List Of Players Who Will Not Receive A Qualifying Offer

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- walleyeb1

Nice find, Walleye............... I like goalie Adam Wilcox a lot. Kid has been solid everywhere and was a 3yr starter at powerhouse U of Minnesota. Like to see the Hawks look at him for at least depth: http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=75058

Kuc also said TML and DAL as the other suitors .... 6m for him seems like a lot.
- mrpaulish

Yeah, he's not worth that much. He played against top QOC for Washington last season, slightly above what Hjammer did for the Hawks with a 3-4% difference in DZS (Hjammer was deeper), but he had terrible shot metric possession on a good shot metric team. That's not the be all, end all of a defender, but it's not good to be so much worse than the rest of your team and for most players to do better when away from you. Usage/deployment likely not ideal for him.

Got middling/okay/#4 shot suppression levels. Turns 29 in a few months, so not exactly young and wants term. Worth probably around $3m, going to get almost twice that because the UFA market is extra weak with defenders. Don't get me wrong, he'd be a fine 2nd pairing guy, but not at that price tag.

I'd rather the Hawks look to Vegas for Merrill - solid, workhorse stay-at-home guy who defends well and less than $2m for another year.

Canucks are supposedly in on him too because he's from there. If any team will overpay for a UFA, it's the Canucks.

Yeah, he's not worth that much. He played against top QOC for Washington, slightly above what Hjammer did for the Hawks with a 3-4% difference in DZS (Hjammer was deeper), but he had terrible shot metric possession on a good shot metric team. That's not the be all, end all of a defender, but it's not good to be so much worse than the rest of your team and for most players to do better when away from you.

Got middling/okay/#4 shot suppression levels. Worth probably around $3m, going to get almost twice that because the UFA market is extra weak with defenders.

I'd rather the Hawks look to Vegas for Merrill - solid, workhorse stay-at-home guy who defends well and less than $2m for another year.
- L_B_R

Yeah, from what I've seen of him he isn't that bad. Admittedly, I'm not an avid watcher of the Caps. He is durable - meaning not injured very often in my sense. I'd say $4.25 at max. But a team like Dallas will throw $6M for 5 years at him.

More than likely the Hawks would need to be creative...

...but Alzner would certainly strengthen what now looks like a rather thin, suspect blueline.

Yeah, from what I've seen of him he isn't that bad. Admittedly, I'm not an avid watcher of the Caps. He is durable - meaning not injured very often in my sense. I'd say $4.25 at max. But a team like Dallas will throw $6M for 5 years at him.
- 93Joe

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's bad - I think his usage/deployment was probably more than he should have been handling. Give him 2nd pair usage and he'd likely to be real solid, kind of like a couple of years ago.

Just not worth the money/term people are throwing around about him. I mean, you might as well have kept Hjammer because he'd have been cheaper, only a year older, and better.

He's a stay at home d-man (read: not much offense) so I think $5.5M is too pricey. But I will say something he has going for him - since he became a full time player in 2010/11 he has not missed a single game.
- EbonyRaptor

His possesion and suppression numbers are not good, but he passes the eye test. Maybe being a Cap makes those look bad.

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Source: #Blackhawks have communicated with free-agent defenseman Karl Alzner's camp.
Would take some shuffling to make that happen.
- mrpaulish

If throwing up in one's mouth is being turned on, then yes.

No. Not only no. But awwwheeelllllno.

His possesion and suppression numbers are not good, but he passes the eye test. Maybe being a Cap makes those look bad.
- JRoenick97

The Caps were one of the best shot metric possession teams last year, though. He rode a high 104 PDO last year too vs other years where he was more even. Hawks need a #4, but they can't afford to pay him $4m+.

List Of Players Who Will Not Receive A Qualifying Offer

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- walleyeb1

Wow, Jersey gave up on oft injured Beau Bennet. .... Dman Stuart Percy, a 2011 1st rounder??? Thought he a had a decent stride....... Another 1st rounder Quinten Howden... Ty Rattie?..... Jacob Josefson a 26 yr old center, 1st rounder.....Christian Folin not qualified by MN?? Kid has the look of a decent 12-13 minute guy who won't kill you and has experience!! ........ Josh Jooris cut loose by AZ. Always thought he was solid as a 4th C for CAL. Decent size, hard worker, couple hundred NHL games experience.

Wow, Jersey gave up on oft injured Beau Bennet. .... Dman Stuart Percy, a 2011 1st rounder??? Thought he a had a decent stride....... Another 1st rounder Quinten Howden... Ty Rattie?..... Jacob Josefson a 26 yr old center, 1st rounder.....Christian Folin not qualified by MN?? Kid has the look of a decent 12-13 minute guy who won't kill you and has experience!! ........ Josh Jooris cut loose by AZ. Always thought he was solid as a 4th C for CAL. Decent size, hard worker, couple hundred NHL games experience.
- Mr Ricochet

= Plenty of options come FA to bolster the bottom 6 and PK/C help.

= Plenty of options come FA to bolster the bottom 6 and PK/C help.
- z1990z

I'd think some PTO contract possibilities, but nobody who I'd want to commit to without seeing them in training camp ....

