If they were worried about looking foolish I don't think they would've stuck him in the AHL for almost a full year.
- Girouxsalem90

I think he'll be in the top 6, but I'd prefer Gudas on the top pair:

Provorov-Gudas
AMac-Hagg
Morin-Ghost
Manning

Sanheim could come up and earn a top 6 spot during the season. If so, they can move Manning and make AMac the 7th man.

Well yeah that was his number in St Louis and Calgary so I think it just put that by default.

Me thinks he goes back to #30 when he was with Ottawa
- Streit2ThePoint

Neuvirth goes back to #34?

EDIT: LATE AF

Fair enough. Honestly, after Clarke and Poulin there is such a huge drop off, it's almost not worth ranking anyone past them.
- BiggE

You should rank the best assistant captains (maybe save that for september)

Not saying you're wrong, but are Bunnaman, Hogberg, Salinitri, and Bernhardt reaaallllyyy projected to be decent players for the Flyers? I know not everyone is going to be a Lindblom, but tbh these guys don't seem like "hits" to me.

Asking for a friend.
- Giroux_Is_God

Bunnaman, Hogberg, Laczynzkdsdsiski......yes. I think they all look like real players. They're hits.

Salinitri, I think he needs a big year. His spot on the Phantoms 1 year from now is more tenuous due to the role he needs. He's someone that I'm unsure if he gets squeezed out, more than Twar, and whether he has NHL potential. Bernhardt can stay in Sweden 3 more years, so he's no worry. He didn't impress me as much as others (besides his shot), but he's raw and he has time before he comes over.

You should rank the best assistant captains (maybe save that for september)
- YuenglingJagr

That's way too much homework, but here are some that always, IMO, did a great job.
Ed Van Impe
Joe Watson
Bill Barber
Paul Holmgren
Mark Howe
Brad Marsh
Rod Brind'amour
Eric Desjardins
Simon Gagne
Derian Hatcher
Kimmo Timonen
Danny Briere
Wayne Simmonds

edit: Ashbee and Dornhoefer too.

NOte: In the 70's teams were allowed to have as many assistant captains as they wished, and often the Flyers had 3 at any given time.

Random thought: I've been a flyers fan since the mid 90's but have lived in NY my whole life so I've stuck with NY teams for every other sport. I don't follow anything outside of hockey closely, but I'm thinking about going full philly across the board just to piss off my friends who are all huge Giants / Knicks fans. I get a lot of enjoyment talking poop to them about the rags, and it could be worth it to be that obnoxious bumhole across the board, thoughts?

Random thought: I've been a flyers fan since the mid 90's but have lived in NY my whole life so I've stuck with NY teams for every other sport. I don't follow anything outside of hockey closely, but I'm thinking about going full philly across the board just to piss off my friends who are all huge Giants / Knicks fans. I get a lot of enjoyment talking poop to them about the rags, and it could be worth it to be that obnoxious bumhole across the board, thoughts?
- Girouxsalem90

- BiggE

It started with me just saying trust the process over and over again after a few drinks when my roommate was trying to talk about ball, and his frustration was amazing. Don't know anything about the eagles, but I'm sure I could troll everyone well enough.

https://www.broadstreetho...tes-analysis-observations

Random thought: I've been a flyers fan since the mid 90's but have lived in NY my whole life so I've stuck with NY teams for every other sport. I don't follow anything outside of hockey closely, but I'm thinking about going full philly across the board just to piss off my friends who are all huge Giants / Knicks fans. I get a lot of enjoyment talking poop to them about the rags, and it could be worth it to be that obnoxious bumhole across the board, thoughts?
- Girouxsalem90

I try to rid my life of unnecessary aggravations, especially self-inflicted ones.

Only Flyers GMs are expected to hit on every pick, and then only by certain people.
- Doc_Sarcasm

"Hitting" and offering a contract are two different things. No one expects a perfect record, even from one of the best scouting teams. I know a certain Sith someone wants to spin what people write to pretend argue, but that wasn't the discussion.

