So JB says he wants a playing making center.

Who does that sound more out of Mittlestadt, Vilardi and Glass?!?
- Nuck4U

its been awhile since I watched footage so Im not sure who the better playmaker is but I think mittelstadt is the more talented, best shot etc of the 3

If I am Vegas I take McEneny. Defenseman with upside compared to the garbage being exposed by Canucks.
- Reubenkincade

Does he have a future in the NHL though? Likely not, whereas it's pretty easy to see Gaunce in a 4th line role for years

Do is right . You want Canucks to get rid of good contracts and good players for bad contracts and bad players and picks and prospects.

You can't shed if you are taking on the same salaries back
- VANTEL

He doesn't know what he wants which was my point. Every day he is on here demanding something different

Does he have a future in the NHL though? Likely not, whereas it's pretty easy to see Gaunce in a 4th line role for years
- NorthNuck

I'd be surprised if they don't take Gaunce

Do is right . You want Canucks to get rid of good contracts and good players for bad contracts and bad players and picks and prospects.

You can't shed if you are taking on the same salaries back
- VANTEL

Good contracts? I never said I want to get rid of good contracts, I'd want him to get rid of contracts like Sutter and Sbisa.

Edmonton needs a 3rd line center and Sutter is an Alberta wussy, send him home, take Mark Fayne back and get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for it...saves you a million bucks and it does the Oilers a favor. A win-win if you will.

Trade Sbisa for a 3rd round pick to or hope he gets taken by Vegas.

That's just an example of creative book keeping.

A concept which apparently flies over Donna's head???

I'd be surprised if they don't take Gaunce
- CanuckDon

During the season I thought it would be 100% Sbisa gone but I'm thinking now it could be either of the 2. Wouldn't be shocked either way

someone post that picture of a guy talking to a wall.
- LeftCoaster

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If I am Vegas I take McEneny. Defenseman with upside compared to the garbage being exposed by Canucks.
- Reubenkincade

I would think Vegas will talk to some UFAs before the expansion draft like Alzner Stattenkirk Del Zotto Russell

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- thundachunk[url] just how you like it.

You know that annoys me

Good contracts? I never said I want to get rid of good contracts, I'd want him to get rid of contracts like Sutter and Sbisa.

Edmonton needs a 3rd line center and Sutter is an Alberta wussy, send him home, take Mark Fayne back and get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for it...saves you a million bucks and it does the Oilers a favor. A win-win if you will.

Trade Sbisa for a 3rd round pick to or hope he gets taken by Vegas.

That's just an example of creative book keeping.

A concept which apparently flies over Donna's head???
- LeftCoaster

Who is paying a 3rd for Sbisa? why don't we give Edmonton a 3rd to take Sbisa off our hands and then take Niemis contract in exchange for a 3rd

We are stuck with any of our bad contracts....it is what it is

Does he have a future in the NHL though? Likely not, whereas it's pretty easy to see Gaunce in a 4th line role for years
- NorthNuck

I can see Gaunce also. I was just trying to get people to stop fantasizing about Sbisa/Dorsett being claimed. Also Vegas can afford to take a gamble on a few players like McEneny, as they don't have to worry about trying to fill up a farm team, so I expect to see them flipping a few older assets and try get a nice mix of youth and vets in lineup.

Who is paying a 3rd for Sbisa? why don't we give Edmonton a 3rd to take Sbisa off our hands and then take Niemis contract in exchange for a 3rd

We are stuck with any of our bad contracts....it is what it is
- CanuckDon

A better manager could find a way....that's the point. It's not impossible, as you make it out to be.

BTW....Arizona had a terrible defense last year, they may take a flier on Sbisa, they took a chance on Luke Schenn.