I was just trying to be somewhat realistic on a Cap Hit that Alzner might agree to. He could probably get $6mil+ from a desperate team looking for defense help, whether he is worth it or not is a completely different story....
- EnzoD

Trust me, you don't really want Alzner, especially at $6M per long term. After watching him for 5 games you would be asking why they traded Hammer.

The Caps were one of the best shot metric possession teams last year, though. He rode a high 104 PDO last year too vs other years where he was more even. Hawks need a #4, but they can't afford to pay him $4m+.
- L_B_R

His corsi rel % was -7.1. that's not great.

Yeah, he's not worth that much. He played against top QOC for Washington last season, slightly above what Hjammer did for the Hawks with a 3-4% difference in DZS (Hjammer was deeper), but he had terrible shot metric possession on a good shot metric team. That's not the be all, end all of a defender, but it's not good to be so much worse than the rest of your team and for most players to do better when away from you. Usage/deployment likely not ideal for him.

Got middling/okay/#4 shot suppression levels. Turns 29 in a few months, so not exactly young and wants term. Worth probably around $3m, going to get almost twice that because the UFA market is extra weak with defenders. Don't get me wrong, he'd be a fine 2nd pairing guy, but not at that price tag.

I'd rather the Hawks look to Vegas for Merrill - solid, workhorse stay-at-home guy who defends well and less than $2m for another year.

Canucks are supposedly in on him too because he's from there. If any team will overpay for a UFA, it's the Canucks.
- L_B_R

Yes.

= Plenty of options come FA to bolster the bottom 6 and PK/C help.
- z1990z

Who knows, but options are nice when you have little money you dumpster dive and hope for something palatable....... Always liked the Wilcox kid. Must be a numbers game him not being qualified or off ice issues. ....... And I'd scrub every Dman to look for a possibility.

I'd think some PTO contract possibilities, but nobody who I'd want to commit to without seeing them in training camp ....
- Hank_Greenberg

Indeed. Hawks have the high visibility factor where a player can come in turn his game around and shop for a decent contract afterwards. Not like they don't have spots open for competition.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's bad - I think his usage/deployment was probably more than he should have been handling. Give him 2nd pair usage and he'd likely to be real solid, kind of like a couple of years ago.

Just not worth the money/term people are throwing around about him. I mean, you might as well have kept Hjammer because he'd have been cheaper, only a year older, and better.
- L_B_R

This...if you're going after Alzner for that kind of money why didn't you just hang onto Hammer...Stan needs to add to that second line...or are we going to hear more about the kids and just sign Sharpie...I'll guess we'll see soon enough.

This...if you're going after Alzner for that kind of money why didn't you just hang onto Hammer...Stan needs to add to that second line...or are we going to hear more about the kids and just sign Sharpie...I'll guess we'll see soon enough.
- DK002

Because StanBo REALLY liked Murphy, I'd guess.

Indeed. Hawks have the high visibility factor where a player can come in turn his game around and shop for a decent contract afterwards. Not like they don't have spots open for competition.
- Mr Ricochet

And while they haven't won in a couple of seasons and the bloom may be off the rose a bit you'd have to think this is still a prime destination for a lot of players especially when you consider how the Hawks treat and take care of players here as well as the city and the atmosphere.

Because StanBo REALLY liked Murphy, I'd guess.
- EnzoD

Hey Enzo...anxious to see if Stan can work his way out of this cap mess that he created. I'm going to hold judgment here until he's made his other moves. Should be interesting...

Hey Enzo...anxious to see if Stan can work his way out of this cap mess that he created. I'm going to hold judgment here until he's made his other moves. Should be interesting...
- DK002

I see what you're saying as Hammer > Alzner. But, StanBo probably didn't have other assets (he'd be willing to move) that Chayka would want back for Murphy. I think Anisimov AND Kruger should be moved for a Top 6 Wing or another Murphy-esque young Dman. Sign a Veteran Center that can win draws. Again, can the Hawks sign/trade for players up 10% over the Cap or not? I dont fully understand the LTIR offseason rules, but I know you can be 10% over the cap before the RS starts. That is $7.5mil and Hossa's cap hit is $5.25 mil. So, hypothetically, Stan could acquire players via trade or Free Agency by as much as $5mil over the cap....right??

Today's interview...

Blackhawks Summer Winds of Change-NHL Radio Network with Boomer Gordon https://chirb.it/ak7OE5

Dream scenario for our forwards:

Move AA for E. Kane

Move Kruger to further clear space

Add Sharp and Thornton on cheap, 1 year deals

Get Hossa to return for the playoffs with zero impact on our cap situation

Saad-Toews-Panik
Kane-Schmaltz-Kane
Sharp-Thornton-Hossa
Hinostroza-Kero-Hartman

Schmaltz and Thornton can be flip flopped if need be

Dream scenario for our forwards:

Move AA for E. Kane

Move Kruger to further clear space

Add Sharp and Thornton on cheap, 1 year deals

Get Hossa to return for the playoffs with zero impact on our cap situation

Saad-Toews-Panik
Kane-Schmaltz-Kane
Sharp-Thornton-Hossa
Hinostroza-Kero-Hartman
- SimpleJack

The other 30 GMs would literally march on 1901 W. Madison with Torches and Pitchforks.

The other 30 GMs would literally march on 1901 W. Madison with Torches and Pitchforks.

- EnzoD

True, and I wouldn't feel an ounce of remorse.