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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 18 @ 4:40 PM ET
2 years ago he got 22 and a half mins of ice time

last year 20

This year hopefully even less. Id be surprised if he passed 5 unless they gave him PP time

- Sabresfan-365


You missed the most important point regarding Bogo. He also needs to stay healthy if he even wants to sniff anything over 5 goals this year.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 18 @ 4:41 PM ET
i wouldn't say we had 0. The problem was none of our players were being used to their strengths. It was like Bylsma looked at what a guy was good at and then decided to to the exact opposite with him. It was completely maddening.
- HonkFortheGoose



i would. at times mccabe looked the part, hopefully see more of that this year.


None of them were being used to their strengths because doing so would have exposed the team badly.

Yes Ristolainen should not have been given all those mins especially in the d-zone, but who the hell else was bylsma going to give it to. bogosian?
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Sep 18 @ 4:41 PM ET
Might be late to the party, but anyone listen to 91 NHL Network on XM this morning? I could of sworn they said the game would be aired on Carolina media.. ?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 18 @ 4:41 PM ET
You missed the most important point regarding Bogo. He also needs to stay healthy if he even wants to sniff anything over 5 goals this year.
- HonkFortheGoose


Yeah i didnt even get to that
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
Might be late to the party, but anyone listen to 91 NHL Network on XM this morning? I could of sworn they said the game would be aired on Carolina media.. ?
- 51_Killer


If it is, then you might be able to find a bootleg feed somewhere. But the Sabres aren't doing a TV broadcast of any kind.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
I haven't said it's championship. But you're acting like it's second rate and it's for sure better than that.
- HonkFortheGoose


I don't know how to judge the defense we haven't played anybody good lol

We played the Jets and the Panthers who let's be honest did not look like the Panthers at all so I can't give the defense credit

Like I said if the defense shuts down the Denver Broncos and the Atlanta Falcons then yes great D
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Sep 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
Might be late to the party, but anyone listen to 91 NHL Network on XM this morning? I could of sworn they said the game would be aired on Carolina media.. ?
- 51_Killer

Hopefully Carolina will have a hockey stream unlike Buffalo " hockey town"
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 18 @ 4:47 PM ET
I don't know how to judge the defense we haven't played anybody good lol

We played the Jets and the Panthers who let's be honest did not look like the Panthers at all so I can't give the defense credit

Like I said if the defense shuts down the Denver Broncos and the Atlanta Falcons then yes great D

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Sure you can. That defense by all rights should have given up way more than 9 points yesterday. The time of possession was heavily in favor of the Panthers. Yet somehow, the defense held them out of the end zone.

Were there times they probably could have gotten off the field earlier? Sure. But considering that the offense didn't help them out in any way yesterday, they played a great game.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Sep 18 @ 4:50 PM ET
Sure you can. That defense by all rights should have given up way more than 9 points yesterday. The time of possession was heavily in favor of the Panthers. Yet somehow, the defense held them out of the end zone.

Were there times they probably could have gotten off the field earlier? Sure. But considering that the offense didn't help them out in any way yesterday, they played a great game.

- HonkFortheGoose

The defense played good but I'm not going to call them a championship defense or a top 5 defense in the league yet until they beat elite teams that's all I'm saying

And
I'm sorry cam was just a mess yesterday he did not look anything like Cam Newton at all ...


GERBE!!!75PTS
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Sep 18 @ 4:51 PM ET
Anyways let's talk hockey

Anybody have the lineups yet or did I miss that
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 18 @ 4:51 PM ET
Hopefully Carolina will have a hockey stream unlike Buffalo " hockey town"
- GERBE!!!75PTS


Audio only on this one. Most teams don't televise preseason games.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Sep 18 @ 4:53 PM ET
I just looked at the line I thought Jack was playing

Ughhh come on
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 18 @ 4:54 PM ET
The defense played good but I'm not going to call them a championship defense or a top 5 defense in the league yet until they beat elite teams that's all I'm saying

And
I'm sorry cam was just a mess yesterday he did not look anything like Cam Newton at all
...

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Perhaps just maybe the defense had something to do with that?

He was sacked or hit 13 times yesterday...but no it couldn't be the defense that caused that
GERBE!!!75PTS
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Sep 18 @ 4:55 PM ET
Audio only on this one. Most teams don't televise preseason games.
- BINGO!


