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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 8:41 PM ET
Losers the NHL lotto 2 years running - Check

Losing a blue chip prospect to KHL - Check

What's the plan going into the summer selling the Canuck's brand? What does the team offer the loyal fan base?

The draft is in two months, two months of nothing to sell except future hope. This team will be battling apathy for the next few years.

- VanHockeyGuy


Don't let anyone buy a motorcycle.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 1 @ 8:41 PM ET
Acquiring draft picks would be considered to me "rebuilding".
"Tanking" attempting to suck for a purpose.
The two things basically go hand in hand. Still seperate though.

- manvanfan


Correct they are separate. Just Consider this on hand in hand for rebuilding.

A Draftist model is to rebuild through the draft. That means you need picks to do that. You don't have to necessarily accumulate extra picks. But don't trade away your own to achieve it.

Tanking as you are correct on is the plan to suck. To bottom out. The purpose to get that top pick.

The lotto really on draft position sours tanking but allows the Draftist approach to still work. As in you can rebuild your team through the draft but not plan to bottom out and let the chips fall where they may. The lotto ticket gives a fair chance to get a top pick.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 1 @ 8:43 PM ET
Should make videos of the players in training.
Have already started selling the "rebuild". The word was finally mentioned. Expect nothing but another chance to drop some more spots in 2018 and 2019.

- manvanfan


Essentially the Canuck's will be showing up at camp with a young stars roster and a few player coaches/teachers once the season starts. As long as they work hard I guess that's all we can expect.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 1 @ 8:43 PM ET
Don't let anyone buy a motorcycle.
- bloatedmosquito


RIP. Black humor.

Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

May 1 @ 8:45 PM ET
Another reason to not draft Mittelstadt. IF he does stay all 4 years in College, could possibly will the Hobby Baker award.

Rumblings out of Avs land they are trying to sign this years Hobby Baker winner Will Butcher but haven't come to terms yet and strong possibility it isn't going to happen. 2 Hobby Baker winners in a row to screw NHL teams.

- manvanfan


Out of all the kids that go the college route that are drafted, how many stay a full 4 yrs and become free agents? I'm probably wrong but the only 2 I can remember are Justin Schultz and Vessey. Odds are still better that they sign with the team that drafted them.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 8:46 PM ET
Essentially the Canuck's will be showing up at camp with a young stars roster and a few player coaches/teachers once the season starts. As long as they work hard I guess that's all we can expect.
- VanHockeyGuy

I personally expect Utica to be the top team in the league will the likes of Boeser, Goldobin, Brisebois, Dahlen, Virtanen, Carcone, Subban, Demko all playing for them.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 1 @ 8:46 PM ET
Essentially the Canuck's will be showing up at camp with a young stars roster and a few player coaches/teachers once the season starts. As long as they work hard I guess that's all we can expect.
- VanHockeyGuy


Yup. Rebuilds are hard. But you don't know how the development fairs. Surprises like Granlund come about. Same with other prospects. That's the stimulus.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 8:47 PM ET
Out of all the kids that go the college route that are drafted, how many stay a full 4 yrs and become free agents? I'm probably wrong but the only 2 I can remember are Justin Schultz and Vessey. Odds are still better that they sign with the team that drafted them.
- Kaynine

You must have missed the rumour the other day that Mittelstadt or someone who knows him, that he plans on staying 4 years in college.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 1 @ 8:47 PM ET
I think the refs got it wrong on Niskanen.
- manvanfan


Don't tell the Pittsburgh thread that, they're real sensitive right now
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 8:48 PM ET
RIP. Black humor.
- Nuck4U


It does say something about this franchise. It can't catch a break.

Bad karma from the Bure trickery.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 8:48 PM ET
Don't tell the Pittsburgh thread that, they're real sensitive right now
- NewYorkNuck

I'll stay away.

