who listens to radio period?

and how valuable could radio advertising be considering the people you want to target..... aren't listening to radio!!!!
- RealityChecker

Old people??
Let's ask the resident demographic...Vantel, thoughts?

Doesn't Bo become a flight risk if the team shows zero promise after his two year bridge is up?
- LordHumungous

That'd be a bigger concern if it's a 3 year bridge, I believe he becomes UFA eligible 4 years from now.

A 3-4 year contract would be by far the worst case scenario.


I know some people find it funny that we're acting like he's our McJesus/Eichel/Matthews, but that's what happens when the franchise has sucked at drafting/developing talent for years and has had poopty lottery luck.

I do think he has more upside than 3LC on a contending team, I see him as an offensive minded powerfoward 2LC.

Old people??
Let's ask the resident demographic...Vantel, thoughts?
- dbot

he's not here. quick somebody fax him. does he have his pager on him?

That'd be a bigger concern if it's a 3 year bridge, I believe he becomes UFA eligible 4 years from now.

A 3-4 year contract would be by far the worst case scenario.


I know some people find it funny that we're acting like he's our McJesus/Eichel/Matthews, but that's what happens when the franchise has sucked at drafting/developing talent for years and has had poopty lottery luck.

I do think he has more upside than 3LC on a contending team, I see him as an offensive minded powerfoward 2LC.
- Nucker101

I don't see any scenario where bo isn't a Canuck for a long time .

he's not here. quick somebody fax him. does he have his pager on him?
- RealityChecker

That'd be a bigger concern if it's a 3 year bridge, I believe he becomes UFA eligible 4 years from now.

A 3-4 year contract would be by far the worst case scenario.


I know some people find it funny that we're acting like he's our McJesus/Eichel/Matthews, but that's what happens when the franchise has sucked at drafting/developing talent for years and has had poopty lottery luck.

I do think he has more upside than 3LC on a contending team, I see him as an offensive minded powerfoward 2LC.
- Nucker101

bridge deal has to be 2 years. that will give 2 arbitration years to bo.

giving him 1 arbitration year is disastrous and i'll be chicken little if and when...

who listens to radio period?

and how valuable could radio advertising be considering the people you want to target..... aren't listening to radio!!!!
- RealityChecker

Lots of great radio out there people are just too lazy now to go out and look for it.

CKUA out of Edmonton is truly an outstanding (listener supported) radio station that one can access to both analog tuning and on the web. No advertiser influence for programming and they do have some great programs.

CBC still has some decent radio as well such as the Strombo Show and Randy Bachman's vinyl tap.

Just gotta get out there and listen bro...

That'd be a bigger concern if it's a 3 year bridge, I believe he becomes UFA eligible 4 years from now.

A 3-4 year contract would be by far the worst case scenario.


I know some people find it funny that we're acting like he's our McJesus/Eichel/Matthews, but that's what happens when the franchise has sucked at drafting/developing talent for years and has had poopty lottery luck.

I do think he has more upside than 3LC on a contending team, I see him as an offensive minded powerfoward 2LC.
- Nucker101

All valid points.

Horvat's best comparable Wennberg just signed 6 years $4.9 AAV

Lots of great radio out there people are just too lazy now to go out and look for it.

CKUA out of Edmonton is truly an outstanding (listener supported) radio station that one can access to both analog tuning and on the web. No advertiser influence for programming and they do have some great programs.

CBC still has some decent radio as well such as the Strombo Show and Randy Bachman's vinyl tap.

Just gotta get out there and listen bro...
- LordHumungous

my point being that while there might be great radio, there are fewer and fewer listeners.

just like network tv and newspapers are rapidly losing their customer base, radio is on the decline and that has nothing to do with quality.

(and the strombo show? yeah, i'm gonna pass on that dude.)

Horvat's best comparable Wennberg just signed 6 years $4.9 AAV
- WhiteLie

not a bridge deal and not a max length deal. well, that's one way of uniting people in hysteria.

he's not here. quick somebody fax him. does he have his pager on him?
- RealityChecker

he only responds to carrier pigeon

Horvat's best comparable Wennberg just signed 6 years $4.9 AAV
- WhiteLie

I'd be all over that. Hell, I'd be down to add a 7th or 8th year and make it 5.5M

my point being that while there might be great radio, there are fewer and fewer listeners.

just like network tv and newspapers are rapidly losing their customer base, radio is on the decline and that has nothing to do with quality.

(and the strombo show? yeah, i'm gonna pass on that dude.)
- RealityChecker

lol you'd be surprised some of the quality bands he has on there. Pretty eclectic mix of tunes too.

While I agree mainstream radio is in big trouble in many ways, stations like CKUA have survived by primarily satisfying their listener market and not succumbing to advertiser influences. Now are there enough good, young listeners to keep it going super long term? Hard to say but when they run their donation telethons and such they get massive support as they provide and cater to a certain crowd.

Check em out online at CKUA.com you may find a program you really like if you have an open-mind towards music and it's artistic impact.

Old people??
Let's ask the resident demographic...Vantel, thoughts?
- dbot

I am still trying to figure out my Motorola flip phone , who has time for the radio

not a bridge deal and not a max length deal. well, that's one way of uniting people in hysteria.
- RealityChecker

Reasonable cap hit too, if he continues to excel it could be great value

lol you'd be surprised some of the quality bands he has on there. Pretty eclectic mix of tunes too.

While I agree mainstream radio is in big trouble in many ways, stations like CKUA have survived by primarily satisfying their listener market and not succumbing to advertiser influences. Now are there enough good, young listeners to keep it going super long term? Hard to say but when they run their donation telethons and such they get massive support as they provide and cater to a certain crowd.

Check em out online at CKUA.com you may find a program you really like if you have an open-mind towards music and it's artistic impact.
- LordHumungous

i think that's the issue in a nutshell.

time is finite and i don't listen to radio. i'll listen to radio shows aka podcasts. i'm sure that some of those shows would be/are great podcasts and i'll probably look into what's there.

but, i'm not listening to a radio station all day or all drive long. too many options that i've already got on my "to listen to" list.

just like news, i'd rather go to a news aggregation website and pick and choose what i want to read. i don't need to go to a single newspaper and read everything they have.

I'd be all over that. Hell, I'd be down to add a 7th or 8th year and make it 5.5M
- Nucker101

6 x 4.9 for Wennberg.

One of the closer comparables to Horvat

Reasonable cap hit too, if he continues to excel it could be great value
- WhiteLie

absolutely.

i've had the thought before that these young players should be doing 4-6 year contracts. that would maximize the number of contracts they receive through their careers maximizing the over all dollar value.

the player gives up some money up front banking on the cap and his value going up long term.

Old people??
Let's ask the resident demographic...Vantel, thoughts?
- dbot

canucks sign Vanek..

1 year, 2 million

Canucks have 6 million in cap space to get Bo signed.

canucks sign Vanek..

1 year, 2 million
- Codes1087

1 year deal. me likey!

absolutely.

i've had the thought before that these young players should be doing 4-6 year contracts. that would maximize the number of contracts they receive through their careers maximizing the over all dollar value.

the player gives up some money up front banking on the cap and his value going up long term.
- RealityChecker

protects teams as well from players not performing after a long term deal is signed.
R. Dipietro comes to mind....15 year contract. 45 min or so into the contract and he's injured and never played. 2013 nyi buys out the last 8 years of his contract.