There are far more leaf fans who do that to other fans than other fans who do that to leafs fans. Go read some of the forums and see how many leafs fans trolled sens fans after Connor Brown was cut from team Canada after missing most of the first half with an injury......or how much they trolled Curtis lazar's slow start to last year after he missed a couple months of training with, you guessed it, mono.
- sensarmy_11

Why would Leaf fans troll Sens fans over Connor Brown?

plus there are like 10 Sens fans and 10,000 leaf fans so that's a factor.


But just look at any Sens thread. You guys barely even talk your own team. But I'm sure if unneglected spatrollapalooza over Laine > Matthews shows rivalry trash talk goes both ways.

Why would Leaf fans troll Sens fans over Connor Brown?

plus there are like 10 Sens fans and 10,000 leaf fans so that's a factor.


But just look at any Sens thread. You guys barely even talk your own team. But I'm sure if unneglected spatrollapalooza over Laine > Matthews shows rivalry trash talk goes both ways.
- systemtool

Logan brown......typo

Plus I just gave sens examples.....leafs fans also troll canucks, oilers, habs pretty heavily....and basically every other team to one level or another

Logan brown......typo

Plus I just gave sens examples.....leafs fans also troll canucks, oilers, habs pretty heavily....and basically every other team to one level or another
- sensarmy_11

As they troll Leaf fans just as hard. You may not see it but it happens alot. Especially over the last 15 years or so it's been the worst. We see it and hear it even of you don't, and we give it right back.

There are far more leaf fans who do that to other fans than other fans who do that to leafs fans. Go read some of the forums and see how many leafs fans trolled sens fans after Connor Brown was cut from team Canada after missing most of the first half with an injury......or how much they trolled Curtis lazar's slow start to last year after he missed a couple months of training with, you guessed it, mono.
- sensarmy_11

There are far more Leafs fans therefore there are far more trolls in the fanbase. It's a simple matter of numbers. Having said that, there wasn't anything trollish in my posts in this thread or any other Leafs fan for that matter.

Of course, there's a big difference in Lazar's bout with mono than Liljegren - Lazar was already the owner of two full seasons in the NHL where he already had signs of "bust" becoming increasingly apparent.

It's anyone's guess how Liljegren will perform. He could be a total bust or he could show why he was projected to go near the top of his draft class.

People who say Calgary overpaid for Hamonic should see what Edmonton paid for Reinhart. It wasn't that much more.
- ALEDDO

They did over pay for hamonic as Reinhart was an overpayment as well.

Funny how Hall and Eberle were never thought of as stars,until they were traded... Then apparently we got fleeced in the deals.
They were both passed over for olympics, as in not even close...Injury after injury and they still picked Oreilly over them.. Not thought highly of from many other gms around the league,thus Larsson and Strome was the best we could get for them...
- oilpatch

Ok. Take my team out of it, and I also said I wanted Liljegren for the Sabres.

I clearly remember reading the summer before the season started that Day was the name after Matthews, it wasn't until the season started that Puljujarvi's name came up and then Laine's soon after, and it wasn't until after the WJC that Laine pulled ahead and the Finnish playoffs that Laine was being whispered as a challenger(media driven) for Matthews, but it just shows that this is a variable thing we're talking about.

Even a 2nd overall still battling the remnants of mono should get selected, but from what I've read he was healthy at that time and they could've put him on the team and then said he wasn't healthy enough and put another guy in for him at the last minute.

I would've taken him at 8, but let's not kid ourselves, he slipped because of more than mono.
- Wetbandit1

There are psychological factors when a player starts to drop too. Other teams think other teams know something they don't.

I never said that there weren't other reasons for him to drop, but the fact is, teams should be picking high end talent when its available.

Liljegren remains one of the three or four most talented players in this entire draft and teams are wrong to take such conservative approaches to drafting players, especially when you consider that each player picked after the top of the draft is an increasingly long shot to even make it in the first place.

Funny how Hall and Eberle were never thought of as stars,until they were traded... Then apparently we got fleeced in the deals.
They were both passed over for olympics, as in not even close...Injury after injury and they still picked Oreilly over them.. Not thought highly of from many other gms around the league,thus Larsson and Strome was the best we could get for them...
- oilpatch

Whats funny is that people do not acknowledge that between injuries, Taylor Hall is a top ten player in the NHL. In order to make the Larson trade even somewhat acceptable, almost no one actually talks about Taylor Hall realistically.

