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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Salary cap set, Looking at Vancouver Canucks options at No. 5 in the draft
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 20 @ 8:47 AM ET
he's a ufa in 11 days
- SMBDragon

Not serious
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 20 @ 9:18 AM ET
Not serious
- CanuckDon


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 9:30 AM ET
Not serious
- CanuckDon



I don't think Dragon grasps sarcasm to well
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 20 @ 9:41 AM ET
Oh ok, it gets confusing with talk of 14 mil and holding back development, I thought you were referring to this year.

My comment was that I think they will come back to prove something and will be extended, for what I have no idea.

- Makita

With all of the Benning hate and whining here over the past few days just imagine how busy you are gonna be when the Sedins are extended here...
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 20 @ 9:50 AM ET
I would give Doan a 1 year 2.5 contract. Exactly the type of player that Van could use to show JV and Boeser how to play the game.

Then Trade Tanev to Arizona for 23rd and 2nd rounder.

After Drouin trade, Sergachev who was 9th OA and a 2nd rounder for the 3OA.

Most scouts and other NHL people feel Tanev is not a top pairing D. A good 3 because of his limited offence.

Sergachev was projected to be a top pairing.

People that think Tanev is worth the 3OA even in this draft are a bit crazy.

Trade to Dallas I heard was Stephen Johns, 29OA, 3OA for Tanev and 5Oa. So really Johns and 29OA plus moving up two spots for Tanev.

- manvanfan


I could see a trade with Dallas or Colorado happening. Doubt Benning wants ts to lose out on Vilarxi/Glass, so he wants some guarantee. The only way to get that is select in top 4.
I would be ok with that trade if a 2nd/3rd round pick were added.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 20 @ 9:55 AM ET
I could see a trade with Dallas or Colorado happening. Doubt Benning wants ts to lose out on Vilarxi/Glass, so he wants some guarantee. The only way to get that is select in top 4.
I would be ok with that trade if a 2nd/3rd round pick were added.

- Reubenkincade

Vilardi or Glass are the way to go.

Rumor is Benning is asking for a 1st and prospect for Tanev so basically Tanev is staying right here.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 20 @ 9:59 AM ET
With all of the Benning hate and whining here over the past few days just imagine how busy you are gonna be when the Sedins are extended here...
- LordHumungous



Really? I think if the Sedins are extended the haters will pull a DCT and say adios for a year or so . There will be nothing but love and harmony in here to go along with finishing 31 st every year.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:00 AM ET
Vilardi or Glass are the way to go.

Rumor is Benning is asking for a 1st and prospect for Tanev so basically Tanev is staying right here.

- LordHumungous

He isn't going anywhere. If its not a sensible move JB shouldn't do it.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jun 20 @ 10:08 AM ET
@gabhockey46
Alumni #Cataractes' Alexis D'Aoust sign a ELC with Vancouver #Canucks. #NHL #TQN
4:44 AM - 20 Jun 2017 · Mascouche, Québec
Q overager for utica?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 20 @ 10:13 AM ET
@gabhockey46
Alumni #Cataractes' Alexis D'Aoust sign a ELC with Vancouver #Canucks. #NHL #TQN
4:44 AM - 20 Jun 2017 · Mascouche, Québec
Q overager for utica?

- onesmallleap


Good signing. This kid plays hard and has some nice offense.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:17 AM ET
I don't think Dragon grasps sarcasm to well
- VANTEL


I'd like to hear Dragon's thoughts on:

Tanev

for

3OA
Chabot
Avs "A level" prospect
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
@gabhockey46
Alumni #Cataractes' Alexis D'Aoust sign a ELC with Vancouver #Canucks. #NHL #TQN
4:44 AM - 20 Jun 2017 · Mascouche, Québec
Q overager for utica?

- onesmallleap

He scored 98 points last year vs 60 this year, in 18 fewer games. I remember there was talk of some teams signing him last year but nobody ever did
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
Squire Barnes: "The #Canucks have talked to the four teams ahead of them [to move up] - it doesn't look like that's going to happening."
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 20 @ 10:29 AM ET
Not sure if anyone has posted this...

Benning on drafting a defenseman: "A guy that can run the power-play and has a hard shot and gets it on net - that's a need." #Canucks

Benning on Cale Makar: "It's his ability to skate and jump up in the play, and his shot from the point - he has a hard, accurate shot."

These quotes together make me worried.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:33 AM ET
Not sure if anyone has posted this...

Benning on drafting a defenseman: "A guy that can run the power-play and has a hard shot and gets it on net - that's a need." #Canucks

Benning on Cale Makar: "It's his ability to skate and jump up in the play, and his shot from the point - he has a hard, accurate shot."

These quotes together make me worried.

- NorthNuck


Why is that, are you hoping VAN drafts someone else?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
I would give Doan a 1 year 2.5 contract. Exactly the type of player that Van could use to show JV and Boeser how to play the game.

Then Trade Tanev to Arizona for 23rd and 2nd rounder.

After Drouin trade, Sergachev who was 9th OA and a 2nd rounder for the 3OA.

Most scouts and other NHL people feel Tanev is not a top pairing D. A good 3 because of his limited offence.

Sergachev was projected to be a top pairing.

People that think Tanev is worth the 3OA even in this draft are a bit crazy.

Trade to Dallas I heard was Stephen Johns, 29OA, 3OA for Tanev and 5Oa. So really Johns and 29OA plus moving up two spots for Tanev.

