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z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
See what I posted a few blogs ago. Daly is just blowing smoke to placate the usual whining and lobbying form other teams about cap circumvention. You cannot force a guy to play when he depends on steroids and powerful anti-inflammatories to do so that otherwise affect his long term health—and stop working to prevent the underlying condition. Or the league would face a significant lawsuit by the PA.

As fara ss the suspicious timing, this condition has been there for at least two years. He could have retired at any time and instead kept trying/playing. Yes, this is as good a time as any to stop. So?

The league will allow the Hawks to place him on LTIR.

Only question is when.

- John Jaeckel


You think Hoss is done for good? Guy has had one helluva career.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
I would like to see Galchenyuk or Kane or Neal (feels strange saying that )
But I wouldn't mind a guy like Calvert or another guy who can pot 15-20 goals as a middle six guy with speed.

- 93Joe


Calvert is also like 5'7". Even though he plays tough, I'll pass. Oliver Bjorkstrand, Dubois, and (dreaming) Jenner all have more size AND skating ability. I'd give CBJ a hell of a +++ prospect package for a trade around AA for Jenner. Jenner has the A for a reason as a young guy. He is physical on the forecheck, has 30 goal finishing ability, and goes to the net for the playoff-style greasy goals. He'd be a perfect addition to what Bowman is trying to accomplish....making the Hawks harder to play against AND faster. Boone
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
Calvert is also like 5'7". Even though he plays tough, I'll pass. Oliver Bjorkstrand, Dubois, and (dreaming) Jenner all have more size AND skating ability. I'd give CBJ a hell of a +++ prospect package for a trade around AA for Jenner. Jenner has the A for a reason as a young guy. He is physical on the forecheck, has 30 goal finishing ability, and goes to the net for the playoff-style greasy goals. He'd be a perfect addition to what Bowman is trying to accomplish....making the Hawks harder to play against AND faster. Boone
- EnzoD



AA, prospect and a 1st for Jenner?
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
You think Hoss is done for good? Guy has had one helluva career.
- z1990z


100% done. No way does he take a full year off at 39 and come back.....IMO.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:16 PM ET
AA, prospect and a 1st for Jenner?
- z1990z


As long as it's not Schmaltz, Hartman or Debrincat, where do I sign??
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
You think Hoss is done for good? Guy has had one helluva career.
- z1990z


Yeah, sadly, I think we've seen the last of my favorite Hawk of all time. Class, on and off the ice, played the game as it should be played.

And I will post a Hoss tribute, and then a Hammer tribute, later this summer.
Backbone25
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jun 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
IMO we had better get/trade for a C who can actually win face-offs... AA losing 55% of draws hurts Kane's value more than losing Panarin bc not only does it stop him from scoring but it forces that line to play in the D zone...

I thought I heard Bowman say that they are done making any more "big" moves (which idk if you would count moving AA as big or not) so if I had to bet I think AA won't be moving.

Even if you traded for E Kane and he actually stays healthy and headache free and has a good year then what? Gamble to resign him or lose him for nothing next year...

Schmaltz's FO% was 30% last year - are you kidding me... he is not the answer for 2C at this point. I can't see SB trading the one guy they were after (finally a 2C solution) just bc.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Calvert is also like 5'7". Even though he plays tough, I'll pass. Oliver Bjorkstrand, Dubois, and (dreaming) Jenner all have more size AND skating ability. I'd give CBJ a hell of a +++ prospect package for a trade around AA for Jenner. Jenner has the A for a reason as a young guy. He is physical on the forecheck, has 30 goal finishing ability, and goes to the net for the playoff-style greasy goals. He'd be a perfect addition to what Bowman is trying to accomplish....making the Hawks harder to play against AND faster. Boone
- EnzoD


Ya, give or take 5 inches. LOL He's like 5'11". I've seen him in streetclothes.

John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
IMO we had better get/trade for a C who can actually win face-offs... AA losing 55% of draws hurts Kane's value more than losing Panarin bc not only does it stop him from scoring but it forces that line to play in the D zone...

I thought I heard Bowman say that they are done making any more "big" moves (which idk if you would count moving AA as big or not) so if I had to bet I think AA won't be moving.

Even if you traded for E Kane and he actually stays healthy and headache free and has a good year then what? Gamble to resign him or lose him for nothing next year...

Schmaltz's FO% was 30% last year - are you kidding me... he is not the answer for 2C at this point. I can't see SB trading the one guy they were after (finally a 2C solution) just bc.

- Backbone25


They would def need to see some growth out of Schmaltz for him to backfill AA (who also blows at draws. i also don't think Schmaltz was 30% either
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
IMO we had better get/trade for a C who can actually win face-offs... AA losing 55% of draws hurts Kane's value more than losing Panarin bc not only does it stop him from scoring but it forces that line to play in the D zone...

I thought I heard Bowman say that they are done making any more "big" moves (which idk if you would count moving AA as big or not) so if I had to bet I think AA won't be moving.

Even if you traded for E Kane and he actually stays healthy and headache free and has a good year then what? Gamble to resign him or lose him for nothing next year...

Schmaltz's FO% was 30% last year - are you kidding me... he is not the answer for 2C at this point. I can't see SB trading the one guy they were after (finally a 2C solution) just bc.

- Backbone25


Another possibility out there that no one has mentioned. What if the Hawks held on to Kruger because they knew dealing AA had become a real possibility?

I still think they move Kruger regardless but that is certainly one plausible scenario.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
As long as it's not Schmaltz, Hartman or Debrincat, where do I sign??
- EnzoD



You never know. Stan shocked us all with earlier trades.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
I am taping another 312/Sports Mockery podcast guest bit tonight.

