Nice one Ek. Plant the seed and Leafs fans start to actually believe this bullpoop.

Austin "the tank" Matthews is a legend in the leafs mind. Matthews is a very solid player but not a legend. McDavid is a generational player. Matthews is a Toronto fabrication. Ask any GM who he would prefer. End of this silly debate.

He was the better player for the half season he played no doubt. Age difference doesn't matter. It's best season under the age of 25, and meeting rookie restrictions. They don't give bonus points for being younger. and they don't award it for half seasons.

Age aside, do you actually think he had a better season than Panarin? Judging on what each did over the full 82 game season?
- prock

Actually I do and so do many others.... the games played thing is just stupid. I get if he played like 20 games but he played 45 games and was over a point per game on a horrid team.

I bet Panarin feels good knowing the only reason he wins is because he played more games.
- Reveen.

If Crosby plays the full season this year, he finishes with close to 50 goals, and maybe 1 or 2 shy of 100 points. He'd take home the Hart trophy for sure.

You think McD feels good knowing the only reason he has a Hart is because he played more games?

Matthews has a better 1/4 stick-handle move at exactly 53 degree angle when facing the goalie from the left face-off circle at 14 mph, this alone will guarantee him an additional 7 goals in the next 10 years.

Win for Matthews.

lol you just went from top 7 to top 5.......
- nyislsbossy

I bet money he would be top seven but i think he will be top five. Completely different but good try. Idiot

Eklund: I Believe Matthews Will Rank Higher Than McDavid. Buzz@1
- Eklund

A world of no.

If Crosby plays the full season this year, he finishes with close to 50 goals, and maybe 1 or 2 shy of 100 points. He'd take home the Hart trophy for sure.

You think McD feels good knowing the only reason he has a Hart is because he played more games?
- prock

He only missed 7 games

Actually I do and so do many others.... the games played thing is just stupid. I get if he played like 20 games but he played 45 games and was over a point per game on a horrid team.
- Reveen.

it's half a season. something like 60% more points. Hard to argue with that.

Austin "the tank" Matthews is a legend in the leafs mind. Matthews is a very solid player but not a legend. McDavid is a generational player. Matthews is a Toronto fabrication. Ask any GM who he would prefer. End of this silly debate.
- habsp

Ohh no the leafs never tanked for matthews. Just ask any leaf fan. Dumb leaf fans.

He only missed 7 games
- Reveen.

again, if he wins the goal scoring race by almost 10 goals, and has roughly the same number of points, it's an easy win for Crosby. So yes, by your argument, he easily wins the Hart if he plays those 7 games.

But of course, you dodge the question.

Ohh no the leafs never tanked for matthews. Just ask any leaf fan. Dumb leaf fans.
- hanleyaj

You guys tried to tank for McDavid

Ohh no the leafs never tanked for matthews. Just ask any leaf fan. Dumb leaf fans.
- hanleyaj

Wasn't your entire organization crying when they "lost out" on getting McDavid and had to "settle" for Eichel? Gimme a break, sabres fans of all the fans shouldn't be chirping

Ohh no the leafs never tanked for matthews. Just ask any leaf fan. Dumb leaf fans.
- hanleyaj

clearly, buffalo fans are most butthurt about the leafs getting matthews.

Austin "the tank" Matthews is a legend in the leafs mind. Matthews is a very solid player but not a legend. McDavid is a generational player. Matthews is a Toronto fabrication. Ask any GM who he would prefer. End of this silly debate.
- habsp

Your post is both accurate (McDavid is better), and rediculous (Matthews is a "solid" player).

Matthews scored 40 goals as a 19 year old, playing C, with rookies as his wingers. Better than McDavid? No. A generational talent in his own right? Yes.

Nice one Ek. Plant the seed and Leafs fans start to actually believe this bullpoop.
- Larsson_fan

Middle of July , Ek needs his hits ,


That being said , i'll give Mcdavid the slight edge given Mathews has a better support cast .....

again, if he wins the goal scoring race by almost 10 goals, and has roughly the same number of points, it's an easy win for Crosby. So yes, by your argument, he easily wins the Hart if he plays those 7 games.

But of course, you dodge the question.
- prock

There is no question... you're just spewing random nonsense... nobody and I mean nobody takes you seriously

I highly suggest you a big ole steak knife and shove it straight up your Richard hole.

Ohh no the leafs never tanked for matthews. Just ask any leaf fan. Dumb leaf fans.
- hanleyaj

It's not the Leafs' fault that Buffalo can't even tank well.

You guys tried to tank for McDavid
- Reveen.

Yeah and sabres fan will all tell you we tanked and the world knew we were tanking. But everyone said the leafs never tanked they were losing with class.

He was the better player for the half season he played no doubt. Age difference doesn't matter. It's best season under the age of 25, and meeting rookie restrictions. They don't give bonus points for being younger. and they don't award it for half seasons.

Age aside, do you actually think he had a better season than Panarin? Judging on what each did over the full 82 game season?
- prock

Exactly. You can't give an award to someone based on what they might have done when someone else actually did it. Everyone assumes that McDavid would have put up great numbers all season had he played a full one. Who's to say he wouldn't have run into a long slump due to the grind of a full NHL season? We'll never know. We do know that Panarin had a great season.

Austin "the tank" Matthews is a legend in the leafs mind. Matthews is a very solid player but not a legend. McDavid is a generational player. Matthews is a Toronto fabrication. Ask any GM who he would prefer. End of this silly debate.
- habsp

There's a lot of Habs bias in this post.
I agree McDavid is better now but saying that Matthew can't be a legend, that's your bias coming out to play.

Yeah and sabres fan will all tell you we tanked and the world knew we were tanking. But everyone said the leafs never tanked they were losing with class.
- hanleyaj

That's Toronto media for you

and Matthews isn't? i mean i honestly don't know for either but auston seems a bit in love with himself.
- Fountain-San

Yeah, and he is pinging my gaydar.

I just don't care about that kind of stuff. It isn't the same as throwing locker room tantrums, wanting the coach and GM gone in your second year or taunting opposing teams fans when your own team is one of the worst in the league.

Never take a bet that has clauses.
- the_eye

What clause? Simply put he's either in the top 7 or not.

Nice one Ek. Plant the seed and Leafs fans start to actually believe this bullpoop.
- Larsson_fan

You can tell by the responses from Leafs fans that we are all definitely believing it Bubba.