It almost always does if done properly for sure. Newer digital recordings can be killer too but it requires a meticulous amount of effort to get them right. Most record companies now are too lazy and cheap to get the product out there with proper quality nor do they want to spend the time mastering it correctly.
- LordHumungous

the reason for it is the material used. Imperfect reproducing of the audio is better sounding to human ears. Silicon reproduces the audio too well including all oddities in the sound and odd order harmonics, which is harsher on the ear. Tubes let through even order harmonics only producing a sound that is pleasant. Its why Tube guitar amps like Marshall sound awesome versus a transistor based amp.

With recording its the old reel tape that makes the warm sound. The flaw in it is that it deteriorates over time. Certainly prefer mastering onto tape but the current ease and convenience with digital is hard to pass up

yeah bro, that's some good advice to avoid the nonsense. either that or go complain to the gym staff amirite?
- RealityChecker

Two words "Suter, Parise"



52.6 on 12 players to start next year.
- A_SteamingLombardi

championship contending windows in the cap era are very tight!

For sure tubes bring something to the equation that transistors just can't. I tried for years to run an all-solid state transistor based system and eventually went back to putting a tube preamp back in the audio chain. I listen to a lot of vinyl still obviously and to me tubes are an absolute must for well-recorded vinyl.
- LordHumungous

NOTHING sounds like tubes do.

some nice classics on vinyl through that tube preamp

btw do you have any idea why Vinyl seems to sound the way it does?

Two words "Suter, Parise"



52.6 on 12 players to start next year.
- A_SteamingLombardi

the cap is going up. 15 million on your two highest guys is cheap for todays NHL. Also, your math is wrong, Koivu comes off as do a few others. I agree Parise isn't worth that money, but Suter certainly is.

the reason for it is the material used. Imperfect reproducing of the audio is better sounding to human ears. Silicon reproduces the audio too well including all oddities in the sound and odd order harmonics, which is harsher on the ear. Tubes let through even order harmonics only producing a sound that is pleasant. Its why Tube guitar amps like Marshall sound awesome versus a transistor based amp.

With recording its the old reel tape that makes the warm sound. The flaw in it is that it deteriorates over time. Certainly prefer mastering onto tape but the current ease and convenience with digital is hard to pass up
- SMBDragon

i'm guessing your amps go to 11 bro.

Once we sign Gaunce, we will too.
- SRam19

lol

the cap is going up. 15 million on your two highest guys is cheap for todays NHL. Also, your math is wrong, Koivu comes off as do a few others. I agree Parise isn't worth that money, but Suter certainly is.
- neem55

2018/19 12 players
Parise 7.5
Suter 7.5
Granlund 5.75
Nino 5.25
Ennis 4.6
Staal 3.5
Coyle 3.2
Eriksson 900K
Spurgen 5.187
Brodin 4.16
Dubnyk 4.33
Stalock 650K

52.527 and they'd have to sign Dumba

the reason for it is the material used. Imperfect reproducing of the audio is better sounding to human ears. Silicon reproduces the audio too well including all oddities in the sound and odd order harmonics, which is harsher on the ear. Tubes let through even order harmonics only producing a sound that is pleasant. Its why Tube guitar amps like Marshall sound awesome versus a transistor based amp.

With recording its the old reel tape that makes the warm sound. The flaw in it is that it deteriorates over time. Certainly prefer mastering onto tape but the current ease and convenience with digital is hard to pass up
- SMBDragon

Very true. Many companies cheap out with materials and it IS a key factor.

However there are all Solid State companies that can get 'real close' to reproducing the sound of tubes without the tubes…but get ready to re-mortgage your home for that gear lol. And agree there is nothing like a good tube guitar amp sound.

Digital is way better now but still pales to the best vinyl rigs out there.

NOTHING sounds like tubes do.

some nice classics on vinyl through that tube preamp

btw do you have any idea why Vinyl seems to sound the way it does?
- SMBDragon

Vinyl still sounds the best because they have not figured out a way to get past the lossy conversion process in digital fully. What I mean by that is digital to analog conversion or DAC's for short always have a lossy process in the chain no matter how well they are designed. There are always 1's and 0's lost in the digital conversion process 'back' to analog.

Vinyl is 'technically' pure analog so if the source tapes are pure and the pressing(s) and mastering to vinyl is solid there is no lossy conversion process in the chain and DAC to screw things up during playback. Now even the best vinyl will not eclipse the source tapes…but will come awful close if all is done properly in the mastering chain.

Vinyl is like the purest form of rib eye…digital if done poorly is like trying to turn ground beef back into steak with the conversion processes..if you get my meaning.

Very true. Many companies cheap out with materials and it IS a key factor.

However there are all Solid State companies that can get 'real close' to reproducing the sound of tubes without the tubes…but get ready to re-mortgage your home for that gear lol. And agree there is nothing like a good tube guitar amp sound.

