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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:06 PM ET
what are we showcasing though? China has a team in the KHL right now.
- Codes1087

which is strange. You'd think there wouldnt be any demand for hockey in china. Perhaps hockey has some interest along the china / russia border where theres lots of ice.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:06 PM ET
[quote=Nucker101]
don't need to rehash an old Benning argument is my point.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:08 PM ET
Who do you have lower than the Canucks?
- Nucker101

Colorado, Jersey and Vegas for sure....after that, it could be the Canucks or Detroit.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 31 @ 5:08 PM ET
Regardless, IMO it's huge distraction and does little for the canuck brand specifically.
- bloatedmosquito


Your missing the point. Better schedule = less injuries, less injuries= playoffs, playoffs = pom pom's
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:09 PM ET
Thanks for the confirmation Carol, although you might find some here who would argue the Sedins are not NHLers.
- belcherbd


Some of the same guys who criticize them are the same guys who defend poopty players
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:10 PM ET
[quote=CanuckDon]
Benning fact*
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 31 @ 5:11 PM ET
[quote=CanuckDon]

Horvat, Granlund, Stecher and Boeser our best players....

I can't wait to see you have to explain that next year.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Aug 31 @ 5:14 PM ET
Prediction time.

Winner of the Pacific: Vancouver.
Winner of the Presidents Trophy: Vancouver.
Winner of the Stanley Cup: Canucks lose in 7 (who doesn't like a good riot).

Calder: Cassels.
Heart: Sutter.
Rocket Richard: Gaunce.
Vezina: Split between Nils/Mark
Norris: Tanev.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:14 PM ET
which is strange. You'd think there wouldnt be any demand for hockey in china. Perhaps hockey has some interest along the china / russia border where theres lots of ice.
- SMBDragon


They don't give a poop about hockey/football, the NBA does well in China though.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:16 PM ET
which is strange. You'd think there wouldnt be any demand for hockey in china. Perhaps hockey has some interest along the china / russia border where theres lots of ice.
- SMBDragon


If you want to showcase the NHL, send McDavid, send Crosby, Send Matthews, send a team with a talented young player that will showcase what the NHL has to offer. Don't send one of the worst teams in the west lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:17 PM ET
Prediction time.

Winner of the Pacific: Vancouver.
Winner of the Presidents Trophy: Vancouver.
Winner of the Stanley Cup: Canucks lose in 7 (who doesn't like a good riot).

Calder: Cassels.
Heart: Sutter.
Rocket Richard: Gaunce.
Vezina: Split between Nils/Mark
Norris: Tanev.

- Whiskey-Tango



Biggest balls: Sutter
Balls that never get used: Sutter
Most fights lost: Dorsett
Most PIM: Henrik
Jack Adams: WD when he steps in for the first coach fired and leads his team to the playoffs
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:17 PM ET
[quote=belcherbd]
who do you think our best players are? Sedin Sedin Eriksson? Also, I said "maybe" Boeser
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:19 PM ET
If you want to showcase the NHL, send McDavid, send Crosby, Send Matthews, send a team with a talented young player that will showcase what the NHL has to offer. Don't send one of the worst teams in the west lol
- Codes1087

The Canucks and Kings are being sent because half of our citizens are Asian not because they are good teams. I agree with you though
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:21 PM ET
The Canucks and Kings are being sent because half of our citizens are Asian not because they are good teams. I agree with you though
- CanuckDon


I remember reading a few Canucks articles about Laurence and Linden and a few other Canucks Management, along with some former Canucks players going over to China and seeing that China actually has an interest in the NHL, and like you said, the Canucks specifically. Could be the Richmond connection (I can say without being racist), could be the fact that we had Richard Park a while back (Korean I know).
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:22 PM ET
what are we showcasing though? China has a team in the KHL right now.
- Codes1087


