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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 4 @ 4:41 PM ET
It's hard to really know when prospects are ready. Why camps, call ups and end of season try outs really tell the story.

I remember you seeing OJ play and saying he's ready for the NHL. But given who's coming to camp we won't know what role if any he earns. Projections and reality don't fit hand and glove. Surprises abound. Some players find a role on the roster right away or languish away for oppportunity. It's a fluid mixture.
Maybe one or none of those prospects mentioned above find a way. For example, EP could just as easily come into a role next season or stay in Sweden for 3 more years.

- Nuck4U

EP will be here at the end of his SHL season. Probably around 180. Take the summer and come to camp at 190.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 4 @ 4:42 PM ET
Best of the best $$$$$$$. I got no idea what im going to do this year. I wish Utica was in the same division as the Moose. Watching AAA hockey instead of the wheat kings doesnt excite me.
- manvanfan


Watching young players bring it every shift does.
canucks1986
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Sep 4 @ 4:44 PM ET
Benning said this morning we will not ask the twins to waive. (understandable )

Daniel " I can't foresee us playing anywhere else (this morning)

We will announce what the future of the Sedins are in a few weeks (Benning this morning)

Daniel we really enjoy helping the youth here (this morning)

- VANTEL


Sounds like extension to me
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 4:47 PM ET
Sounds like extension to me
- canucks1986


Yup I see a two year deal happening
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 4 @ 4:51 PM ET
EP will be here at the end of his SHL season. Probably around 180. Take the summer and come to camp at 190.
- manvanfan


Agree it's been on my prediction list. Like Guadette as well.

There is an accumulation of wingers but the true turnaround for Canucks won't be realized until their new centers are brought in.

The jury is out if EP will play center. His talent can't be denied. Depending on Canucks 2018 1st rounder we will see which direction they drive EP into.

The wingers will be culled over the internal competition set up. But prospect Center development will define that the rebuild has matured. Bo is part of that picture starting this season.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 4 @ 4:52 PM ET
fickle fanbase that will complain regardless
- CanuckDon

Ive started flagging all whiners. Including myself
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 4 @ 4:54 PM ET
Watching young players bring it every shift does.
- VanHockeyGuy

Except past the first line on each team will probably never make it past AAA hockey.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 4 @ 4:57 PM ET
Agree it's been on my prediction list. Like Guadette as well.

There is an accumulation of wingers but the true turnaround for Canucks won't be realized until their new centers are brought in.

The jury is out if EP will play center. His talent can't be denied. Depending on Canucks 2018 1st rounder we will see which direction they drive EP into.

The wingers will be culled over the internal competition set up. But prospect Center development will define that the rebuild has matured. Bo is part of that picture starting this season.

- Nuck4U

Van has lots of potential wingers, no stud ones though. Or Stud D.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 4 @ 5:01 PM ET
Yup I see a two year deal happening
- VANTEL


Let's see how the fan base welcomes that, along with the top minutes.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 5:01 PM ET
Yup I see a two year deal happening
- VANTEL

What's going on?
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Sep 4 @ 5:02 PM ET
I will be honest , I said last year if they were extended I would stop watching until they are gone. I am now rethinking if I should move it up a year and just follow the Comets this year.
- VANTEL

every year I say I will stop watching this BS bettman nhl where the rules keep changing from shift to shift and the refs havnt got a clue and the command center cant tell what offside or goalie interference is, and player safety is so facked up but I keep watching
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 5:18 PM ET
every year I say I will stop watching this BS bettman nhl where the rules keep changing from shift to shift and the refs havnt got a clue and the command center cant tell what offside or goalie interference is, and player safety is so facked up but I keep watching
- Bettmanhatesus


The NHL is exciting , the cycle game isn't
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 4 @ 5:22 PM ET
Then there are the idiot like me who continue to punish ourselves for all 82 games.
- thundachunk