Digital is way better now but still pales to the best vinyl rigs out there.
- LordHumungous

except close isnt quite there....unfortunately. Even sound modeling isnt quite that good either. Im sure you were referring to that.

Vinyl still sounds the best because they have not figured out a way to get past the lossy conversion process in digital fully. What I mean by that is digital to analog conversion or DAC's for short always have a lossy process in the chain no matter how well they are designed. There are always 1's and 0's lost in the digital conversion process 'back' to analog.

Vinyl is 'technically' pure analog so if the source tapes are pure and the pressing(s) and mastering to vinyl is solid there is no lossy conversion process in the chain and DAC to screw things up during playback. Now even the best vinyl will not eclipse the source tapes…but will come awful close if all is done properly in the mastering chain.

Vinyl is like the purest form of rib eye…digital if done poorly is like trying to turn ground beef back into steak with the conversion processes..if you get my meaning.
- LordHumungous

have you heard Pono player yet? Xstream that Niel Young is pushing? I guess this is more about high resolution than anything, seems like a good thing as far as being able to stream music at a decent quality though.

except close isnt quite there....unfortunately. Even sound modeling isnt quite that good either. Im sure you were referring to that.
- SMBDragon

my girlfriend does some sound modeling. jealous?

my girlfriend does some sound modeling. jealous?
- RealityChecker

Which one bro?

Which one bro?
- A_SteamingLombardi

what day is it, bro?

Vinyl still sounds the best because they have not figured out a way to get past the lossy conversion process in digital fully. What I mean by that is digital to analog conversion or DAC's for short always have a lossy process in the chain no matter how well they are designed. There are always 1's and 0's lost in the digital conversion process 'back' to analog.

Vinyl is 'technically' pure analog so if the source tapes are pure and the pressing(s) and mastering to vinyl is solid there is no lossy conversion process in the chain and DAC to screw things up during playback. Now even the best vinyl will not eclipse the source tapes…but will come awful close if all is done properly in the mastering chain.

Vinyl is like the purest form of rib eye…digital if done poorly is like trying to turn ground beef back into steak with the conversion processes..if you get my meaning.
- LordHumungous

Yes so by getting higher end audio gear you get gear made with top end DAC's so the lossy is much much less.

But My question was more like, considering an all analog setup thus no DACs, say cassette player, vinyl, reel etc many will pick vinyl as sounding more lively. So DACs out of the equation why do you think vinyl is more magical sounding?

I'll guess that it is actually the poorest grade of fidelity with a lower frequency spectrum and thus more pleasing to the ear.

what day is it, bro?
- RealityChecker

Not leg day.

Who are your top 3 Canucks you hope get traded this offseason/TDL?

me:
1) Eriksson. The term, the hit, the age. This is just bad.
2) Dorsett. Guy is a trainwreck on the ice, overpaid.
3) Edler. Great player, great Canuck but time to let him go.

I don't expect any moves until the TDL, but maybe JB pulls off something with LV where trading Edler becomes something that could happen sooner rather than later.

2018/19 12 players
Parise 7.5
Suter 7.5
Granlund 5.75
Nino 5.25
Ennis 4.6
Staal 3.5
Coyle 3.2
Eriksson 900K
Spurgen 5.187
Brodin 4.16
Dubnyk 4.33
Stalock 650K

52.527 and they'd have to sign Dumba
- A_SteamingLombardi

so they'll have roughly 20 million to sign Dumba and 10 other guys assuming they make no trades.

Not leg day.
- A_SteamingLombardi

it's finger day bro.

need strong fingers to type those complaint emails.

Who are your top 3 Canucks you hope get traded this offseason/TDL?

me:
1) Eriksson. The term, the hit, the age. This is just bad.
2) Dorsett. Guy is a trainwreck on the ice, overpaid.
3) Edler. Great player, great Canuck but time to let him go.

I don't expect any moves until the TDL, but maybe JB pulls off something with LV where trading Edler becomes something that could happen sooner rather than later.
- neem55

LE
Sutter
Edler

and Gaunce for McJebus

except close isnt quite there....unfortunately. Even sound modeling isnt quite that good either. Im sure you were referring to that.
- SMBDragon

Ya 'technically'. But there is some dedicated Solid State gear from companies such as Mark Levinson which MANY prefer over tubes. Mostly for convenience mind you but still it is impressive they can make SS gear sound that good.

have you heard Pono player yet? Xstream that Niel Young is pushing? I guess this is more about high resolution than anything, seems like a good thing as far as being able to stream music at a decent quality though.
- neem55

Unfortunately have not had much experience with Pono yet but have heard some promising things.

LE
Sutter
Edler

and Gaunce for McJebus
- A_SteamingLombardi

I like me some gaunce, when exactly did he turn into the whipping boy?

I like me some gaunce, when exactly did he turn into the whipping boy?
- neem55

it's not what he did, it's what he didn't do.