I almost feel embarrassed and awkward watching this. <-----(Nervous laugh with t-shirt pulled up over my mouth)
- As_I_See_It

if their inner monologue isn't "wtf am i doing here?!?!?" then they should be cut.

don't even explore trade options, just waive them.

I was mostly joking but I think OJ be better than MDZ in three years same as Pettersson will be better than Chaput
- VANTEL

Sure. But with this mentality, back in 14-15 we could say "I'm guessing Cole Cassels will be better than Brad Richardson in a few years"

and let's be honest, unless you have top end prospects, the point is moot.

who really cares if you have decent prospects that become decent nhl'ers unless you have the top end ones that can define a core and build a contender.
- RealityChecker

Let's just call him Theon from now on.
- As_I_See_It

That's Mrs. Greyjoy to you.

playing 1A/1B in your first season as a pro isn't out of the ordinary. They aren't going to just hand him the job. Him and Bachman were splitting time, Bachman went down for injury, Demko had the net for like X amount of games and had like a 10 win streak...
- Codes1087

I'm definitely not using the split 1A/1B situation as some sort of negative mark on him. I'm just saying that he had an up and down year and was streaky, which is 100% true. He's still a very promising young prospect, no one is denying that.

I feel like we're arguing over semantics here. The discussion was over whether any Canuck prospects are a lock to be future NHL players.

That's sort of the definition of streaky, no? He had multi-week stretches last season where his sv% was below .890% and stretches where it was above .920%.

He could be one of those guys who needs to be the starter to get into a groove, but the bottom line is that a .907% save percentage in his first AHL season makes him far from a 100% lock.
- Nucker101

i could be wrong as i don't pay all that much attention to the comets on a game in, game out basis, but i thought he played sh!tty the first month and then was solid with spectacular stretches the rest of the season.

the first month really screwed his numbers though as his sv% was below .900 as you mentioned.

Will they be showing the games on the telly or do I have to stream it?

I'm definitely not using the split 1A/1B situation as some sort of negative mark on him. I'm just saying that he had an up and down year and was streaky, which is 100% true. He's still a very promising young prospect, no one is denying that.

I feel like we're arguing over semantics here. The discussion was over whether any Canuck prospects are a lock to be future NHL players.
- Nucker101

I am strictly using his stats as measurement to whether or not I think he can be, or will be a lock to be a pro. I frankly have just as much faith in him becoming a NHL regular as I do Boeser. I might be the minority though.

That's Mrs. Greyjoy to you.
- bloatedmosquito

I can't pick 4 or 5 100% future NHL'ers from the Canucks prospect pool. Demko has at least played a pro season of hockey, but he was inconsistent and very streaky so he's far from a 100% lock at this point. Goldobin has played a couple of pro seasons, and offensively he's definitely NHL caliber, but again his weaknesses stop me short of calling him a 100% lock to be a legit NHL'er.

Your list has plenty of upside and potential, but no one is a 100% lock.
- Nucker101

Its definitely all potential at this juncture.
Still I took it one step further & made my predictions.
Based it on talent development & future needs.
Some can argue they are good or not but hard to say if they r not in the plans.
That neither means it's good or not but it is reasonable to assume that much.

Demko still needs 2yrs at least to make some noise.
OJ anytime soon IMO.
The forwards will take a little longer.

i could be wrong as i don't pay all that much attention to the comets on a game in, game out basis, but i thought he played sh!tty the first month and then was solid with spectacular stretches the rest of the season.

the first month really screwed his numbers though as his sv% was below .900 as you mentioned.
- RealityChecker

Here's his gamelog:

http://theahl.com/stats/player/6502

- LordHumungous

The only bust Jake's involved in is moves!

That's the swagger his club needs more of.

I am strictly using his stats as measurement to whether or not I think he can be, or will be a lock to be a pro. I frankly have just as much faith in him becoming a NHL regular as I do Boeser. I might be the minority though.
- Codes1087

Fair enough, nothing wrong with being high on certain prospects. It's the fans who just happen to be high on every decent prospect in the system and assume that they'll all make the NHL that end up being constantly disappointing and ripping their teams for not drafting well enough.