Other than McDavid, he might be the fastest player in the NHL. So that right there - passing up on the chance to have the two fastest players - is pretty dumb in and of itself.

As a 5v5 player who drives offense with pure speed, Hall is one of the best. The Oilers were brutal in the same way Yzerman's early Red Wings were brutal, or Crosby in his rookie season........for whatever reason, people do not accept that great players can be on bad teams.

Taylor Hall is underrated to a point where it's honestly not even fathomable to people who are aware of how good he is.

Whats funny is that people do not acknowledge that between injuries, Taylor Hall is a top ten player in the NHL. In order to make the Larson trade even somewhat acceptable, almost no one actually talks about Taylor Hall realistically.

Other than McDavid, he might be the fastest player in the NHL. So that right there - passing up on the chance to have the two fastest players - is pretty dumb in and of itself.

As a 5v5 player who drives offense with pure speed, Hall is one of the best. The Oilers were brutal in the same way Yzerman's early Red Wings were brutal, or Crosby in his rookie season........for whatever reason, people do not accept that great players can be on bad teams.

Taylor Hall is underrated to a point where it's honestly not even fathomable to people who are aware of how good he is.
- James_Tanner

So just out of curiosity,why do you think a top ten in the league was passed on repeatedly for the olympic team?

So just out of curiosity,why do you think a top ten in the league was passed on repeatedly for the olympic team?
- oilpatch

Because Canada is almost guaranteed to win, so they select players based on their "right" to be on the team - I don't remember the last time Canada actually put together the "best" team they could have, if they've ever even done it.

Since they only lose when getting powerfully unlucky, they have no incentive to even ice the best team. They just take their favorite guys and go from there.

Because Canada is almost guaranteed to win, so they select players based on their "right" to be on the team - I don't remember the last time Canada actually put together the "best" team they could have, if they've ever even done it.

Since they only lose when getting powerfully unlucky, they have no incentive to even ice the best team. They just take their favorite guys and go from there.
- James_Tanner

Whats funny is that people do not acknowledge that between injuries, Taylor Hall is a top ten player in the NHL. In order to make the Larson trade even somewhat acceptable, almost no one actually talks about Taylor Hall realistically.

Other than McDavid, he might be the fastest player in the NHL. So that right there - passing up on the chance to have the two fastest players - is pretty dumb in and of itself.

As a 5v5 player who drives offense with pure speed, Hall is one of the best. The Oilers were brutal in the same way Yzerman's early Red Wings were brutal, or Crosby in his rookie season........for whatever reason, people do not accept that great players can be on bad teams.

Taylor Hall is underrated to a point where it's honestly not even fathomable to people who are aware of how good he is.
- James_Tanner

Crosby,Malkin,Kessel,Mcdavid,draisaitl,getzlaf,forsberg,mathews,laine,giroux,seguin,


,scheifele,tavares,kucherov,stamkos,pavelski,kane,tarasenko,ov,backstrom,gaudreau,

benn..... Just to name a few`` forwards¨¨ that no gm would trade straight across for Hall..
So to call him a top ten, isnt even close...

Crosby,Malkin,Kessel,Mcdavid,draisaitl,getzlaf,forsberg,mathews,laine,giroux,seguin,


,scheifele,tavares,kucherov,stamkos,pavelski,kane,tarasenko,ov,backstrom,gaudreau,

benn..... Just to name a few`` forwards¨¨ that no gm would trade straight across for Hall..
So to call him a top ten, isnt even close...
- oilpatch

OK, he's even more underrated than I thought. I'd bust out the stats, but it's been done so many times - you can just check them out yourself, he's insanely good.

OK, he's even more underrated than I thought. I'd bust out the stats, but it's been done so many times - you can just check them out yourself, he's insanely good.
- James_Tanner

James... I dont have a hate on for Hall and i am certainly not trying to diss him.I just think there is a reason why the oil could only land a Larsson for him...There was nothing better offered.So you cant dis Chia for getting the best dman he could....We needed a solid dman more than we needed Hall

James... I dont have a hate on for Hall and i am certainly not trying to diss him.I just think there is a reason why the oil could only land a Larsson for him...There was nothing better offered.So you cant dis Chia for getting the best dman he could....We needed a solid dman more than we needed Hall
- oilpatch

Fast forward to today. Kris Russell $16 million dollars...