No offense to any Buffalo people but the Sabres piss me off every time in the preseason it seems like they're only team that doesn't have video cameras for the preseason

usually playing the Leafs you have to watch the Leafs TV broadcast so (frank)ing annoying
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 18 @ 4:55 PM ET
Anyways let's talk hockey

Anybody have the lineups yet or did I miss that

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Canes

Skinner - Ryan - Di Giuseppe
Jooris - Necas - Saarela
McGinn - Poturalski - Miller
Tolchinsky - Wallmark - Hoffman

Hanifin - Pesce
Bean - Wesley
Fleury - van Riemsdyk

Jeremy Smith gets the start, Alex Nedeljkovic swaps in midgame.


Sabres

Girgensons - ROR - Okposo
Pouliot - Reinhart - Moses
Griffith -Rodrigues - Pu
Smith - Ciscuolo - Bailey

Guhle - Ristolainen
McCabe - Fedun
Nelson - Goloubef

Lehner and Ullmark in net.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Sep 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
Perhaps just maybe the defense had something to do with that?

He was sacked or hit 13 times yesterday...but no it couldn't be the defense that caused that

- Stripes77


I don't think the defense had anything to do with it just my opinion he did not look good at all

If they went with Derek Anderson the game might have been a little more different imo
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 18 @ 4:57 PM ET
2 years ago he got 22 and a half mins of ice time

last year 20

This year hopefully even less. Id be surprised if he passed 5 unless they gave him PP time

- Sabresfan-365



On the flip side, fewer minutes = more productive minutes. Risto at 22 and Bogo at 18 are going to be better and therefore more productive players imo
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Sep 18 @ 4:58 PM ET
Canes

Skinner - Ryan - Di Giuseppe
Jooris - Necas - Saarela
McGinn - Poturalski - Miller
Tolchinsky - Wallmark - Hoffman

Hanifin - Pesce
Bean - Wesley
Fleury - van Riemsdyk

Jeremy Smith gets the start, Alex Nedeljkovic swaps in midgame.


Sabres

Girgensons - ROR - Okposo
Pouliot - Reinhart - Moses
Griffith -Rodrigues - Pu
Smith - Ciscuolo - Bailey

Guhle - Ristolainen
McCabe - Fedun
Nelson - Goloubef

Lehner and Ullmark in net.

- BINGO!


I guess we'll see the regulars tomorrow oh well I'm excited about pu
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 18 @ 5:02 PM ET
Hey man I'm just saying you're the one that's telling me we have a championship defense I just said hold your horses and let's play Elite teams before we say that
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I watched them play a team that was in the super bowl 20 months ago, on the road and the bills frustrated them all day


2 headed backfield
running qb

big red zone wr
all pro TE

etc


they held them to 9 points on the road, while the panthers had the ball for 39 minutes


in carolina, they are talking about how good the bills D was, yet for some strange reason you cant swallow that pill
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Sep 18 @ 5:04 PM ET
I watched them play a team that was in the super bowl 20 months ago, on the road and the bills frustrated them all day


2 headed backfield
running qb

big red zone wr
all pro TE

etc


they held them to 9 points on the road, while the panthers had the ball for 39 minutes


in carolina, they are talking about how good the bills D was, yet for some strange reason you cant swallow that pill

- homiedclown


If Cam Newton was Cam Newton the bills defense wouldn't have been able to sack him let's be real now

That dude escapes and makes plays out of nothing he literally did not move and let the bills just take him down

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 18 @ 5:04 PM ET
Anyways let's talk hockey

Anybody have the lineups yet or did I miss that

- GERBE!!!75PTS

read the freaking blog
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 18 @ 5:05 PM ET
If Cam Newton was Cam Newton the bills defense wouldn't have been able to sack him let's be real now

That dude escapes and makes plays out of nothing he literally did not move and let the bills just take him down

- GERBE!!!75PTS

the d rattled him in the second half

something really good defenses do

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Sep 18 @ 5:12 PM ET
the d rattled him in the second half

something really good defenses do


- homiedclown


From the first quarter to end t he didn't look like Cam Newton .. you can tell me what the straight face that you would trade for him right now the Cam Newton we saw yesterday?

This dude right ?








Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 18 @ 5:13 PM ET
On the flip side, fewer minutes = more productive minutes. Risto at 22 and Bogo at 18 are going to be better and therefore more productive players imo
- jcragcrumple



more productive isn the same as more goals. You're far more likely to see an increase in goals with more ice time than less. all changing the time on ice will do is lessen how badly they get their poop pushed in defensively.

Genuine question, is there any d-man that scored 9 or more goals last year at 18 mins of ice time?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 18 @ 5:17 PM ET
I guess we'll see the regulars tomorrow oh well I'm excited about pu
- GERBE!!!75PTS


There are 7-9 regulars in there...
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