Coming from the cess pool of Philly that is hard to believe
- holeinone

PLUS: My list of most overrated defensemen:

Aaron Ekblad, Brett Seabrook, Ryan Suter, Roman Josi, Rasmus Ristolainen and Cam Fowler.

Yeah, if that is your list, it screams only one thing...

Your criteria are fcuked.

Are you trusting those same dumbass numbers that have been proven meaningless, over and over and over and over again?

THeres no rational discourse with the dude who you're retorting to

My guess is he got into Fox News awhile back and then listened to a few Sarah palin speeches and he was totally sold.

I'm pretty much in the middle, and there's some rational opinions expressed by some righties on this thread to be sure. But holeinone is a raving lunatic. Nothing redeeming about his posts and zero Idea wtf he's talking about

Rather amusing actually
- HB77

It is and really, that's the only reason I responded. When a state contributes $2.4 Trillion dollars a year I'm fine with them taking $30 billion here and there.

I don't decide. I am just telling you that those guys are not credible intellectuals. Find the smartest person you know and ask them what they think of Newt, you don't have to trust me.
- james_tanner1

I know the Fake News media does not cover good things that Trump does but around the world he is making his mark. Unlike Obumma world leaders like Trump and the despised OBUMMA

Their entire job is to be an objective source of truth. To my knowledge they are a VERY respected group.

They have a Pulitzer.

And they have variously been critical of both sides of the aisle.

There was also a project by the University of Minnesota to determine if they picked on one side or the other and they were found to be fair.

So if you won't accept their reputation, the PULITZER committee and the U of MN then I can't help you.
- james_tanner1

Nothing to do with accepting their reputation. That depends on who you talk to about them. I could easily show you multiple independent media watchdogs who would tell you that your beliefs are wrong. So who do you want to believe?

The problem isn't Politifacts rep, it's that you believe they're infallible.

Politifact,

% of statements that are mostly false or outright lies:

MSNBC: 41%
CNN: 37%
Fox: 60%


Source : Politifact.
- james_tanner1

Politifact is funded by George Soros and Alberto Ibarguen, president and CEO of the Knight Foundation, one of PolitiFact’s largest contributors, donated $200,000 to support the 8th annual Clinton Global Initiative University meeting in February 2015.
Try again!

I don't decide. I am just telling you that those guys are not credible intellectuals. Find the smartest person you know and ask them what they think of Newt, you don't have to trust me.
- james_tanner1

You seriously crack me up. You tell us how educated you are and then state that you don't decide and then state they're not credible intellectuals! How could they be, they support Trump!

If they had any self respect they would get out of the ghetto and get a job instead of settling for what the Dems give them. That ain't the answer. Every one should pull their own weight. Until that happens this country is doomed. And look what OBUMMA did to this country
- holeinone

for the 3rd time...

https://wallethub.com/edu...ernment/2700/#red-vs-blue



Every time you post your utterly false nonsense, Ima retort with these facts that show republican states receive far more gov handouts than dem states on average.
By quite a huge margin actually. And have much higher unemployment rates on average as well

I figured youdve taken another approach after the first couple times I pasted the link. But sure enough, back to the well!
Facts Be damned!! Good on ya bro

It is and really, that's the only reason I responded. When a state contributes $2.4 Trillion dollars a year I'm fine with them taking $30 billion here and there.
- Wetbandit1

That is exactly why OBUMMA doubled the deficit in his 8 years. Spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave and no real clue. What business or even government experience did he have. He hardly even attended and voted in Congress. He had a silver tongue with nothing to back it up. I could spend someone else's money too. Just do it and do not look back but that does not solve the problem when you get into debt.

Wow obama was in the military and a president at the same time? So Bush killed Sadam then right? That is not how it works bud. Neither of those Presidents came up with the plan or executed it. They just gave the go ahead to start to assault. Those millions of people he got healthcare are now clogging up the hospitals and causing rate hikes for the middle class. I am single and pay roughly $800 for health insurance a month. Before this crappy healthcare system i was at about $300.

I thought you said that the health care plan was Romney anyway?
- schizzy718

Literally yes, mostly. According to Article II, Section 2, Clause I of the Constitution, the President of the United States is “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”.

Obama had the guts to invade a sovereign country on a "50/50".

I know the Fake News media does not cover good things that Trump does but around the world he is making his mark. Unlike Obumma world leaders like Trump and the despised OBUMMA
- holeinone

I knew the dude behind this poster was just joking around

Well played sir

Like I said before and will say it again. There are so many Stupid people in the country and there is NO CURE FOR STUPID.

Literally yes, mostly. According to Article II, Section 2, Clause I of the Constitution, the President of the United States is “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”.

Obama had the guts to invade a sovereign country on a "50/50".
- Wetbandit1

All the President does is say its ok to go in there. He had no planning in the attack or anything like that. If you think it was a "50/50" than your thoughts on a president having any major impact on the military are explained for me.

Literally yes, mostly. According to Article II, Section 2, Clause I of the Constitution, the President of the United States is “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”.

Obama had the guts to invade a sovereign country on a "50/50".
- Wetbandit1

The only place Obumma invaded were the golf courses and he left so many divots they thought they were bombed once he left

The only place Obumma invaded were the golf courses and he left so many divots they thought they were bombed once he left
- holeinone

IDC what anyone's political thoughts are, this is quite funny.

