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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 6:26 PM ET
Yeah it's not looking great as of now, but the team is also shooting at like 2% without McDavid on the ice (unsustainably low) and around 6% with him on. Both will even out with an increase of around 3-4%.

Not only are Puljujarvi and Slepyshev not yet pulling their weight, but even a solid bet like Jokinen isn't working. Same for Strome.

- MaximumBone


To be honest, from what I've seen so far, bad luck is as much an issue as bad process. That said, the lineup is still unbalanced...
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:26 PM ET
I want to see Nuge get rw time with McD and put Drai with Luc and see if they can get two lines going.
- Iggysbff

I'm SO sick of seeing Lucic go from effective one game to completely and hopelessly useless another. The amount of times he goes way offside, makes a soft back pass when juuust in the zone or dekes his way into 3 opposing players is absurd.

Just like early last year, he looks like a burden on every C but Nuge.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:27 PM ET
Yeah it's not looking great as of now, but the team is also shooting at like 2% without McDavid on the ice (unsustainably low) and around 6% with him on. Both will even out with an increase of around 3-4%.

Not only are Puljujarvi and Slepyshev not yet pulling their weight, but even a solid bet like Jokinen isn't working. Same for Strome.

- MaximumBone


Is the goofy looking (frank) gonna get called up with Drai out do you think?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 6:28 PM ET
Well now you've done it, I demand pics of both!
- Wildschwein


Yeah, people who make "your mom" jokes at me have really never seen my mom...
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:29 PM ET
To be honest, from what I've seen so far, bad luck is as much an issue as bad process. That said, the lineup is still unbalanced...
- lumlums

If they can give a consistent effort from the outset of a game and maintain that over time, they'll start getting bounces.

Some more of those PPs that every other team seems to be getting would help, too but I know that won't happen (not saying the refs are biased, just that the rulebook seems to be called differently from Eastern Conference games).
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:29 PM ET
Yeah, people who make "your mom" jokes at me have really never seen my mom...
- lumlums


I come from the far North my good man, you'd be surprised what gets us going.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:30 PM ET
Is the goofy looking (frank) gonna get called up with Drai out do you think?
- Wildschwein

I hope not. Needs more time to establish consistency of effort and results in my eyes. Then again, I also felt that way before they called up Draisaitl in 2015.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
If they can give a consistent effort from the outset of a game and maintain that over time, they'll start getting bounces.

Some more of those PPs that every other team seems to be getting would help, too but I know that won't happen (not saying the refs are biased, just that the rulebook seems to be called differently from Eastern Conference games).

- MaximumBone


I'm not one to blame the refs by any means, but even I'm noticing it.

Might need to sign Wideman, just to keep them in line.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 6:32 PM ET
I come from the far North my good man, you'd be surprised what gets us going.
- Wildschwein


Well, she has a pulse if that's what you mean...?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:32 PM ET
I hope not. Needs more time to establish consistency of effort and results in my eyes. Then again, I also felt that way before they called up Draisaitl in 2015.
- MaximumBone


Well you've convinced me. Bring on the Pulj!
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
Well, she has a pulse if that's what you mean...?
- lumlums


Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Oct 15 @ 6:40 PM ET
Really? What are your expectations from them? I'm figuring 40-ish points from Maroon and 50-ish from Lucic and Nuge.

No (frank)ing idea with the rest.

- Wildschwein


Less than last year?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 6:44 PM ET
If they can give a consistent effort from the outset of a game and maintain that over time, they'll start getting bounces.

Some more of those PPs that every other team seems to be getting would help, too but I know that won't happen (not saying the refs are biased, just that the rulebook seems to be called differently from Eastern Conference games).

- MaximumBone


I haven't seen enough western games outside of Edmonton to comment, but I really wouldn't be surprised...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 6:44 PM ET

- Wildschwein

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:47 PM ET
I haven't seen enough western games outside of Edmonton to comment, but I really wouldn't be surprised...
- lumlums


Are you a closet Oil fan Lums?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
I'm SO sick of seeing Lucic go from effective one game to completely and hopelessly useless another. The amount of times he goes way offside, makes a soft back pass when juuust in the zone or dekes his way into 3 opposing players is absurd.

Just like early last year, he looks like a burden on every C but Nuge.

- MaximumBone


Nuge is getting a raw deal. He's being asked to drag plumbers around the ice and produce. He is much better than the numbers he's putting up.

Woodguy on lowetide put some numbers around what I've been saying for a couple years. Chia has traded everyone that was able to produce away from McDavid. And we wonder why we have no secondary scoring?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:48 PM ET

- Wildschwein


That's exactly how I picture you!
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
That's exactly how I picture you!
- Iggysbff


Its really not that far off the mark actually.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 6:53 PM ET
Are you a closet Oil fan Lums?
- Wildschwein


I live in Edmonton
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 6:54 PM ET
I live in Edmonton
- lumlums


Oh.










Does your mother live there as well?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 15 @ 6:57 PM ET
Oh.










Does your mother live there as well?

- Wildschwein



Sorry man, she's in the UK, and will be retiring to one of the Greek islands within the year...
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Oct 15 @ 7:00 PM ET


Sorry man, she's in the UK, and will be retiring to one of the Greek islands within the year...

- lumlums


Well I tried anyways. Let me know if she's coming north for Christmas.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Oct 15 @ 7:00 PM ET
I live in Edmonton
- lumlums

You moved back? I thought you were still in the states?
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Oct 15 @ 7:05 PM ET
Nuge is getting a raw deal. He's being asked to drag plumbers around the ice and produce. He is much better than the numbers he's putting up.

Woodguy on lowetide put some numbers around what I've been saying for a couple years. Chia has traded everyone that was able to produce away from McDavid. And we wonder why we have no secondary scoring?

- Iggysbff



I watched nervously the entire year last year. Yes, I was a doubter early on. I just looked at the roster and didn't think McDavid and Talbot would be able to carry them to a playoff berth.relative health and A few players had career years and I was wrong, but I still feel it's a pretty one dimensional team.

Here we are a year later, it's unlikely there's a repeat of the career years, less game breaking talent, injuries and higher expectations?

Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Oct 15 @ 7:05 PM ET
You moved back? I thought you were still in the states?
- Iggysbff

Deported for violating sheep like he did back in Buxton.
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