I can see Gaunce also. I was just trying to get people to stop fantasizing about Sbisa/Dorsett being claimed. Also Vegas can afford to take a gamble on a few players like McEneny, as they don't have to worry about trying to fill up a farm team, so I expect to see them flipping a few older assets and try get a nice mix of youth and vets in lineup.
- Reubenkincade

Vancouver has crap to offer and Gaunce is the youngest. Before the season I thought Rodin might be one they would target but since he played 3 games, I am sure they will pass

A better manager could find a way....that's the point. It's not impossible, as you make it out to be.

BTW....Arizona had a terrible defense last year, they may take a flier on Sbisa, they took a chance on Luke Schenn.
- LeftCoaster

They could probably trade Sutter but they love the guy. Most of our bad contracts are almost over...Sedins etc. Erickson we are stuck with

Good contracts? I never said I want to get rid of good contracts, I'd want him to get rid of contracts like Sutter and Sbisa.

Edmonton needs a 3rd line center and Sutter is an Alberta wussy, send him home, take Mark Fayne back and get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for it...saves you a million bucks and it does the Oilers a favor. A win-win if you will.

Trade Sbisa for a 3rd round pick to or hope he gets taken by Vegas.

That's just an example of creative book keeping.

A concept which apparently flies over Donna's head???
- LeftCoaster

I think you can wipe out about 80 % of teams wanting to talk Sbisa and his salary. Maybe at TDL but it is a lot of money for what he brings and on top of that teams need to protect 3 D . At the draft maybe but most teams don't even know who he is.

I think Benning likes Sutter and will use him as a leader when the twins go for two more years.

The only real tradable ones are Hutton and Tanev. Edler if he waived but I won't hold my breath.

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I think you can wipe out about 80 % of teams wanting to talk Sbisa and his salary. Maybe at TDL but it is a lot of money for what he brings and on top of that teams need to protect 3 D . At the draft maybe but most teams don't even know who he is.

I think Benning likes Sutter and will use him as a leader when the twins go for two more years.

The only real tradable ones are Hutton and Tanev. Edler if he waived but I won't hold my breath.
- VANTEL

Sbisa had great season last year.

They could probably trade Sutter but they love the guy. Most of our bad contracts are almost over...Sedins etc. Erickson we are stuck with
- CanuckDon

We're talking about what should happen, not what will happen. If the Canucks had good managers they'd trade Sutter, his 4+ million dollar salary has helped the team finish 2nd and 3rd last in the past two years. He's a decent third line center on a much better team but he's crap for the Canucks.

Sbisa had great season last year.
- thundachunk

Great by his standards , decent by league standards .

We're talking about what should happen, not what will happen. If the Canucks had good managers they'd trade Sutter, his 4+ million dollar salary has helped the team finish 2nd and 3rd last in the past two years. He's a decent third line center on a much better team but he's crap for the Canucks.
- LeftCoaster

Yes it was Sutters (the third line centers ) fault

Yes it was Sutters (the third line centers ) fault
- VANTEL

Where did I say it was his fault? I simply said he's not helping.

I highly doubt JB is calling those teams because those teams would tell JB to f*ck off. Teams don't want to disclose who they are going after. It wouldn't be beneficial to them.
- Codes1087

GMs do talk about that stuff...thats why they arrange fishing trips etc
Sometimes they arent honest though either.
When burke drafted the sedins he told Atlanta he wanted Stephan badly, it was a ploy so he wouldnt take a sedin with the #1oa. Sure enough atlanta picked Stephan 1oa leaving both sedins for 2 &3oa.

Where did I say it was his fault? I simply said he's not helping.
- LeftCoaster

No you did not simply say that.

No you did not simply say that.
- fry

Yes I did...

Where did I say it was his fault? I tried to imply he's not helping.
- LeftCoaster

Fixed.

Where did I say it was his fault? I simply said he's not helping.
- LeftCoaster

No body is helping. We finished 24 th when Sutter wasn't here or Gudbrandson.

This is a bad team that has been free falling since 2012 . Players leave here and flourish and good players come here and suffocate.

Torts said it best , this a a stale team that needs a change . They have changed some personnel but the style is the same.

There are so many bad things about this team itis like trying to plug a Swiss Cheese dyke.