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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 8 @ 4:31 PM ET

- Codes1087

lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 8 @ 4:32 PM ET
OK, Nucks fans....do you guys like this deal? I'm sure I'll be labelled a "troll" here, but my honest opinion is that this is way too high. Horvat was a 20-goal scorer last season, getting tonnes of quality minutes because he played for a team with very few offensive weapons

And he'll be making $5.5M for the next six years???

The Leafs just signed Connor Brown, another 20 goal scorer with arguably a higher offensive ceiling, to a two-year deal at $2.1M per. I get that you've gotta pay more to secure a player for the long-term, but I just don't see Horvat as a $5.5M guy

What is up?

- AxlRose91



Say WAY TOO HIGH then goes on rambling.
Stat readers say the strangest things.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 8 @ 4:32 PM ET
OK, Nucks fans....do you guys like this deal? I'm sure I'll be labelled a "troll" here, but my honest opinion is that this is way too high. Horvat was a 20-goal scorer last season, getting tonnes of quality minutes because he played for a team with very few offensive weapons

And he'll be making $5.5M for the next six years???

The Leafs just signed Connor Brown, another 20 goal scorer with arguably a higher offensive ceiling, to a two-year deal at $2.1M per. I get that you've gotta pay more to secure a player for the long-term, but I just don't see Horvat as a $5.5M guy

What is up?

- AxlRose91

lol dude...Connor Brown has had one decent NHL season....one. Always a chance it could be a one-off.

Horvat has shown a consistent 35% progression in points gained per season for three straight years. Horvat got Douin money which is right in line with 50+ point guys.

When Connor Brown does that...we'll talk bro.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 8 @ 4:34 PM ET
lol dude...Connor Brown has had one decent NHL season....one. Always a chance it could be a one-off.

Horvat has shown a consistent 35% progression in points gained per season for three straight years. Horvat got Douin money which is right in line with 50+ point guys.

When Connor Brown does that...we'll talk bro.

- LordHumungous



When Brown is a C then I'll listen lol
I'll predict our interloper goes mute & proves himself a troll.
Any takers?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 8 @ 4:41 PM ET
OK, Nucks fans....do you guys like this deal? I'm sure I'll be labelled a "troll" here, but my honest opinion is that this is way too high. Horvat was a 20-goal scorer last season, getting tonnes of quality minutes because he played for a team with very few offensive weapons

And he'll be making $5.5M for the next six years???

The Leafs just signed Connor Brown, another 20 goal scorer with arguably a higher offensive ceiling, to a two-year deal at $2.1M per. I get that you've gotta pay more to secure a player for the long-term, but I just don't see Horvat as a $5.5M guy

What is up?

- AxlRose91

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 8 @ 4:42 PM ET
OK, Nucks fans....do you guys like this deal? I'm sure I'll be labelled a "troll" here, but my honest opinion is that this is way too high. Horvat was a 20-goal scorer last season, getting tonnes of quality minutes because he played for a team with very few offensive weapons

And he'll be making $5.5M for the next six years???

The Leafs just signed Connor Brown, another 20 goal scorer with arguably a higher offensive ceiling, to a two-year deal at $2.1M per. I get that you've gotta pay more to secure a player for the long-term, but I just don't see Horvat as a $5.5M guy

What is up?

- AxlRose91


You missed your troll window when posters were calling for a bridge deal because Bo will only be a 3C in the future.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 8 @ 4:42 PM ET

- Marwood


So far so good
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 8 @ 4:43 PM ET
You missed your troll window when posters were calling for a bridge deal because Bo will only be a 3C in the future.
- Nuck4U



Who said he was a 3C?
Beaten out by whom?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 8 @ 4:44 PM ET
When Brown is a C then I'll listen lol
I'll predict our interloper goes mute & proves himself a troll.
Any takers?

- Nighthawk

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 8 @ 4:46 PM ET
OK, Nucks fans....do you guys like this deal? I'm sure I'll be labelled a "troll" here, but my honest opinion is that this is way too high. Horvat was a 20-goal scorer last season, getting tonnes of quality minutes because he played for a team with very few offensive weapons

And he'll be making $5.5M for the next six years???

