Trade JVR for a D. Go for it. You know that's the plan.
- storm88

I'm think jvr for demers. Add where you will. But I don't feel like this is a win now move by any means. Just good asset management. Probably could afford to keep jvr long term so get a valuable asset for him. Give the team a chance to win short term while they let the young guys develope could also be bozak going as Marleau also plays center I just don't think we'll be able to get a top 5 d for him. Maybe that's not the plan who knows.

I'm think jvr for demers. Add where you will. But I don't feel like this is a win now move by any means. Just good asset management. Probably could afford to keep jvr long term so get a valuable asset for him. Give the team a chance to win short term while they let the young guys develope could also be bozak going as Marleau also plays center I just don't think we'll be able to get a top 5 d for him. Maybe that's not the plan who knows.
- HealthyScratch6

Ya I don't think jvr is going to Florida! Mind you Tallon scouted him in December of 2014? I think it was? Jvr was not on the market at the time but he was interested! In saying that Florida is looking to dump salery and maybe if the leafs were to retain and Florida adds? Idk ,but the trade for demers will be for picks and or prospects imo! Which would work well if then they could ship jvr +1st lottery protected, +picks/prospects? And if it's a true number 2? Then possibly add bracco, or kappy, and even possibly Neilson? It will cost a boat load! And it would be Vatanen imo! Perfer Manson/dumba! but I doubt their available! So at the beginning of the offseason they needed 3 dmen and we got one! Hainsey a 6 guy! They still need a number 2! And 4! A number 2 to play with Reilly, a number 4 to play with zaitsev, and Gardner at 5 with Hainsey at 6! If demers came in then he could be a great number 4! To play with zaitsev! Then two down and a number 2 dman to go! .. did you frankers get all that? If not then your more franked then me! and I'm franking franked!

Ya I don't think jvr is going to Florida! Mind you Tallon scouted him in December of 2014? I think it was? Jvr was not on the market at the time but he was interested! In saying that Florida is looking to dump salery and maybe if the leafs were to retain and Florida adds? Idk ,but the trade for demers will be for picks and or prospects imo! Which would work well if then they could ship jvr +1st lottery protected, +picks/prospects? And if it's a true number 2? Then possibly add bracco, or kappy, and even possibly Neilson? It will cost a boat load! And it would be Vatanen imo! Perfer Manson/dumba! but I doubt their available! So at the beginning of the offseason they needed 3 dmen and we got one! Hainsey a 6 guy! They still need a number 2! And 4! A number 2 to play with Reilly, a number 4 to play with zaitsev, and Gardner at 5 with Hainsey at 6! If demers came in then he could be a great number 4! To play with zaitsev! Then two down and a number 2 dman to go! .. did you frankers get all that? If not then your more franked then me! and I'm franking franked!
- MR.Hunter

Gardiner might be a 5 on a cup team but he's a 3 on the leafs. No way they get a top pairing right shot D and top 4 left shot dman better than Gardiner without selling the whole team but can't fault you for your optimism.

also dumba and vantanen are both 4's at best. Manson isn't your typical top pair dman but i think he can play a top pair shut down role. Either way none of those guy are available.

Happy "Kovalchuk is signing with the Leafs for 2 years and JVR traded for Manson day" to all of you guys

Gardiner might be a 5 on a cup team but he's a 3 on the leafs. No way they get a top pairing right shot D and top 4 left shot dman better than Gardiner without selling the whole team but can't fault you for your optimism.

also dumba and vantanen are both 4's at best. Manson isn't your typical top pair dman but i think he can play a top pair shut down role. Either way none of those guy are available.
- HealthyScratch6

Gardiner is a solid 3-4 on most teams. Only teams that might not be the case are Anaheim, Nashville, Calgary, Columbus (Hes probably better than Murray) and maybe Winnipeg (Trouba, Buff, Enstrom and Myers is pretty deep plus Morrissey/Kulikov)

I'm not sure what your definition of top pairing is. There are like 10 Dman who are of the caliber in the whole league I assume you're referring to. Many of the others are simply not that elite and are still effectively Top 2 guys.

JVR+___________ = ____________?

Let the speculation begin!
- Hockey_Reverend

Matthews and Willie=crosby

Do the leafs keep jvr or trade him before the summer ends?


I wonder if the leafs already have a deal with fla to take demers, but are waiting till the season starts so that they can use ltir?

Happy "Kovalchuk is signing with the Leafs for 2 years and JVR traded for Manson day" to all of you guys
- MaximusAurelius

I'm down for JVR for Manson

I'm down for JVR for Manson
- Conquest

The Ducks however....

The Ducks however....
- robin_steele264

Since whey do they get a say in these scenarios?