Will they be showing the games on the telly or do I have to stream it?
- SRam19

Sportsnet 650. I think it is a subscription. I am not entirely sure about Canucks TV, they have streamed it in previous years.

i could be wrong as i don't pay all that much attention to the comets on a game in, game out basis, but i thought he played sh!tty the first month and then was solid with spectacular stretches the rest of the season.

the first month really screwed his numbers though as his sv% was below .900 as you mentioned.
- RealityChecker

I tracked Utica most of the year & the roster was crap overall.
Demko felt his way through the early going & was mediocre.
As the season moved along TG found more consistency from his team.
A weak roster all in all but there were some good signs.
Demko as a rookie ended up on a high note.
Now he has to build on that & has some quality in front of him that we have never had before & he should excel but needs to standout still. He will be fine.

Here's his gamelog:

http://theahl.com/stats/player/6502
- Nucker101

i think he'll see a couple/few games this season as an injury replacement but he's still minimum 1 season away.

i'd like to see him wrestle the #1 spot at some point this season and run with it. if he does that, he should get a long look next camp as a backup. if not, i'd like to see him get a decent chunk of a season as a starter in the A before coming up.

i can see the media/fans getting impatient though. 2 more full seasons seems long!

as to prospects, claiming a player is a sure fire nhl'er doesn't really mean much anyway. i guarantee you that virtanen will have a decent career. however, it could be as a 4th line banger. guaranteed player but that would still be a huge disappointment.

Sure. But with this mentality, back in 14-15 we could say "I'm guessing Cole Cassels will be better than Brad Richardson in a few years"
- Nucker101

Your comparing OJ and Pettersson to Cole Cassels?

Sure. But with this mentality, back in 14-15 we could say "I'm guessing Cole Cassels will be better than Brad Richardson in a few years"
- Nucker101

You do realize you just compared Cassels who was drafted 85 th over all third round to two #5 pics

You do realize you just compared Cassels who was drafted 85 th over all third round to two #5 pics
- VANTEL

I remember when many of us on here thought Cassels was a legit prospect.

I remember when many of us on here thought Virt was the canuck's counter-punch to the oiler's McDavid.

I remember when many of us on here thought Cassels was a legit prospect.

I remember when many of us on here thought Virt was the canuck's counter-punch to the oiler's McDavid.





- bloatedmosquito

I think you need to wait and see how Virt plays this year. He discovered last year the NHL is not about blow booze and hookers

i think he'll see a couple/few games this season as an injury replacement but he's still minimum 1 season away.

i'd like to see him wrestle the #1 spot at some point this season and run with it. if he does that, he should get a long look next camp as a backup. if not, i'd like to see him get a decent chunk of a season as a starter in the A before coming up.

i can see the media/fans getting impatient though. 2 more full seasons seems long!

as to prospects, claiming a player is a sure fire nhl'er doesn't really mean much anyway. i guarantee you that virtanen will have a decent career. however, it could be as a 4th line banger. guaranteed player but that would still be a huge disappointment.
- RealityChecker

I believe Demko will be the starter all season in Utica.
That will continue on his development curve.
As for media/fan impatience who cares if they know nothing.
As for JV at this point I can see him as a very good 3rd liner.
If as good as i project him & other prospects on the top 6 pan out well it increases our depth & that's fine by me. Other drafts will garner us more talent & not everyone has to be elite just a few need to be. Depth speed & skill top down is what it is & idc who that will be or where they were picked. Not hinging anything on draft position but everything on quality. D scoring is my big issue.

I think you need to wait and see how Virt plays this year. He discovered last year the NHL is not about blow booze and hookers
- VANTEL

Very true, but no matter how well Virt does he is not in the same league as McDavid. I'm just laughing at that part of the equation. Even Sportsnet and TSN played up that angle.

In hindsight, it's so ridiculous.

I remember when many of us on here thought Cassels was a legit prospect.

I remember when many of us on here thought Virt was the canuck's counter-punch to the oiler's McDavid.





- bloatedmosquito

Kid is 21. Imagine have a million handed to you. he's still got a legit shot. No one ever thought he was a counter punch to McDavid, that's just ig'nant

I remember when many of us on here thought Cassels was a legit prospect.

I remember when many of us on here thought Virt was the canuck's counter-punch to the oiler's McDavid.





- bloatedmosquito

Legit prospect meaning 3/4th liner yes.
Prospects r just that & nobody thought Cassels was special.
Later round picks r always hit n miss & more often just a dart.

I like to think Bertuzzi said it best on JV it takes time.

Very true, but no matter how well Virt does he is not in the same league as McDavid. I'm just laughing at that part of the equation. Even Sportsnet and TSN played up that angle.

In hindsight, it's so ridiculous.
- bloatedmosquito

Reminds me of Michael J Fox line in American President ."People will drink the sand if there is no water" Canucks Gillis prospect pool