You rarely see top 100 picks, most especially CHL ones, go unsigned due to a team's choice, unless they flat out disaster regress. Flyers did it once (and DMF didn't have a bad year and improved); we'll see if they do it again with a higher 3rd rounder. Twar hasn't regressed either. Flyers have plenty of room, so they're not up against it like some teams (Leafs). People can treat it however, but if he was a 183rd overall pick, not a 83rd overall pick, that plays a part. That's human nature.

Bunnaman, Hogberg, Laczynzkdsdsiski......yes. I think they all look like real players. They're hits.

Salinitri, I think he needs a big year. His spot on the Phantoms 1 year from now is more tenuous due to the role he needs. He's someone that I'm unsure if he gets squeezed out, more than Twar, and whether he has NHL potential. Bernhardt can stay in Sweden 3 more years, so he's no worry. He didn't impress me as much as others (besides his shot), but he's raw and he has time before he comes over.
- Mononoke

I've seen Bunnaman's name thrown around the boards a few times- he'll be top 6 on the Phantoms I suppose? 0.5 goals/game in juniors last year right?

Hogberg I'll be honest this is the first time I've read his name. Must be European. Laczyfdkjafdsuigop has obviously been mentioned recently as the subject of parts of Bill's blogs.

Is Voroboyev going to play for the Phantoms?

As much as I would love to get Amac off the top pair, it's not going to happen this next season. Hextall pretty much signed MacDonald and to put a guy with a 5 mil cap hit as a 7th would make him look foolish and a huge waste of cap space. Amac is going to be on the top pairing for awhile, time to accept it
- SimmerDown17

The Flyers already sent MacDonald down to the AHL for most of a season. Were they concerned about how they looked when they did that?

https://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/7/10/15945002/philadelphia-flyers-prospects-development-camp-2017-notes-analysis-observations
- nastyflyergirl

"On Friday, I came away a bit disappointed with Morgan Frost. He certainly was not actively bad in any of the drills, but none of his skills stood out. That’s why I was surprised when I heard from a few people that Frost had looked fantastic on Saturday, as I had missed both of his sessions in order to watch other groups. So during the Sunday session, I made it a point to observe Frost very closely. It certainly seems like the first round pick was merely getting his feet wet on the first day of camp, because he shone bright Sunday."

Bust

"Hitting" and offering a contract are two different things. No one expects a perfect record, even from one of the best scouting teams. I know a certain Sith someone wants to spin what people write to pretend argue, but that wasn't the discussion.

You rarely see top 100 picks, most especially CHL ones, go unsigned due to a team's choice, unless they flat out disaster regress. Flyers did it once (and DMF didn't have a bad year and improved); we'll see if they do it again with a higher 3rd rounder. Twar hasn't regressed either. Flyers have plenty of room, so they're not up against it like some teams (Leafs). People can treat it however, but if he was a 183rd overall pick, not a 83rd overall pick, that plays a part. That's human nature.
- Mononoke

You and I are talking about two totally different things.

I've seen Bunnaman's name thrown around the boards a few times- he'll be top 6 on the Phantoms I suppose? 0.5 goals/game in juniors last year right?

Hogberg I'll be honest this is the first time I've read his name. Must be European. Laczyfdkjafdsuigop has obviously been mentioned recently as the subject of parts of Bill's blogs.

Is Voroboyev going to play for the Phantoms?
- Giroux_Is_God

Considering they bury almost every rookie forward and give them no PP time, I imagine Bunnaman starts as a bottom 6 guy. He's not eligible yet though. He's good. Great shot, net front guy, good hands, a tank on skates. Needs to keep working on his stride, but his footwork is very good. Center/wing, likely wing at next level. He already got his ELC. Shows they're big fans.

Hogberg is far off from coming over. But he's very good defensively and as a PMD; great skater. He should make the WJC for Sweden this year. Could be a real riser and steal in the coming years.