What's the general consensus on the Marleau deal?

Third year might be iffy.

Since whey do they get a say in these scenarios?
- Scabeh

Noni's is working for them.


It's only a matter of time before they do something questionable...

Since whey do they get a say in these scenarios?
- Scabeh

The Price is right, eh?

Best goalie, hands down, but that is a lot of dough for a goalchie as our good friend (poop I forget his name) would say.

Anyone remember that guy? Got an extended vacation from Dozzer a month or two back?

What's the general consensus on the Marleau deal?

Third year might be iffy.
- RickJames77

Well it's alot of money for probably a year too long....

But he wouldn't have come to Toronto for less I presume.

It makes the Leafs a better team, even if he keeps slowing down.

Unless he enters wheelchair category.

What's the general consensus on the Marleau deal?

Third year might be iffy.
- RickJames77

The third year is probably going to be locked out.

Plus most of the money is paid by July 1st of that year, so he could be a paper transaction to the Island if his play has dropped off dramatically by then

The Price is right, eh?

Best goalie, hands down, but that is a lot of dough for a goalchie as our good friend (poop I forget his name) would say.

Anyone remember that guy? Got an extended vacation from Dozzer a month or two back?
- RickJames77

Yeah, that would be Kaptaan (or krapstaain if you prefer).

And yeah, that Price contract... No doubt he's worth it now, but when he's 37....?

Bye JVR.

The Price is right, eh?

Best goalie, hands down, but that is a lot of dough for a goalchie as our good friend (poop I forget his name) would say.

Anyone remember that guy? Got an extended vacation from Dozzer a month or two back?
- RickJames77

Can't recall who you're talking about.

As for Price's contract... god.... it IS alot of money, at least 1M more per year than I had hoped.

This being said, when you consider all the factors thrown in: Quebec Taxes, handling Price as an asset you can't lose for nothing or trade for a fraction of his actual worth next season and his importance to the team.... it's pretty much what he's worth.

So now the Habs will need to work around that contract, it's a challenge but I never thought overpaying for superstar players was the problem, it's the 4M for a third liner contracts that kills you (YES I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU, ANDREW SHAW!).

And for what it's worth, I'm glad to know that for the next 8 years, the Habs won't be an easy team to beat... if only because beating Price, in itself, is never easy.

Yeah, that would be Kaptaan (or krapstaain if you prefer).

And yeah, that Price contract... No doubt he's worth it now, but when he's 37....?
- lumlums

Yeah, can't completely toss aside the possiblity of a buyout in the last 2 years or so.... but hey it's what it took.

What's the general consensus on the Marleau deal?

Third year might be iffy.
- RickJames77

The structure of the deal makes the third year look kind of circumventy. On the other hand he is a durable player. There's no saying he can't contribute for three more years anyway. I'm not worried about three year deals as much as seven or eight year ones.

I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with Matthews and Nylander in a big way.

Can't recall who you're talking about.

As for Price's contract... god.... it IS alot of money, at least 1M more per year than I had hoped.

This being said, when you consider all the factors thrown in: Quebec Taxes, handling Price as an asset you can't lose for nothing or trade for a fraction of his actual worth next season and his importance to the team.... it's pretty much what he's worth.

So now the Habs will need to work around that contract, it's a challenge but I never thought overpaying for superstar players was the problem, it's the 4M for a third liner contracts that kills you (YES I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU, ANDREW SHAW!).

And for what it's worth, I'm glad to know that for the next 8 years, the Habs won't be an easy team to beat... if only because beating Price, in itself, is never easy.
- Scabeh

Take heart young Scabeh...you aren't the Capitals.

The structure of the deal makes the third year look kind of circumventy. On the other hand he is a durable player. There's no saying he can't contribute for three more years anyway. I'm not worried about three year deals as much as seven or eight year ones.

I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with Matthews and Nylander in a big way.
- Zezel

What I don't like, from the Leafs point of view, is that, so far, they still haven't taken care of their most glaring need on defense and have invested considerable money in another forward.

You gotta think a trade is bound to happen.

Take heart young Scabeh...you aren't the Capitals.
- AdamFrench

Well it's alot of money for probably a year too long....

But he wouldn't have come to Toronto for less I presume.

It makes the Leafs a better team, even if he keeps slowing down.

Unless he enters wheelchair category.
- Scabeh

Meh, if this happens they'll just give Bergevin a ring.

The third year is probably going to be locked out.

Plus most of the money is paid by July 1st of that year, so he could be a paper transaction to the Island if his play has dropped off dramatically by then
- lumlums

I didn't think of that.


And poop


I hate our owner, yet I pay him monthly for two chairs.