard, i didn't think the game was as lopsided as people made it seem. Andersen didn't save their lives yesterday. I actually thought the Leafs shows a little more last night than the past couple weeks.

Still a (frank) ton of room to improve though.

- Aetherial

everyone will look at it differently.

i see 9 of the current playoff teams above the line; based on point %.

by game 30, i'd expect that number to rise to 12 or so.

by the end of the year, only 2-3 teams below the line should be playoff teams.

so i'd expect some of bos, mtl, edm and cal to move up to playoff positions. some of col, NJ, vegas and ott to fall out by the early december.