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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Building the 2017-18 Buffalo Sabres roster--D, Zach Bogosian
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 11 @ 4:22 PM ET
In a year or two, Eichel O'Reilly, Mittelstadt, Pu and asplund will be competing for four center spots which will make Reinhart expendable in exchange for a d man. Idk who you could get but Risto, McCabe, Guhle and a new guy will make a solid top 4. We're gonna be center heavy with a defense by committee approach like Pittsburgh
- jcragcrumple


Don't write off Scandella.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:25 PM ET
Don't write off Scandella.
- Wetbandit1



Not at all, but I think he'll be second pair or 3rd even in the right situation. If we could move Bogo, the Sabres could spend 3-4.5 per d man and roll 3 solid pairs. I really think Mittelstadt is gonna be the second line center sooner rather than later, and oreilly is gonna have to adjust to 3rd line cmtet duty or move to wing. By the end of his contract he either won't be a full time cemter, or he will be traded imo
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Sep 11 @ 4:28 PM ET
Don't write off Scandella.
- Wetbandit1

He cant play 500 minutes a night therefor he sucks.

Everyone on buffalo sucks at everything. We will never be good.

Woe is me, I am so sad. Buffalo sports will never be relevant again.

Crying.

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 11 @ 4:34 PM ET
He cant play 500 minutes a night therefor he sucks.

Everyone on buffalo sucks at everything. We will never be good.

Woe is me, I am so sad. Buffalo sports will never be relevant again.

Crying.

- ImThatGuy



did anyone actually say that?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:35 PM ET
Winter Garden and Clermont got messed up pretty good
- Stripes77



???
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
did anyone actually say that?
- Sabresfan-365


only the second sentence.

The rest is just an attitude.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
only the second sentence.

The rest is just an attitude.

- Der Kaiser



i brought the risto thing up as a solution to being good. therefore i believe this can and will be good.

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
i agree its been much smoother, im saying its probably not fair to either player to compare them.

most of hedmans regular and advanced stats were in the top 4 range by the end of year two. Risto's are all over the place.

- Sabresfan-365


Here's something that I think could be interesting to do, if it's possible. I'm not into the whole advanced stats thing, but I think it could be a useful tool in Risto's case if you can break it down a quarter of the season at a time. So basically, 20 game chunks.

I'd be willing to bet that the numbers for the 1st and 2nd quarters would be better than the 3rd and 4th because that's when you can clearly see his play start to suffer, even as a fan without looking at the stats.

I could be completely off base, but I happen to remember someone posting his stats before the halfway point once, and they weren't bad. Especially not horribly bad like they were at the end of the season.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 11 @ 4:46 PM ET
He cant play 500 minutes a night therefor he sucks.

Everyone on buffalo sucks at everything. We will never be good.

Woe is me, I am so sad. Buffalo sports will never be relevant again.

Crying.

- ImThatGuy



The defense is better than the media gives credit for, but the bottom 6 has 4 NHL players (22, 28, 29 and whatever Pouliot is). Moulson is a replacement level player. Unless one of the kids can take the 2LW spot, we're a player short in the top 6. Next year this is a playoff team, but this year we're bubble
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 11 @ 5:00 PM ET
The defense is better than the media gives credit for, but the bottom 6 has 4 NHL players (22, 28, 29 and whatever Pouliot is). Moulson is a replacement level player. Unless one of the kids can take the 2LW spot, we're a player short in the top 6. Next year this is a playoff team, but this year we're bubble
- jcragcrumple


Agreed. I think we are an 85 - 88 point team. Will fall short by 7 - 10 points. If Pouliot is on our second line and Gorges/Delo are anywhere near the ice, then we aren't there.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 11 @ 5:04 PM ET
Here's something that I think could be interesting to do, if it's possible. I'm not into the whole advanced stats thing, but I think it could be a useful tool in Risto's case if you can break it down a quarter of the season at a time. So basically, 20 game chunks.

I'd be willing to bet that the numbers for the 1st and 2nd quarters would be better than the 3rd and 4th because that's when you can clearly see his play start to suffer, even as a fan without looking at the stats.

I could be completely off base, but I happen to remember someone posting his stats before the halfway point once, and they weren't bad. Especially not horribly bad like they were at the end of the season.

- HonkFortheGoose




First 22 games last year . CF% 44.7

next 26 games: CF% 42.1

for some reason the site doesnt give out the final third of games (only gives a few of them) but his possession numbers remained about the same.