Btw just to clarify, earlier I said I'm not a liberal, I'm also not conservative or a "righty".

If agnostic was a political party, that's where you would probably find me.
- Mordecai

You, me and 60%-70% of people.

I love how you have to be a commie because you don't want companies to dump straight into streams and rivers or you want to be able to see more than a 1/2 mile(just under a km for you Canadians).

Or if you want a strong military(modern society would be unrecognizable if it wasn't for the military industrial complex. That said, there are obviously limits. We don't need to spend $650B a year on it. I think they could more than get by on $600B lol) you have to be a fascist.

They're not interested in the best interests of their students. Their students don't pay dues. The teachers union is a perfect example of a union that needs to be neutered. To a point though, you don't want to give too much power to the municipalities where they have Walmart levels of control over their employees, but somewhere in the middle where no one truly has leverage and compromise is a must.
- Wetbandit1

This statement is simply offensive!!! As someone who works at both the secondary and the college level this statement is simply untrue. Most of the people I work with are hardworking and dedicated professionals who go the extra mile for their students. Blaming teachers for the failure of students is like blaming a dentist for their clients poor teeth. There are simply to many factors out of your control. (This is not even debatable, the research is overwhelming) Please do not confuse the politically motivated leadership of teacher unions with the actions of those of us that work hard every single day to make a difference in the lives of children.

That is exactly why OBUMMA doubled the deficit in his 8 years. Spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave and no real clue. What business or even government experience did he have. He hardly even attended and voted in Congress. He had a silver tongue with nothing to back it up. I could spend someone else's money too. Just do it and do not look back but that does not solve the problem when you get into debt.
- holeinone

Let's see, he took office in 2009. And reversed the nosedive created by greedy bankers and Wall Street (frank)s inside of 1 year and then made steady progress for 7 straight years.

This statement is simply offensive!!! As someone who works at both the secondary and the college level this statement is simply untrue. Most of the people I work with are hardworking and dedicated professionals who go the extra mile for their students. Blaming teachers for the failure of students is like blaming a dentist for their clients poor teeth. There are simply to many factors out of your control. (This is not even debatable, the research is overwhelming) Please do not confuse the politically motivated leadership of teacher unions with the actions of those of us that work hard every single day to make a difference in the lives of children.
- Brianandr1

I wasn't, in fact I was doing the opposite, saying that it's the union and their ever increasing hunger for political power that are to blame.

And 4 members of my immediate family are teachers with a combined 100+ years of teaching experience. Any union only has the interests of those paying dues in mind, and then, depending on how powerful they are, not even then. If every teacher had the best interests of students in mind then great, but they don't.

My family constantly female doges about how broken the whole thing is. And they teach/taught in suburban, relatively well off areas. I can't even imagine how bad it is in the cities.

NO but that idiot Shaq O'neill thinks it is and he is definately a Big time Liberal
- holeinone

He doesn't, it was a joke at how dumb Kyrie and a few others are.

Let's see, he took office in 2009. And reversed the nosedive created by greedy bankers and Wall Street (frank)s inside of 1 year and then made steady progress for 7 straight years.
- Wetbandit1

Solid effort to inject some facts to the debate, but as I mentioned earlier, Absolute waste of time with him

He'll look at it and just reply with some insane raving rant about handouts or liberals.

It's not Idiocy alone, it's a total blind commitment to an ideology and a system that he doesn't even fully understand. Those with the least education or knowledge are often the most fervent.
They worry me abit

All the President does is say its ok to go in there. He had no planning in the attack or anything like that. If you think it was a "50/50" than your thoughts on a president having any major impact on the military are explained for me.
- schizzy718

You're right, the president only gives the go/no go. But he is still Commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces, that means all the Generals down to every buck Private has to follow to his lawful orders.

The 50/50 was whether OBL was even there. They could not say for sure he was there. That's why they went in boots on the ground instead of a drone where they would never know for sure.

And I watched a TV show and a movie about it, so that imbues me with all the knowledge I need apparently.

I wasn't, in fact I was doing the opposite, saying that it's the union and their ever increasing hunger for political power that are to blame.

And 4 members of my immediate family are teachers with a combined 100+ years of teaching experience. Any union only has the interests of those paying dues in mind, and then, depending on how powerful they are, not even then. If every teacher had the best interests of students in mind then great, but they don't.

My family constantly female doges about how broken the whole thing is. And they teach/taught in suburban, relatively well off areas. I can't even imagine how bad it is in the cities.
- Wetbandit1

There is no question this is true. State run/ one sized fits all education models promote mediocrity at its worst. Its all politics and they don't have a clue. That being said: schools do not exist in a vacuum. They are representative of the larger society and its problems. Research tells us that the number one factor that contributes to the probability of a child succeeding or failing is the education level and value system of the primary provider. Number two is Socio-economics. There is no clear cut answer to these problems, however I can tell you for a fact that "privatizing schools for profit"...aka the majority of Charter schools is not the solution. Its simply a way of diverting tax dollars into corporate hands. Unions need to protect themselves from this neo-liberal garbage.

Politifact is funded by George Soros and Alberto Ibarguen, president and CEO of the Knight Foundation, one of PolitiFact’s largest contributors, donated $200,000 to support the 8th annual Clinton Global Initiative University meeting in February 2015.
Try again!
- arh777

If Tanner thinks Reagan and Obamma were the same politically, then he also thinks Soros is some right wing lunatic.