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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
Agreed. But you may be a several step process.

Trade jvr for picks/prospects
Trade picks/prospects for a dman.
Sign a UFA forward to replace jvr.

Seems like you can find decent wingers on the ufa market much more easily than dmen.

- Tumbleweed



Sure. However you want to do it. I don’t think it’s wise to just ignore free agency altogether though. Don’t go nuts, but there some good signings. It’s not like every single one is a failure.

successful teams find value in every stream they can.
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

May 2 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yes, trades I can see for sure.
- fifty__missions

I have a feeling they won't be opposed to trading their 1st in this draft either if it means bringing back the right defenseman.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

May 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
Agreed. But you may be a several step process.

Trade jvr for picks/prospects
Trade picks/prospects for a dman.
Sign a UFA forward to replace jvr.

Seems like you can find decent wingers on the ufa market much more easily than dmen.

- Tumbleweed


TJ Oshie?

Plus we have, without JVR,

Kapanen
Sosh
Komarov
Hyman
Rychel
and a few others marinating.

I wouldn't mind seeing

Oshie, Matthews, Nylander
Kapanen, Bozak, Marner
Komarov, Kadri, Brown
Rychel, Boyle, Hyman

Rielly, Manson
Gardiner, Zaitsev
Nelson, Stone
Polak

Trade JVR for pics/prospects or for Manson.
Pick up Oshie and Stone as UFAs.
Add one D rookie in Nelson.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
I think the Leafs should trade away some players that they think they could probably go without going forward, in exchange for a player or players that they think will improve the team.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
Montreal is in that position imo. They need to ante up and put their chips on the table and go for it with Price/Weber right now. If I were Bergevin, I'd be going after Duchesne this summer and trading picks, prospects and youth to finally get some punch into that lineup.
- fifty__missions


The Subban for Weber trade made everyone (myself included) that the Habs were "going for it" this year and the next few years.

But by refusing to trade away draft picks to acquire a true number one centre (Duchene, as you stated, should have been a prime target) he decided to stay put, refusing to trade away the future.

Plus, if you hear the way he talked after the season, Bergevin seems to think the Habs have a chance to win the cup as long as Price is in net.... even when alot more money is involved in him and Pacioretty.

So I'm not sure what to think anymore.... I think this summer will tell us alot of where this team is going. If it remains the same, without addressing it's offensive issues.... I'm gonna lose faith in Bergevin having an actual plan for the Habs.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 2 @ 3:10 PM ET
Sure. However you want to do it. I don’t think it’s wise to just ignore free agency altogether though. Don’t go nuts, but there some good signings. It’s not like every single one is a failure.

successful teams find value in every stream they can.

- prock


Just like Trump
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 2 @ 3:10 PM ET
I think the Leafs should trade away some players that they think they could probably go without going forward, in exchange for a player or players that they think will improve the team.
- TheMussel


How are you still without an NHL job?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 2 @ 3:12 PM ET
How are you still without an NHL job?
- Scabeh


I have an NHL job. I don't really want to give away my identity but you can call me JB, GM of the Van...


I've said too much.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 2 @ 3:15 PM ET
I have an NHL job. I don't really want to give away my identity but you can call me JB, GM of the Van...


I've said too much.

- TheMussel


prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
Just like Trump
- TheMussel



I"m not quite sure what you're referring to.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
TJ Oshie?

Plus we have, without JVR,

Kapanen
Sosh
Komarov
Hyman
Rychel
and a few others marinating.

I wouldn't mind seeing

Oshie, Matthews, Nylander
Kapanen, Bozak, Marner
Komarov, Kadri, Brown
Rychel, Boyle, Hyman

Rielly, Manson
Gardiner, Zaitsev
Nelson, Stone
Polak

Trade JVR for pics/prospects or for Manson.
Pick up Oshie and Stone as UFAs.
Add one D rookie in Nelson.

