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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:05 PM ET
iPhone
- sbroads24


The UI is changed on Android too, I even won an iPhone before I even got to click on the blog!
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:12 PM ET
Positive vibes LandlordTom, ha love it

Conspiracy thetheoryr here: they're waiting on giving Jack his new contract and forcing him to play with Beniot Pouliot to keep his stats down to sign him long term on the cheap next year.

- washedup20

I'll see your conspiracy and raise you a trying to get Eichel to sign a cap friendly Stamkos deal because Johnny Tots is coming to town next year. Get some.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:14 PM ET
The UI is changed on Android too, I even won an iPhone before I even got to click on the blog!
- Wetbandit1

I'm a millionaire in Amazon gift cards.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:17 PM ET
Indians are at 20 in a row. It's the free game on Yahoo tomorrow at noon. I might actually watch a baseball game before the World Series.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:19 PM ET
I'll see your conspiracy and raise you a trying to get Eichel to sign a cap friendly Stamkos deal because Johnny Tots is coming to town next year. Get some.
- Hatboro_Swords



I'd be more than ok with your scenario playing out
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Sep 12 @ 11:24 PM ET
The UI is changed on Android too, I even won an iPhone before I even got to click on the blog!
- Wetbandit1

$1000 amazon gift card
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:27 PM ET
George Parros is going to be the director of player safety. I want those Shanaban videos back with that Ivy League muzzy breaking down plays. Great pick
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 13 @ 12:56 AM ET
I'll see your conspiracy and raise you a trying to get Eichel to sign a cap friendly Stamkos deal because Johnny Tots is coming to town next year. Get some.
- Hatboro_Swords


If Jacks team wants $11.5 for him to sign now, I say "no way". Roll the dice and let him play out this year. If he scores 110 points and leads the Sabres into the playoffs like McDavid did, you can then pay him $12.5 X 8 years next July 1. He will have proven himself and he'll be worth it. Otherwise, there is absolutely no way he has earned the right to an $11.5 million X 8 year pay check. $10 million is more than fair market value based on what he has done and his potential for the next 8-years.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Sep 13 @ 6:15 AM ET
The UI is changed on Android too, I even won an iPhone before I even got to click on the blog!
- Wetbandit1



There is a link on the bottom of the page that takes you to the Desktop Site. On a side note, I did not get any ads with the new mobile version. I am using free adblocker on my phone.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 13 @ 8:22 AM ET
If Jacks team wants $11.5 for him to sign now, I say "no way". Roll the dice and let him play out this year. If he scores 110 points and leads the Sabres into the playoffs like McDavid did, you can then pay him $12.5 X 8 years next July 1. He will have proven himself and he'll be worth it. Otherwise, there is absolutely no way he has earned the right to an $11.5 million X 8 year pay check. $10 million is more than fair market value based on what he has done and his potential for the next 8-years.
- SabreWest


I like the thought process here.
Future potential, an estimate, must be based in some part on past production with a correlation to other samples which had the same production, skill set and other attributes.
Jack simply hasn't yet shown that he is the same caliber as McDavid, and I would also say that Matthews has shown more and therefore his ceiling should be projected to be higher as well. As it stands now.
Jack needs this season to prove what he is.
At a PPG, I'm thinking $10 is fair. North of 85 pts, and he gets paid north of $10.
Only thing in your example is at 110 pts like McDavid...then he gets McDavid's $12.5 as well.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 13 @ 8:24 AM ET
Back from Brooklyn, started that construction company. Let's pretty up this town.



https://www.facebook.com/Monadcontracting/?fref=ts

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 13 @ 8:36 AM ET
I like the thought process here.
Future potential, an estimate, must be based in some part on past production with a correlation to other samples which had the same production, skill set and other attributes.
Jack simply hasn't yet shown that he is the same caliber as McDavid, and I would also say that Matthews has shown more and therefore his ceiling should be projected to be higher as well. As it stands now.
Jack needs this season to prove what he is.
At a PPG, I'm thinking $10 is fair. North of 85 pts, and he gets paid north of $10.
Only thing in your example is at 110 pts like McDavid...then he gets McDavid's $12.5 as well.

- IonSabres

it's tough


you look at the Myers deal, or the Bogo deal
based on improvement that never happens



then you look at Scheifele's deal. I thought it was a head scratcher at the time, now it looks like a steal


perfect world, give Jack a 3 year bridge deal at 9 mil per, then the 8 year monster contract that ensures he is a sabre for life, not just a sabre in his 20's

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 13 @ 8:38 AM ET
side note


stamkos 8.5 per
callahan 5.8 per
palat 5.3 per
tyler johnson 5 per



kucherov 4.76 per
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 13 @ 8:47 AM ET
side note


stamkos 8.5 per
callahan 5.8 per
palat 5.3 per
tyler johnson 5 per



kucherov 4.76 per

- homiedclown


Yzerman is going to be tested with Kucherovs next contract. He probably uses that Detroit 02' team as an example of financial sacrifice for the better team. I don't think it will work on him though.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 13 @ 8:51 AM ET
Yzerman is going to be tested with Kucherovs next contract. He probably uses that Detroit 02' team as an example of financial sacrifice for the better team. I don't think it will work on him though.
- washedup20

nope, Kuch took one for the team with the bridge

he needs to be paid when the bridge is up

maybe they can buy out the last year of callahan to find the money
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 13 @ 8:57 AM ET
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm super excited that training camp starts this week.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 13 @ 9:03 AM ET
Back from Brooklyn, started that construction company. Let's pretty up this town.



https://www.facebook.com/Monadcontracting/?fref=ts

- washedup20

I think we can recommend someone if you need concrete work done.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 13 @ 9:10 AM ET
I think we can recommend someone if you need concrete work done.

- LandlordTom



Haha I was waiting for that! Everyone likes poetry with their concrete
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Sep 13 @ 9:29 AM ET
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm super excited that training camp starts this week.
- HonkFortheGoose

I'll let you know after Sunday's outcome. Fasten your seatbelts Bills fans.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 13 @ 10:05 AM ET
I'll let you know after Sunday's outcome. Fasten your seatbelts Bills fans.
- Hatboro_Swords


I generally like what the team has done, even with a head scratch or two.
I really like McDermit (sp?) and think the long term health of the team is in good shape.
It's the short term that will test us as I don't see them winning more than 4 games this year....which would be perfect and position us decently to find a stud QB in the draft.
So, in short...TANK ON BABY!
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