I will post a link tomorrow.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Ya, give or take 5 inches. LOL He's like 5'11". I've seen him in streetclothes.
- John Jaeckel


WOW! He much have a very low base bc he looks tiny on the ice. But you are correct, JJ, HockeyDB has him at 5'11" and 192lbs. Jenner is 6'2" 215lbs and Dubois is 6'3" 202lbs. Calvert is skilled and a tough SOB, though. Did you see that cheap shot he landed in the playoffs?? he got suspended a game, IIRC.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
With the tidbits of Q, Dineen and Kitchen coming out the last several weeks I wonder who really didn't give Trevor Daly a fair chance after only a few practices. I know Q has the final word as he is head coach but, what, if any input did Kitchen have? A lot? None?

And who are Pat and Edzo going to get on the headset before the period starts?
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Yeah, sadly, I think we've seen the last of my favorite Hawk of all time. Class, on and off the ice, played the game as it should be played.

And I will post a Hoss tribute, and then a Hammer tribute, later this summer.

- John Jaeckel



Lets hope the Hawks hang 81 in the UC rafters. Wonder what jersey he wants to retire in? I could see him signing a one day deal with the Senators and retiring with them. And why not.. They drafted him to start his brilliant career. Like you, he was one of my favorite players.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
I'll kiss Stan's ass right in the middle of the concourse of the new Atrium at the UC if he pulls off Boone Jenner from the Jackets!!!!!
- wonthecup10

Stanbo may not know that Boone plays very rough with the other boys in the sandbox. That may not appeal to him.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
WOW! He much have a very low base bc he looks tiny on the ice. But you are correct, JJ, HockeyDB has him at 5'11" and 192lbs. Jenner is 6'2" 215lbs and Dubois is 6'3" 202lbs. Calvert is skilled and a tough SOB, though. Did you see that cheap shot he landed in the playoffs?? he got suspended a game, IIRC.
- EnzoD

Calvert is listed at 5' 11"
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
IMO we had better get/trade for a C who can actually win face-offs... AA losing 55% of draws hurts Kane's value more than losing Panarin bc not only does it stop him from scoring but it forces that line to play in the D zone...

I thought I heard Bowman say that they are done making any more "big" moves (which idk if you would count moving AA as big or not) so if I had to bet I think AA won't be moving.

Even if you traded for E Kane and he actually stays healthy and headache free and has a good year then what? Gamble to resign him or lose him for nothing next year...

Schmaltz's FO% was 30% last year - are you kidding me... he is not the answer for 2C at this point. I can't see SB trading the one guy they were after (finally a 2C solution) just bc.

- Backbone25




Not done:

Bowman on next steps after Draft

https://www.nhl.com/video/c-52327003
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
They would def need to see some growth out of Schmaltz for him to backfill AA (who also blows at draws. i also don't think Schmaltz was 30% either
- John Jaeckel

Schmaltz was 30.1%. That's remarkably bad. Probably comes with needing to be a little bigger an stronger in the upper body. Will be interesting to see if he comes to camp a bit bigger.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
Schmaltz was 30.1%. That's remarkably bad.
- JRoenick97



Stan MUST find another C to work the 3/4 spot who is good on face offs. Moose was given a QO. Anyone know what the FO's numbers were for Kero and Moose? Isnt Desi pretty decent on FO?
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
Another possibility out there that no one has mentioned. What if the Hawks held on to Kruger because they knew dealing AA had become a real possibility?

I still think they move Kruger regardless but that is certainly one plausible scenario.

- John Jaeckel


Depends on who the return is but id be in. I dont think jenner or chucky coming back gets us under the cap though.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Not done:

Bowman on next steps after Draft

https://www.nhl.com/video/c-52327003

- walleyeb1


Stan been hitting the bottle a lil bit? Geezzzzz, the guy looks like he hasnt slept this year!
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
Stan been hitting the bottle a lil bit? Geezzzzz, the guy looks like he hasnt slept this year!
- nickmo2699

2 day draft, sent Hammer packing, sent Bread packing, brought back Saad and some good younger guys. He's been busy. Give that dude a beer.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
Stan MUST find another C to work the 3/4 spot who is good on face offs. Moose was given a QO. Anyone know what the FO's numbers were for Kero and Moose? Isnt Desi pretty decent on FO?
- z1990z

Schmaltz need upper body strength. It was pretty evident during his first season. He's got skills, but he could use some toughness to not get pushed around.
DMChi2010
Joined: 06.03.2014

Jun 26 @ 2:45 PM ET
Another possibility out there that no one has mentioned. What if the Hawks held on to Kruger because they knew dealing AA had become a real possibility?

I still think they move Kruger regardless but that is certainly one plausible scenario.

- John Jaeckel


With AA gone, I think it needs to be, if possible, multiple parts coming back.

Think: Hammer got back a defender 6 years younger with a slightly smaller contract and Laurent Dauphin, who is an RFA and could probably be signed for around $1M. Both have very high upside. One cap hit for Hammer almost covers 2 players.

Panarin + Motte got back a more complete player in Saad though one who is not as much of a pure goal scorer. Same cap hit though longer term for Saad, but the shiny, younger player with high upside is Forsberg.

So AA: for E. Kane, whose cap hit is $5.25M? And who is UFA in a year? Besides the headache, that's not exactly cost certainty for the next 4 years a la Murphy and Saad.

AA for Galchenyuk? He's RFA, and recent RFA's like Saad have gotten a lot of term and a LOT of money. Doesn't help the cap hit even if he signs a reasonable deal for AA's $4.55M.

Is there another under-the-radar move? AA for a centerman of equal or lower age but with a cap hit of $3-3.5M locked in for several years. Maybe hasn't quite posted AA's numbers but the potential is there to be a lot better than AA.
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