- underhill14


I think oshie could look good on matthews wing. There are a couple khl ufa wingers. Or kovolchuk

Stone sucks



TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 2 @ 3:17 PM ET
I"m not quite sure what you're referring to.
- prock


Something something hotel room in moscow
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

May 2 @ 3:22 PM ET
I think oshie could look good on matthews wing. There are a couple khl ufa wingers. Or kovolchuk

Stone sucks

- Tumbleweed


The current status of the NHL and the Olympics might push back some of those KHL guys another year. I'd love them to take another flyer on a Russian d-man though.

Stone isn't that good, but he's an upgrade over Marincin and Marchenko
Interloper
Seattle Kraken
Location: NotWelcomeHere, NE
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 2 @ 3:24 PM ET


Hey Bruce, Lou... wanna delete this interloper's post?

- lumlums


Did someone call my name
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
I have an NHL job. I don't really want to give away my identity but you can call me JB, GM of the Van...


I've said too much.

- TheMussel


Lou: lockups his khl dman to a 7 year deal


Benning: sits around and watches his khl dman sign for 3 years in the khl
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 2 @ 3:27 PM ET
I think oshie could look good on matthews wing. There are a couple khl ufa wingers. Or kovolchuk

Stone sucks

- Tumbleweed

Fack Kovalchuk...he's friggin old and not that great.
Oshie will be expensive.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 2 @ 3:28 PM ET
So I'm guessing they didn't want to lose Martin to Vegas hence the Smith signing.



Interloper
Seattle Kraken
Location: NotWelcomeHere, NE
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 2 @ 3:28 PM ET

- winsix


Rainbow butt monkey!
Interloper
Seattle Kraken
Location: NotWelcomeHere, NE
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 2 @ 3:31 PM ET
The Subban for Weber trade made everyone (myself included) that the Habs were "going for it" this year and the next few years.

But by refusing to trade away draft picks to acquire a true number one centre (Duchene, as you stated, should have been a prime target) he decided to stay put, refusing to trade away the future.

Plus, if you hear the way he talked after the season, Bergevin seems to think the Habs have a chance to win the cup as long as Price is in net.... even when alot more money is involved in him and Pacioretty.

So I'm not sure what to think anymore.... I think this summer will tell us alot of where this team is going. If it remains the same, without addressing it's offensive issues.... I'm gonna lose faith in Bergevin having an actual plan for the Habs.

- Scabeh


I am not sure the Habs had or have anything that Colorado wants for Duchene. Other teams would come up with better offers.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

May 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
I think oshie could look good on matthews wing. There are a couple khl ufa wingers. Or kovolchuk

Stone sucks

- Tumbleweed


Aw poop, thought Stone was a good RD. Alzner or Kulikov maybe?

I guess the point is....we have a lot of options.

Every time I try to think of a line up, I realize I forget good players who could kill it for us. Forgot Sosh and Leivo in that last line up.

Between JVR, Sosh, Leivo, Kapanen, Brown, Hyman, Rychel, Andreas Johnsson, Leipsic, Engvel, Timashov........there should be something there to get a D without feeling any loss. That's not even including a draft pick here or there.

Nice feeling for a change.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
I am not sure the Habs had or have anything that Colorado wants for Duchene. Other teams would come up with better offers.
- Interloper


Seems like galchenyuk would have to go the other way
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 2 @ 3:34 PM ET
Fack Kovalchuk...he's friggin old and not that great.
Oshie will be expensive.

- Fakepartofme


Kovy was great


I think he still has a couple good years left on the tank


I hear ya on oshie
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 2 @ 3:35 PM ET
Seems like galchenyuk would have to go the other way
- Tumbleweed



I was thinking that too....Galy and a pick or prospect.

PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

May 2 @ 3:36 PM ET
I was thinking that too....Galy and a pick or prospect.
- Garnie

I was thinking of that exact trade. Doesn't Colorado want D though?
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

May 2 @ 3:36 PM ET
Seems like galchenyuk would have to go the other way
- Tumbleweed


I'm not sure if another young-ish, inconsistent centre who has difficulties in his own end is what the Avs would want?
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