- manvanfan


Thats bad, no way. Forget about moving up 2 spots it's not worth it. We'll likely get who we want at 5. Tanev for a mid 1st and prospect. Johns is basically a 5-6. Quality over quantity please.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
Why is that, are you hoping VAN drafts someone else?
- As_I_See_It

We need a C more than a Dman and the Cs in the range we're picking in are safer picks
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:43 AM ET
We need a C more than a Dman and the Cs in the range we're picking in are safer picks
- NorthNuck


We need everything.

Heisk
Vilardi
Glass

2 of these 3 should be there at 5. Makar won't make it past the Avs. Vilardi is close as it gets to NHL ready. Might sway JB.

Prepare for Tanev to be a Canuck this year.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:46 AM ET
We need a C more than a Dman and the Cs in the range we're picking in are safer picks
- NorthNuck


For sure. Thanks for clarifying.

Given the likely availability of one of Glass, Vilardi or Mittelstadt, how hungry Vegas is to get of the gate quickly and the picks/prospects that they've stockpiled... I think their team selections have the possibility to be telling of their interest and direction.

It obviously wouldn't be huge, but what would LV offer VAN to exchange the 5OA and 6OA picks?

Does trading down to either 7OA (ARI) or 8OA (BUF) make sense? Because both have a lot of what VAN could be looking for while VAN still might be able to draft their #1 target.

Would you guys do something around the 5OA and Sam Reinhart, a C and a good ol' Vancouver boy?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
For sure. Thanks for clarifying.

Given the likely availability of one of Glass, Vilardi or Mittelstadt, how hungry Vegas is to get of the gate quickly and the picks/prospects that they've stockpiled... I think their team selections have the possibility to be telling of their interest and direction.

It obviously would be huge, but what would LV offer VAN to exchange the 5OA and 6OA picks?

Does trading down to either 7OA (ARI) or 8OA (BUF) make sense? Because both have a lot of what VAN could be looking for while VAN still might be able to draft their #1 target.

Would you guys do something around the 5OA and Sam Reinhart, a C and a good ol' Vancouver boy?

- As_I_See_It


I don't think LV would bother.
Trading down might be a possibility if JB really likes Pettersson.
Even as young as Reino is I think JB wants to keep the pick. JV is an ol' local boy too.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
We need everything.

Heisk
Vilardi
Glass

2 of these 3 should be there at 5. Makar won't make it past the Avs. Vilardi is close as it gets to NHL ready. Might sway JB.

Prepare for Tanev to be a Canuck this year.

- storm88

Won't be surprising if Tanev is still here come October. I hope you're right and Makar is gone, I think he is the only D JB would take at 5.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:07 AM ET
wife diet?

Im sure that could mean many things....hopefully not cannibal

What is a wife diet?

- SMBDragon


I think it means he can only eat what she allows him to. Until he heads out golfing, has a few beers and chicken wings.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
I don't think LV would bother.
Trading down might be a possibility if JB really likes Pettersson.
Even as young as Reino is I think JB wants to keep the pick. JV is an ol' local boy too.

- storm88


LV is such a wild card and almost impossible to predict at this point given we don't know what their team looks like or what side deals are in place.

My guess is that LV is looking a for D, likley Makar. If Makar goes in the top 4 I think that plays well in VAN's favour because I can't see LV trading down at all in the their first draft. That said, LV would then be looking to draft the BPA at forward and I think would feel good knowing they did everything that they could to do so.

Again, the return might not be big, but it could see VAN acquire an extra 3rd round or something along those lines.

What about something along these lines...

5OA
Tanev

for

8OA
Reinhart
+ ?

storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:13 AM ET
LV is such a wild card and almost impossible to predict at this point given we don't know what their team looks like or what side deals are in place.

My guess is that LV is looking a for D, likley Makar. If Makar goes in the top 4 I think that plays well in VAN's favour because I can't see LV trading down at all in the their first draft. That said, LV would then be looking to draft the BPA at forward and I think would feel good knowing they did everything that they could to do so.

Again, the return might not be big, but it could see VAN acquire an extra 3rd round or something along those lines.

What about something along these lines...

5OA
Tanev

for

8OA
Reinhart
+ ?

- As_I_See_It


if there's a + it would't be much more. Kinda robbing Peter to pay Paul here. Keep the 5th and trade Tanev for 2 quality pieces (pick-prospect). Or keep him I guess.
I'm thinking we would want a bigger C to pair with Bo. But, in terms of a fair deal I guess thats close.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 20 @ 11:13 AM ET
I would give Doan a 1 year 2.5 contract. Exactly the type of player that Van could use to show JV and Boeser how to play the game.

Then Trade Tanev to Arizona for 23rd and 2nd rounder.

After Drouin trade, Sergachev who was 9th OA and a 2nd rounder for the 3OA.

Most scouts and other NHL people feel Tanev is not a top pairing D. A good 3 because of his limited offence.

Sergachev was projected to be a top pairing.

People that think Tanev is worth the 3OA even in this draft are a bit crazy.

Trade to Dallas I heard was Stephen Johns, 29OA, 3OA for Tanev and 5Oa. So really Johns and 29OA plus moving up two spots for Tanev.

- manvanfan






people don't seem to realize Shane Doan wouldn't make any NHL team at this point
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