I didn't think that was a goal either. Embarrassing that the refs had to say it was a good goal before the coaches challenge. Should have went to Trotz and said we have a good goal do you want to challenge.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 8:49 PM ET
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

May 1 @ 8:50 PM ET
You must have missed the rumour the other day that Mittelstadt or someone who knows him, that he plans on staying 4 years in college.
- manvanfan


I did, well that's just stupid on his part. Why would he be so dumb and say that out loud
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 8:51 PM ET
I did, well that's just stupid on his part. Why would he be so dumb and say that out loud
- Kaynine

I don't know the whole rumour or who said it or if it's true or anything. Something JB and TL will find out when they interview him.

He may be a goofy moron who knows.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 8:52 PM ET
I did, well that's just stupid on his part. Why would he be so dumb and say that out loud
- Kaynine


Because if he drops in the draft he plays for a better team? A team that doesn't need his services right away.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 1 @ 8:53 PM ET
I'll stay away.

I didn't think that was a goal either. Embarrassing that the refs had to say it was a good goal before the coaches challenge. Should have went to Trotz and said we have a good goal do you want to challenge.

- manvanfan


Ya that was pretty bad having to come back out and reverse the call, but I think they've done a good job tonight. It's funny reading through and seeing how much they think they're getting screwed with calls/noncalls. Super whiney, it's weird.

I went in just to talk about the call, and they turned on me. This was my fave:

Go Away! Out best player and captain is knocked out and you keep arguing on some damn technicality. GO AWAY!!!
- powerhouse[/img]
You are not welcome here, ever!


"I'm taking my ball and going home!"
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

May 1 @ 8:54 PM ET
Because if he drops in the draft he plays for a better team? A team that doesn't need his services right away.
- bloatedmosquito


And by the time he's ready that team could sh!t
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 8:57 PM ET
Ya that was pretty bad having to come back out and reverse the call, but I think they've done a good job tonight. It's funny reading through and seeing how much they think they're getting screwed with calls/noncalls. Super whiney, it's weird.

I went in just to talk about the call, and they turned on me. This was my fave:



"I'm taking my ball and going home!"

- NewYorkNuck


Even Crosby doesn't whine that much anymore.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 8:58 PM ET
Because if he drops in the draft he plays for a better team? A team that doesn't need his services right away.
- bloatedmosquito

Or he can just wait 4 years and choose whatever team he wants.

Then JV has matured and welcomes him to the league with a thunderous open ice hit that knocks him out cold.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 1 @ 9:00 PM ET
Yup. Rebuilds are hard. But you don't know how the development fairs. Surprises like Granlund come about. Same with other prospects. That's the stimulus.
- Nuck4U


Especially when fans follow multiple sports (NFL, PGA etc) like several do on this thread.

Apathy.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 9:01 PM ET
And by the time he's ready that team could sh!t
- Kaynine


That's a good question. What teams that are good now will be poop in 3 to 4 seasons?

I don't buy that Chi will be that bad in three seasons but I could see Montreal, NY Rangers, and maybe Anaheim.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 9:03 PM ET
Especially when fans follow multiple sports (NFL, PGA etc) like several do on this thread.

Apathy.

- VanHockeyGuy

Rest of my teams kind of middle of the pack right now. I'm due to have another championship soon though. Or come close to one.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 9:04 PM ET
That's a good question. What teams that are good now will be poop in 3 to 4 seasons?

I don't buy that Chi will be that bad in three seasons but I could see Montreal, NY Rangers, and maybe Anaheim.

- bloatedmosquito

OR like I said, he could just wait 4 years and choose any team he wants.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 9:05 PM ET
Especially when fans follow multiple sports (NFL, PGA etc) like several do on this thread.

Apathy.

- VanHockeyGuy


Not really. But has there been any movement by JB and gang that can get you excited about this rebuild? Brock Boeser? There's only so much circle jerking you can do over Brock. We need more.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 9:07 PM ET
OR like I said, he could just wait 4 years and choose any team he wants.
- manvanfan


Yes, but not many have pulled that stunt. That rep sticks to you through your career. Not a good way to start it by shafting the team that drafts you.
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