They are building a fanbase by acquiring NA hockey players with Chinese heritage to attract more to their fanbase and get ready for the 2022 Olympics. 1 former teammate of mine is on the KHL squad; a few others I've played with/against are signed with them and playing for their minor league team
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:26 PM ET
If you want to showcase the NHL, send McDavid, send Crosby, Send Matthews, send a team with a talented young player that will showcase what the NHL has to offer. Don't send one of the worst teams in the west lol
- Codes1087

actually it does make some sense to send vancouver. Remember Van has a huge population of asian people whereas edmonton or pittsburg wont. Their Relatives in china may support the team since we have no NBA.

but player wise Id have to agree with you. Not that a newbie would know the difference between McDavid and skille though
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 31 @ 5:27 PM ET
Yup.
A veteran heavy team heading to China to promote the NHL.

I'm pretty sure that promoting the NHL with the current Canuck roster is the epitome of an oxymoron.

- Marwood

The promoting of the NHL will be the responsibility of the LA Kings, the Canucks will play the part of the Washington Generals.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
Your missing the point. Better schedule = less injuries, less injuries= playoffs, playoffs = pom pom's

- belcherbd

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
Discussions will rage on how bad the Canucks will be this season and next. Codes stated it well that with D&D the Sedins will get replaced in about 2/3 years.

Any improvements now won't turn the team into a contender but any means. Just part of the process on a rebuild. Thus, the challenge for TG is can he raise the level of players he's got now to produce better then the Sedins.

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
The Canucks and Kings are being sent because half of our citizens are Asian not because they are good teams. I agree with you though
- CanuckDon

do you really think that the majority of the people who will go to the exhibition games will really care about the quality of the play? let alone, be knowledgeable enough to recognize good play or star players?

this is a big league sports spectacle that features recognizable city names for the potential "fans."

showcasing the play on the ice is secondary to just showcasing the league from the media coverage of the "spectacle."
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 31 @ 5:30 PM ET
Prediction time.

Winner of the Pacific: Vancouver.
Winner of the Presidents Trophy: Vancouver.
Winner of the Stanley Cup: Canucks lose in 7 (who doesn't like a good riot).

Calder: Cassels.
Heart: Sutter.
Rocket Richard: Gaunce.
Vezina: Split between Nils/Mark
Norris: Tanev.

- Whiskey-Tango

What about Subban's feelings?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 31 @ 5:35 PM ET
[quote=CanuckDon]

I know you said maybe Boeser but I might as well say maybe Goldobin for all that's worth.....before anyone jumps in, yes I believe Boeser will be better and is likely better now but 9 games or whatever it was don't mean much to me.

I have Horvat, Sedins, Eriksson, Tanev, Edler, Gagner, Baertschi, Sutter all better than Granlund, Stecher and Boeser.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:36 PM ET
Your missing the point. Better schedule = less injuries, less injuries= playoffs, playoffs = pom pom's

- belcherbd

Not one poster has predicted playoffs but carry on. The most optomistic poster has predicted a 20th place finish. You negative nancies are too much sometimes
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 31 @ 5:37 PM ET
do you really think that the majority of the people who will go to the exhibition games will really care about the quality of the play? let alone, be knowledgeable enough to recognize good play or star players?

this is a big league sports spectacle that features recognizable city names for the potential "fans."

showcasing the play on the ice is secondary to just showcasing the league from the media coverage of the "spectacle."

- RealityChecker


No, I fully agree with you. The fans will know LA/ Van and that's what matters
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 31 @ 5:41 PM ET
Not one poster has predicted playoffs but carry on. The most optomistic poster has predicted a 20th place finish. You negative nancies are too much sometimes
- CanuckDon


Don't really give a poop about the team's performance. Only things that matter:

1) Continuing a proper rebuild

2) Cap/asset management

3) Prospect/young roster player development


Yes, we complain about the poop roster, but that's far from the biggest complaint. And no Benning/Linden supporter can defend some of the (frank) ups they've made in those 3 areas.
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