Vorobyev will be on the Phantoms.

https://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/7/10/15945002/philadelphia-flyers-prospects-development-camp-2017-notes-analysis-observations
- nastyflyergirl

THANKS

"Hitting" and offering a contract are two different things. No one expects a perfect record, even from one of the best scouting teams. I know a certain Sith someone wants to spin what people write to pretend argue, but that wasn't the discussion.

You rarely see top 100 picks, most especially CHL ones, go unsigned due to a team's choice, unless they flat out disaster regress. Flyers did it once (and DMF didn't have a bad year and improved); we'll see if they do it again with a higher 3rd rounder. Twar hasn't regressed either. Flyers have plenty of room, so they're not up against it like some teams (Leafs). People can treat it however, but if he was a 183rd overall pick, not a 83rd overall pick, that plays a part. That's human nature.
- Mononoke

Having it happen once is not really something to be concerned about. Drafting and players development is not an exact science.

https://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/7/10/15945002/philadelphia-flyers-prospects-development-camp-2017-notes-analysis-observations
- nastyflyergirl

Thought it was cool they glued a coach to Strome to give him skating pointers.

Be nice if he could improve his skating the way Lindblom did.

I am personally not expecting Myers to be a big point producer as a pro. Good two-way guy with puck-moving upside, yes. But he doesn't have Sanheim's offensive instincts to the ssame degree.
- bmeltzer

I can see that because he probably won't get the pp time sanheim will get.

The Flyers already sent MacDonald down to the AHL for most of a season. Were they concerned about how they looked when they did that?
- MJL

You're right, I was wrong. Here's a cookie. My point was if people think any of the rookies are going to come in and play top minutes, they're going to be sorely disappointed. As good as Provorov was he still made plenty of rookie mistakes. We're not going to see Provorov and a rookie on the top line, period, end of story. I would love to see Sanheim, Hagg or Morin break the lineup but if you think they're taking top minutes away from Amac, it's delusional thinking IMO.

Thought it was cool they glued a coach to Strome to give him skating pointers.

Be nice if he could improve his skating the way Lindblom did.
- Giroux_Is_God

I know this gets repeated a lot, but his skating is far worse than a similarly aged Lindblom. Players have different skating weaknesses and what you see as projectable to improve. Lindblom always had good footwork and edge work. He needed power skating work and muscle gain. Usual stuff. Strome's skating is broken, in every way. It's bad. Lindblom has become an above average skater; it's more strength than weakness honestly. Strome hopes he can get to reasonably below average. I hope he does because I like him a lot.

Thanks for the development camp link.

Myers looked damn good in the little I saw of him last year at the WJC. The D part of this rebuild is hopefully complete.

I know this gets repeated a lot, but his skating is far worse than a similarly aged Lindblom. Players have different skating weaknesses and what you see as projectable to improve. Lindblom always had good footwork and edge work. He needed power skating work and muscle gain. Usual stuff. Strome's skating is broken, in every way. It's bad. Lindblom has become an above average skater; it's more strength than weakness honestly. Strome hopes he can get to reasonably below average. I hope he does because I like him a lot.
- Mononoke

Cherokee Jack will fix him.

You're right, I was wrong. Here's a cookie. My point was if people think any of the rookies are going to come in and play top minutes, they're going to be sorely disappointed. As good as Provorov was he still made plenty of rookie mistakes. We're not going to see Provorov and a rookie on the top line, period, end of story. I would love to see Sanheim, Hagg or Morin break the lineup but if you think they're taking top minutes away from Amac, it's delusional thinking IMO.
- SimmerDown17

I think the readiness of the young defenseman to play top minutes in key situations is a legitimate concern but that's not what you said. Any thought that the Flyers are going to do anything based on how it might make them look is absurd. Same as what was siad earlier today by another poster that the Flyers would sign a player to "save face".