The Leafs just signed Connor Brown, another 20 goal scorer with arguably a higher offensive ceiling, to a two-year deal at $2.1M per. I get that you've gotta pay more to secure a player for the long-term, but I just don't see Horvat as a $5.5M guy

What is up?

- AxlRose91

Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.29.2013

Sep 8 @ 4:47 PM ET
If Bo was too high wait till you see what the Leafs are gonna be paying Auston Matthews next july. North of 11 million a season for sure. Is he twice the player Bo is?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 8 @ 4:47 PM ET

- LordHumungous


free showers to get the stink out of them passenger cars....that's great public service
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 8 @ 4:47 PM ET
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Couldn't be happier spending the next 6 years here in Vancouver!!This is where my heart is and where I want to be. Let's get going

- VANTEL


what an idiot


low hockey IQ confirmed
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Sep 8 @ 4:50 PM ET
what an idiot


low hockey IQ confirmed

- Nucker101

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 8 @ 4:50 PM ET
what an idiot


low hockey IQ confirmed

- Nucker101

Not very PC, bro
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 8 @ 4:50 PM ET
Who said he was a 3C?
Beaten out by whom?

- Nighthawk


I don't want to tell you to go back and read all those days and several pages by posters but maybe they will surface and let you know themselves.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 8 @ 4:52 PM ET
what an idiot


low hockey IQ confirmed

- Nucker101

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 8 @ 4:55 PM ET

- LordHumungous


Where in the world do you think that is? South America? India? NA?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 8 @ 4:58 PM ET
I don't want to tell you to go back and read all those days and several pages by posters but maybe they will surface and let you know themselves.
- Nuck4U


Well u brought it up & I'm looking for clarity.
I don't recall any serious posts he was a 3C.
I do not include if he was on the Pens cuz he isn't.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 8 @ 4:58 PM ET
If Bo was too high wait till you see what the Leafs are gonna be paying Auston Matthews next july. North of 11 million a season for sure. Is he twice the player Bo is?
- Itsjustarash


Yes. Yes he is
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 8 @ 5:02 PM ET
If Bo was too high wait till you see what the Leafs are gonna be paying Auston Matthews next july. North of 11 million a season for sure. Is he twice the player Bo is?
- Itsjustarash



One is a true 1C & the other a very solid 2C.
Twice the money has nothing to do with anything.
If I were bulk shopping for groceries then yes.
This is about roles & values & the market nothing more.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 8 @ 5:06 PM ET
I don't want to tell you to go back and read all those days and several pages by posters but maybe they will surface and let you know themselves.
- Nuck4U

I don't recall any poster here calling Bo a third line center. I know DCT myself and a few others have said it would be nice to find two better centers because the talent level would be really high on this club.

Like a lot of things get twisted around on here by what they were suppose to mean.

I know for a fact that you have turned it into an art form of twisting what people say on here, and that is why so many posters find you extremely bloody annoying , myself included.

This group debates the talent level on here daily. Canucks are a long way from elite and should always try to find better players
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 8 @ 5:07 PM ET
Well u brought it up & I'm looking for clarity.
I don't recall any serious posts he was a 3C.
I do not include if he was on the Pens cuz he isn't.

- Nighthawk



I'll jog your memory on those posters logic.

Their arguments went like this: Bo was a 1C on this sh!tty Canuck team. A 2C on a better one and a 3C on a contender. He hasn't proved anything. Why pay him now. Give him a bridge not to regret paying him more then he's worth. Just because he's the only shiny object on a sh!tty team.

On and on it went. Those are some of the nibbles for you to look for if you go back to read.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 8 @ 5:07 PM ET
Decent signing.
Seem's fair given all the facets that we've gone over already.

Personally, I would have preferred a shorter bridge deal to see if he can continue to develop, but i understand the rationale for locking him up longer term.

Future Captain (next year?).
Will likely be a solid 2C going forward.
Hopefully coach Green plays him with some quality wingers and he continues to develop.

What do people see as similar C comparables?
Hopefully a Paul Stastny/Mikko Koivu.
My fear is that he plateau's at a Derek Stepan ceiling. Not the worst thing in the world...but i hope for more.
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