Same here No fair weather fan here.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 4 @ 5:28 PM ET
12 opening night forward spots available.
Hank
Dank
Eriksson
Sutter
Gagner
Dorsett
Vanek
Baertschi
Granlund
Horvat
10 spots that will most likely be taken. Assuming all are healthy!
Boeser
Burmy
Gaunce
Goldobin
Rodin
Boucher
Chaput
Megna

Boeser and Goldobin dont need waivers. Burmy, Rodin, chaput, megna would probably clear waivers. So spots 11 and 12 go to Boucher and Gaunce.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 4 @ 5:31 PM ET
I don't think they're will be too much rushing - guys like Demko, OJ, Brisebois, Chatfield are still 2-3 years.
Pettersson needs at least a year overseas, then possibly another in Utica.
Dahlen & Gaudette could be ready next year for sheltered minutes.
Goldobin, Virtanen, McEwen = may have another year in the A, with a few possible callups.
Guys like Gadjovich, Lockwood, Lind, Rathbone = 2-3 years away as well.

This is a slow, proper way to develop, while dipsh*ts like Sutter, Gagne, Edler, Sedins, MDZ, Vanek, plug the spots for the next few years.

- Brooks_Light


Exactly. ...and the vet plugs will eventually welcome being offloaded I think after the Sedins retire. Picks are coming, prospects are growing.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Sep 4 @ 5:33 PM ET
Are we going to do another hockey pool this year?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 5:35 PM ET
Let's see how the fan base welcomes that, along with the top minutes.
- VanHockeyGuy

I look forward to the day when they draft and develop someone good enough to take those minutes away from them. To date only Horvat has shown he's capable of doing that and he can't do it alone.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 5:36 PM ET
Are we going to do another hockey pool this year?
- Retinalz

Yes....Scooby sent out an invite through Yahoo mail. That's where I got mine?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Sep 4 @ 5:39 PM ET
Van has lots of potential wingers, no stud ones though. Or Stud D.
- manvanfan


At this point no studs period. But lotto luck will hamper that. Though there are lots of gamers. The culling of wingers will produce some pieces to help the new center core.

As for D well it's more murky. Tree's status adds to it. OJ development too. Then past that even more question marks. The 2018 draft could define it better.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 4 @ 5:40 PM ET
Sounds like extension to me
- canucks1986


I'll be really be disappointed. I'd rather they let them walk and take a shot at signing Stasney. He'd be easier to move as a single later in his contract and would be a decnet stop gap down the middle. They'd miss most likely on that... but signing the Sedins would mean they have no confidence in their drafting/trading at all. After that,,,, what reason is there to stick with this management?

We'll see. I hope they just come out and announce that talks won't happen during the season in an attempt to keep the distractions down. Of course signing them would also achieve that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 4 @ 5:45 PM ET
EP will be here at the end of his SHL season. Probably around 180. Take the summer and come to camp at 190.
- manvanfan


A 25 to 30 pound gain isnt likely to happen even in 3 years let alone 1. I'm thinking more like 10 to 15 pounds. If he's 175 at camp next year... it will be a good sign... there's been debate if he was even 160 leading up to the draft...
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 5:46 PM ET
I'll be really be disappointed. I'd rather they let them walk and take a shot at signing Stasney. He'd be easier to move as a single later in his contract and would be a decnet stop gap down the middle. They'd miss most likely on that... but signing the Sedins would mean they have no confidence in their drafting/trading at all. After that,,,, what reason is there to stick with this management?

We'll see. I hope they just come out and announce that talks won't happen during the season in an attempt to keep the distractions down. Of course signing them would also achieve that.

- boonerbuck

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 4 @ 5:49 PM ET
A 25 to 30 pound gain isnt likely to happen even in 3 years let alone 1. I'm thinking more like 10 to 15 pounds. If he's 175 at camp next year... it will be a good sign... there's been debate if he was even 160 leading up to the draft...
- boonerbuck

Eat well. Train hard.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 4 @ 5:51 PM ET
Eat well. Train hard.
- manvanfan


(frank) that... party hard and leave an ugly corpse...
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 5:51 PM ET
Eat well. Train hard. Take steroids
- manvanfan

Fixed that for gain you're looking for
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