The chart that shows the fall off is the sabres as a whole.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 11 @ 5:47 PM ET
The defense is better than the media gives credit for, but the bottom 6 has 4 NHL players (22, 28, 29 and whatever Pouliot is). Moulson is a replacement level player. Unless one of the kids can take the 2LW spot, we're a player short in the top 6. Next year this is a playoff team, but this year we're bubble
- jcragcrumple



Touché
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 11 @ 5:48 PM ET
did anyone actually say that?
- Sabresfan-365

That guy just did
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
He cant play 500 minutes a night therefor he sucks.

Everyone on buffalo sucks at everything. We will never be good.

Woe is me, I am so sad. Buffalo sports will never be relevant again.

Crying.

- ImThatGuy


Lehner needs a therapist as well
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 11 @ 6:21 PM ET
All is well here at the clown house

got power back an hour or so ago and internet

watched ballers

house and animals are fine

it's a hot mess up here though, trees everywhere
fences everywhere
flooding everywhere

and red necks do not know how to drive

one of my favorite hangouts, outside bar is flooded




22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Sep 11 @ 6:38 PM ET
All is well here at the clown house

got power back an hour or so ago and internet

watched ballers

house and animals are fine

it's a hot mess up here though, trees everywhere
fences everywhere
flooding everywhere

and red necks do not know how to drive

one of my favorite hangouts, outside bar is flooded





- homiedclown


Good to hear...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 11 @ 7:00 PM ET
Agreed. I think we are an 85 - 88 point team. Will fall short by 7 - 10 points. If Pouliot is on our second line and Gorges/Delo are anywhere near the ice, then we aren't there.
- SabreWest



Yep yep yep, but Eichel and Kane could have fantastic years and take the Sabres to the playoffs. I think we're counting on too few players to have career years - which definitely could happen! I just think our depth is still too shallow to be considered a playoff lock. That said, we are better than the Bruins and I will eat my hat if we end up below them
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 11 @ 7:29 PM ET
guhle from pu
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 11 @ 7:31 PM ET
guhle from pu
- Der Kaiser



The players that should be standing out are so that's a good thing!

Also from the point on the PP
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 11 @ 7:41 PM ET
The players that should be standing out are so that's a good thing!

Also from the point on the PP

- Stripes77

Yeah, but I would really like to see.......
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Sep 11 @ 7:46 PM ET
Yep yep yep, but Eichel and Kane could have fantastic years and take the Sabres to the playoffs. I think we're counting on too few players to have career years - which definitely could happen! I just think our depth is still too shallow to be considered a playoff lock. That said, we are better than the Bruins and I will eat my hat if we end up below them
- jcragcrumple


Damn, I say the same thing but until it happens....

BUT, we are very much due for some good things to go our way. Good health, good play from the new vets, heads-up coaching, fire in the belly from the younguns and the unknowns, and consistent 'tending (the one thing this franchise always seems to be good at) will make this a surprise year.

The way we are right now, I like our bottom-six much better than last year, our pk looks to be improved on paper, and the only real hole up front is one spot on LW.
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Sep 11 @ 7:58 PM ET
Wow...Bogosian is now a strong skating, physical, puck moving defenseman. Then why any team can still have him for the proverbial bag of pucks?

Wonder when Sabre fans will realize it was not coaching or ill-fitted sywtems that sunk the Sabres last year, it was a general lack of talent
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 11 @ 8:02 PM ET
Damn, I say the same thing but until it happens....

BUT, we are very much due for some good things to go our way. Good health, good play from the new vets, heads-up coaching, fire in the belly from the younguns and the unknowns, and consistent 'tending (the one thing this franchise always seems to be good at) will make this a surprise year.

The way we are right now, I like our bottom-six much better than last year, our pk looks to be improved on paper, and the only real hole up front is one spot on LW.

- LandlordTom


Why is that? New pk coach? Or were one of Scandalla /Beaulieu on the pk on their respective teams?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 11 @ 8:04 PM ET
Wow...Bogosian is now a strong skating, physical, puck moving defenseman. Then why any team can still have him for the proverbial bag of pucks?

Wonder when Sabre fans will realize it was not coaching or ill-fitted sywtems that sunk the Sabres last year, it was a general lack of talent

- BernardShakey


Jesus Christ, the Leafs squeak into the playoffs for once and all of a sudden every single goddamn one of their fans think they know the secret.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 11 @ 8:09 PM ET
In a year or two, Eichel O'Reilly, Mittelstadt, Pu and asplund will be competing for four center spots which will make Reinhart expendable in exchange for a d man. Idk who you could get but Risto, McCabe, Guhle and a new guy will make a solid top 4. We're gonna be center heavy with a defense by committee approach like Pittsburgh
- jcragcrumple


This is a good post.
Would like to see some wingers push him out though.
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