Fast forward to today. Kris Russell $16 million dollars...
- geta02it

So ....in your wisdom, what else was available and at what cost ?

So ....in your wisdom, what else was available and at what cost ?
- oilpatch

For much less money.
(joking aside), I like Russell, thought the Flames should have kept him as in a third pairing role but not a hope in hell at 16 million.

Why would Leaf fans troll Sens fans over Connor Brown?

plus there are like 10 Sens fans and 10,000 leaf fans so that's a factor.


But just look at any Sens thread. You guys barely even talk your own team. But I'm sure if unneglected spatrollapalooza over Laine > Matthews shows rivalry trash talk goes both ways.
- systemtool

quality over quantity

Whats funny is that people do not acknowledge that between injuries, Taylor Hall is a top ten player in the NHL. In order to make the Larson trade even somewhat acceptable, almost no one actually talks about Taylor Hall realistically.

Other than McDavid, he might be the fastest player in the NHL. So that right there - passing up on the chance to have the two fastest players - is pretty dumb in and of itself.

As a 5v5 player who drives offense with pure speed, Hall is one of the best. The Oilers were brutal in the same way Yzerman's early Red Wings were brutal, or Crosby in his rookie season........for whatever reason, people do not accept that great players can be on bad teams.

Taylor Hall is underrated to a point where it's honestly not even fathomable to people who are aware of how good he is.
- James_Tanner

This post is proof of a hockey blogger who watches hockey on a computer spreadsheet and does not know how to stop on the outside edge of his skates.

For much less money.
(joking aside), I like Russell, thought the Flames should have kept him as in a third pairing role but not a hope in hell at 16 million.
- geta02it

Yeah there just isnt much out there...If you have a good dman you dont let him go.
16 m hurts,but im pretty sure if the oil made the same deal as calgary for Hamonic,these threads would have exploded aswell...
Shows the importance of drafting well

quality over quantity
- 2Real

In their case it's neither.

Yeah there just isnt much out there...If you have a good dman you dont let him go.
16 m hurts,but im pretty sure if the oil made the same deal as calgary for Hamonic,these threads would have exploded aswell...
Shows the importance of drafting well
- oilpatch

Wideman will be available next week!

Because Canada is almost guaranteed to win, so they select players based on their "right" to be on the team - I don't remember the last time Canada actually put together the "best" team they could have, if they've ever even done it.

Since they only lose when getting powerfully unlucky, they have no incentive to even ice the best team. They just take their favorite guys and go from there.
- James_Tanner

More conspiracy theory garbage. Perhaps they choose their team based on chemistry, consistency, performing under pressure, likelihood to not make a low percentage pass when they are put under, etc. etc. etc.

...or it's one big conspiracy laden old boys' club that you have uncovered.

Eklund...for the last time...this chicken is overcooked, time to take it out.

More conspiracy theory garbage. Perhaps they choose their team based on chemistry, consistency, performing under pressure, likelihood to not make a low percentage pass when they are put under, etc. etc. etc.

...or it's one big conspiracy laden old boys' club that you have uncovered.

Eklund...for the last time...this chicken is overcooked, time to take it out.
- JLO961

I am honestly amused because I have never seen anyone misuse the term "conspiracy theory" before.

If you were thinking straight, you'd know that what I wrote is not only correct, it's incontrovertible.

Team Canada doesn't sit down and decide to take a bad team, but because they are always massive favorites, their managers pretty much have a free pass. Which is fine. The only reason I even brought it up was because of the stupid idea that Team Canada couldn't leave off a player who is better than they ended up taking - which literally happens every year.

Whats funny is that people do not acknowledge that between injuries, Taylor Hall is a top ten player in the NHL. In order to make the Larson trade even somewhat acceptable, almost no one actually talks about Taylor Hall realistically.

Other than McDavid, he might be the fastest player in the NHL. So that right there - passing up on the chance to have the two fastest players - is pretty dumb in and of itself.

As a 5v5 player who drives offense with pure speed, Hall is one of the best. The Oilers were brutal in the same way Yzerman's early Red Wings were brutal, or Crosby in his rookie season........for whatever reason, people do not accept that great players can be on bad teams.

Taylor Hall is underrated to a point where it's honestly not even fathomable to people who are aware of how good he is.
- James_Tanner

Are we talking about the same Taylor Hall who has never had a 30 goal season ?