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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 2:03 PM ET
i'm not counting them out. move out 1 contract and they have room for him. Seems like he wants to be in the area if rumblings are true.

And until we prove they are not, the rangers are the premiere destination for free agents.

- Tumbleweed


Its true historically - but the whispers are that Nash is going to Vegas, if that's the case, I'm not so sure they will want to spend on defense. I guess they could put together an offence with the centerpiece being Jimmy Vesey - just not sure.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
Possibly true but irrelevant. They have much bigger needs at forward - particularly true when you consider Nash is a UFA after next season and likely will be exposed to Vegas. Even without Nash's salary they have over $55M tied up - their interest in Shat will be minimal.
- winsix



How is that irrelevant? That's one-third of their D-core.

The Rangers likely already have their replacement for Nash, in Pavel Buchnevich
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 28 @ 2:20 PM ET
Glad to hear some people in the media and hockey world calling out the Sens fan base for the empty seats last night. I started watching during the national anthem, they showed the stands and I saw lots of empty seats and thought, "huh, that's funny, people must be out getting concession food or something, I'm sure they will be filled when the game starts..."

Totally Embarrassing for that franchise. Its the second round and they can't sell out?
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
Glad to hear some people in the media and hockey world calling out the Sens fan base for the empty seats last night. I started watching during the national anthem, they showed the stands and I saw lots of empty seats and thought, "huh, that's funny, people must be out getting concession food or something, I'm sure they will be filled when the game starts..."

Totally Embarrassing for that franchise. Its the second round and they can't sell out?

- Hockey_Reverend


The excuses in the comments after TSN commented on it:

"Hope everyone knows CTC is not exactly in Ottawa... its like 30mins out of Ottawa. So that can be why it may be unattractive to go to the game."

"The problem is it is waaaaay more fun to watch the game at a pub on Elgin Street and $260 makes you King of the World on the Sens Mile. Get an arena in the city and you'll see the difference in attendance."

"Listen stop the guilt. Ottawa is a government town that is minuscule compared to Toronto or Montreal. The people here are hurting financially. People are doing all they can to stay afloat. It's not that they don't want to see their team or support them. It's that they don't want to lose their home."

"Consider the hassle of getting out there, the price of a ticket, and the fact that unlike most canadian teams, playoffs success is an actual benchmark we can relate to on a yearly basis.. don't blame the fans, the sens are a playoff franchise and have been for over a decade now. We just don't give much hype to game 1's as much as we do to more deciding games."
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
How is that irrelevant? That's one-third of their D-core.

The Rangers likely already have their replacement for Nash, in Pavel Buchnevich

- PatC80



I get it now. Buchnevich a 75th overall pick that managed all of 20 points in his first 41 games as a 22 year old rookie is going to replace a number one centre. Makes perfect sense.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Apr 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
The excuses in the comments after TSN commented on it:

"Hope everyone knows CTC is not exactly in Ottawa... its like 30mins out of Ottawa. So that can be why it may be unattractive to go to the game."

"The problem is it is waaaaay more fun to watch the game at a pub on Elgin Street and $260 makes you King of the World on the Sens Mile. Get an arena in the city and you'll see the difference in attendance."

"Listen stop the guilt. Ottawa is a government town that is minuscule compared to Toronto or Montreal. The people here are hurting financially. People are doing all they can to stay afloat. It's not that they don't want to see their team or support them. It's that they don't want to lose their home."

"Consider the hassle of getting out there, the price of a ticket, and the fact that unlike most canadian teams, playoffs success is an actual benchmark we can relate to on a yearly basis.. don't blame the fans, the sens are a playoff franchise and have been for over a decade now. We just don't give much hype to game 1's as much as we do to more deciding games."

- markmark


Ottawa is filled with politicians and some soft ass female doges.

What do you expect.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
Ottawa is filled with politicians and some soft ass female doges.

What do you expect.

- Bigzby


them not to have a team then...
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 28 @ 2:57 PM ET
I get it now. Buchnevich a 75th overall pick that managed all of 20 points in his first 41 games as a 22 year old rookie is going to replace a number one centre. Makes perfect sense.
- winsix



Nash is not a center, and Buchnevich has not yet played a full NHL season..

Buchnevich has the potential to be a legit scoring winger in the NHL
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:01 PM ET
I get it now. Buchnevich a 75th overall pick that managed all of 20 points in his first 41 games as a 22 year old rookie is going to replace a number one centre. Makes perfect sense.
- winsix


Pretty sure Stepan is the number one centre...
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:01 PM ET
them not to have a team then...
- markmark


I'm hoping they go where they should have originally.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
Nash is not a center, and Buchnevich has not yet played a full NHL season..

Buchnevich has the potential to be a legit scoring winger in the NHL

- PatC80


Nash is a first line forward on a good team. Buchenvich is an ex KHL maybe that has the potential to score 60 points in the league some day if he is paired with significant talent. Not a grade A prospect by any standard. A comparable might be Connor Brown, certainly a useful player - not a centerpiece to any respectable offence.

TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Apr 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
Sens can't sell out games it's too far our of the way? (frank) here in alberta my buddy's are driving 5 hours to edmonton and spending cash on hotel rooms and poop to see the oilers. Get some real fans you loser sens . (frank) I'd fly to Toronto for a game in the playoffs if i had money and dart guys beard. Show some pride in your team (frank).
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 3:04 PM ET
Pretty sure Stepan is the number one centre...
- Scabeh


my bad
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 3:07 PM ET
Sens can't sell out games it's too far our of the way? (frank) here in alberta my buddy's are driving 5 hours to edmonton and spending cash on hotel rooms and poop to see the oilers. Get some real fans you loser sens . (frank) I'd fly to Toronto for a game in the playoffs if i had money and dart guys beard. Show some pride in your team (frank).
- TonkaPhaneuf

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
Its true historically - but the whispers are that Nash is going to Vegas, if that's the case, I'm not so sure they will want to spend on defense. I guess they could put together an offence with the centerpiece being Jimmy Vesey - just not sure.
- winsix


Lupul, lindberg for nash, 2.8m retained
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 3:14 PM ET
Lupul, lindberg for nash, 2.8m retained
- Tumbleweed

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
Nash is a first line forward on a good team. Buchenvich is an ex KHL maybe that has the potential to score 60 points in the league some day if he is paired with significant talent. Not a grade A prospect by any standard. A comparable might be Connor Brown, certainly a useful player - not a centerpiece to any respectable offence.


- winsix




Clearly, you don't know hockey..

Nash has not scored 60+ points since 2014-15 season. Only once in the last 6 years. This year Nash has 38 points in 67 games. Is he still a legit #1 winger?

using your logic, if Buchnevich gets 60 next season, that makes him better than Rick Nash.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 28 @ 3:18 PM ET

- winsix


?

Nash is not waiving for vegas. Nobody wants to play for a loser.

Rags can ltir lupul and create cap space for shattenkirk.

Maybe the leafs add a 2nd, but the rags aren't getting much in a trade for a 40 point 7.8m winger.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:20 PM ET
on his one year deal, i don't him bringing back a proven top 4 dman. fowler's contract matches up, but after this year, i think the ducks are probably more interested in keeping fowler than moving him.

oshie/kovy/khl free agents is where i look to replace jvr.

- Tumbleweed

It would be JVR plus.
Yes, it wont be fowler.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 3:40 PM ET
Clearly, you don't know hockey..

Nash has not scored 60+ points since 2014-15 season. Only once in the last 6 years. This year Nash has 38 points in 67 games. Is he still a legit #1 winger?

using your logic, if Buchnevich gets 60 next season, that makes him better than Rick Nash.

- PatC80


Nash only has 771 points in 989 games. For a top pick, he's under performed for sure, but still over .7 points a game for his career. Buchnevich is a 75th pick that is a longshot at best to be a top performer - Clearly your ridiculous and unfounded assumption that a KHL journeyman will be a top performer is an indication of your disregard for track record. If you said Nash is past it, and will never be an elite forward again, it might accurate, we will have to wait and see. Thanks for the bolded statement. It is unfortunate when a fellow leaf fan lowers himself to insult another - but judging from the intellectual level of your avatar - your intellectual bank account is empty.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:41 PM ET
?

Nash is not waiving for vegas. Nobody wants to play for a loser.

Rags can ltir lupul and create cap space for shattenkirk.

Maybe the leafs add a 2nd, but the rags aren't getting much in a trade for a 40 point 7.8m winger.

- Tumbleweed



no movement clauses need to be protected
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 3:43 PM ET
?

Nash is not waiving for vegas. Nobody wants to play for a loser.

Rags can ltir lupul and create cap space for shattenkirk.

Maybe the leafs add a 2nd, but the rags aren't getting much in a trade for a 40 point 7.8m winger.

- Tumbleweed


He would be solid imo, don't think he fits the plan though, honestly, will not be many takers for his level of salary/performance. Can't see the Rags going for Shattenkirk with what they have on the blueline now, but stranger things have happened.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:49 PM ET
Nash only has 771 points in 989 games. For a top pick, he's under performed for sure, but still over .7 points a game for his career. Buchnevich is a 75th pick that is a longshot at best to be a top performer - Clearly your ridiculous and unfounded assumption that a KHL journeyman will be a top performer is an indication of your disregard for track record. If you said Nash is past it, and will never be an elite forward again, it might accurate, we will have to wait and see. Thanks for the bolded statement. It is unfortunate when a fellow leaf fan lowers himself to insult another - but judging from the intellectual level of your avatar - your intellectual bank account is empty.
- winsix



Were you not the first to take a shot with that GIF you shared?

In Nash's rookie season he averaged 0.52 PPG
In Buchnevich's rookie season he averaged 0.48 PPG

Or do you think its fair to compare 989 games played to 41?

Not that big of a difference
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:55 PM ET
Nash is a first line forward on a good team. Buchenvich is an ex KHL maybe that has the potential to score 60 points in the league some day if he is paired with significant talent. Not a grade A prospect by any standard. A comparable might be Connor Brown, certainly a useful player - not a centerpiece to any respectable offence.

- winsix


Considering the very limited role in which Vigneault used Buchenvich this season, and from what I saw in the playoffs vs the Habs.

He's going to be a pretty good player for the Rangers. Can't say about him reaching 60 points but it's not impossible I guess.

Oh and Nash's production is a shadow of what it used to be. But the Rangers are stuck with him because of his NMC (Which I don't see him waive to go to a (frank)ing expansion team that will suck for a few years).
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 28 @ 3:55 PM ET
Were you not the first to take a shot with that GIF you shared?

In Nash's rookie season he averaged 0.52 PPG
In Buchnevich's rookie season he averaged 0.48 PPG

Not that big of a difference

- PatC80


Not at all the same. Gif was not personal, you could say it was a poor attempt at humor, however, I did not make a general statement about you in the least. If you say, I disagree with you, I believe you are incorrect - that is ok. Referring to someone's knowledge, intellect or ability in general terms is something completely different.
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