I am just sick of the haters mentioning Bob anytime a Flyers goalie gives up a goal. It's just stupid. Especially when you actually look at Mason's numbers. Mason is 1 of 18 goalies to play in over 200 games since 2013-2014. He is 11th in save% and 13th in GAA. He was actually ahead of Bob in both categories since 2013-2014 coming into this season.
- mickel25

Agree 100%
Mason, for his career in Philly, was one of the better goalies to play here, especially during the last 20 years. In fact, I'd rate him only behind Cechmanek if I was ranking Flyers goalies of the last 20 years.

Hmm....

Ok, here are my top ten Flyers goalies of the last 20 years:
(of course none of these guys belong in the same conversation as Parent, Lindbergh and the 80s version of Ron Hextall!)

Honorable mentions:
Beezer and Neuvy

10. Bryzgalov
Hell, he deserves to be on the list just for his interviews. Perfect example of a guy who put up great numbers because he played behind a great D system. His numbers were solid for the most part in Philly and, at times, he was spectacular, but in the end, his signing will go down as a major screw up.

9. Ray Emery
A true warrior, who will ever forget him pounding on a terrified Holtby, LOL! It's a shame he couldn't have stayed healthy in 09-10. A 100% Emery could have very well led us to a Cup.

8. Michael Leighton
Had one hell of a run in the 2010 playoffs, at least until game 6.

7. Antero Nittymaki
Nitty was another guy hampered by injuries. His dominance of the Thrashers though was just freakish.

6. Bobrovsky
He showed a ton of promise, but Lavi bailing on him and then Snider demanding a free agent signing pretty much ended his time here. Yeah, they (frank)ed up with Bob, but it's water under the bridge now, so move on.

5. Robert Esche
"Silent Bob" was just a flat out horse for the Flyers in the 03-04 playoffs as he and Keith Primeau basically kept the injury depleted team afloat for 3 rounds. If they had just had one more healthy Dman.....


4. Brian Boucher
Boucher had an amazing start to his career in 99-00 and looked like the next great Flyers goalie. However he had a tough sophomore slump in 00-01 and lost his starting job to Cechmanek that season. Immaturity was his downfall during his first stint in orange and black, but when he returned years later, he was always a class act and veteran leader. And, of course, who can ever forget him out dueling CSP in the shootout in 2010 and the great work he did in the playoffs that year.

3. Marty Biron
Biron came aboard during the season from hell, and provided badly needed stability in goal. He was fantastic for much of the 07-08 season and playoffs and was always a class act. He wasn't the most talented goalie on this list, but he provided the Flyers with solid goaltending night in and night out at a time when they very badly needed it.

2. Steve Mason
Mase gets a bad rap from a lot of folks around here, but if you look at his numbers since coming to Philly he has really done a fantastic job while spending much of his time playing behind an average to mediocre group of Dmen. I hope the guy they end up replacing him with can do as well.

1. Roman Cechmanek
Cecho was a bit nutty to say the least, I mean the guy actively looked to stop shots with his freaking head!! However, when you look at the numbers, he is by far, the best goalie on this list. The Flyers had all kinds of problems from 2000-2002, but the quality of Cechmanek's play wasn't one of them. Sadly, his tendency to throw his teammates under the bus was.

Well, that's it. Let the criticism and complaints begin!

do you actually say frank IRL? also, I agree
- YuenglingJagr

lol, yes, quite often I do (thanks HB)

lol, yes, quite often I do (thanks HB)
- Scoob

Haha, I do too. I also say frak a lot as well which is due to watching too much Battlestar Galatica (both the cheesy original and the very well done version of a few years back)

Agree 100%
Mason, for his career in Philly, was one of the better goalies to play here, especially during the last 20 years. In fact, I'd rate him only behind Cechmanek if I was ranking Flyers goalies of the last 20 years.

Hmm....

Ok, here are my top ten Flyers goalies of the last 20 years:
(of course none of these guys belong in the same conversation as Parent, Lindbergh and the 80s version of Ron Hextall!)

Honorable mentions:
Beezer and Neuvy

10. Bryzgalov
Hell, he deserves to be on the list just for his interviews. Perfect example of a guy who put up great numbers because he played behind a great D system. His numbers were solid for the most part in Philly and, at times, he was spectacular, but in the end, his signing will go down as a major screw up.

9. Ray Emery
A true warrior, who will ever forget him pounding on a terrified Holtby, LOL! It's a shame he couldn't have stayed healthy in 09-10. A 100% Emery could have very well led us to a Cup.

8. Michael Leighton
Had one hell of a run in the 2010 playoffs, at least until game 6.

7. Antero Nittymaki
Nitty was another guy hampered by injuries. His dominance of the Thrashers though was just freakish.

6. Bobrovsky
He showed a ton of promise, but Lavi bailing on him and then Snider demanding a free agent signing pretty much ended his time here. Yeah, they (frank)ed up with Bob, but it's water under the bridge now, so move on.

5. Robert Esche
"Silent Bob" was just a flat out horse for the Flyers in the 03-04 playoffs as he and Keith Primeau basically kept the injury depleted team afloat for 3 rounds. If they had just had one more healthy Dman.....


4. Brian Boucher
Boucher had an amazing start to his career in 99-00 and looked like the next great Flyers goalie. However he had a tough sophomore slump in 00-01 and lost his starting job to Cechmanek that season. Immaturity was his downfall during his first stint in orange and black, but when he returned years later, he was always a class act and veteran leader. And, of course, who can ever forget him out dueling CSP in the shootout in 2010 and the great work he did in the playoffs that year.

3. Marty Biron
Biron came aboard during the season from hell, and provided badly needed stability in goal. He was fantastic for much of the 07-08 season and playoffs and was always a class act. He wasn't the most talented goalie on this list, but he provided the Flyers with solid goaltending night in and night out at a time when they very badly needed it.

2. Steve Mason
Mase gets a bad rap from a lot of folks around here, but if you look at his numbers since coming to Philly he has really done a fantastic job while spending much of his time playing behind an average to mediocre group of Dmen. I hope the guy they end up replacing him with can do as well.

1. Roman Cechmanek
Cecho was a bit nutty to say the least, I mean the guy actively looked to stop shots with his freaking head!! However, when you look at the numbers, he is by far, the best goalie on this list. The Flyers had all kinds of problems from 2000-2002, but the quality of Cechmanek's play wasn't one of them. Sadly, his tendency to throw his teammates under the bus was.

Well, that's it. Let the criticism and complaints begin!



- BiggE

No love for Jeff "Vertigo" Hackett or Sean Burke? Or that really tall Finnish guy that we signed in replacement of Joakim Eriksson?

Agree 100%


Ok, here are my top ten Flyers goalies of the last 20 years:
(of course none of these guys belong in the same conversation as Parent, Lindbergh and the 80s version of Ron Hextall!)


- BiggE

I loved Marty Biron when he was here, but I still would put Boosh ahead of him.

3) For those who have not seen it, the Flyers A-to-Z biography microsite at the Flyers' official website contains profiles of every player -- right up through the recent NHL debuts of Mike Vecchione, Samuel Morin and Robert Hägg in the final week of the 2016-17 season -- in franchise history. In weeks to come, some typos and graphical errors will be cleaned up and information updated on all current Flyers players through the end of this past season. The site also contains a daily Today in Flyers History synopsis of notable events and Flyers birthdays from each calendar date.

very cool! will be checking that out

Regarding Bob, he was bad and has yet to play well in the playoffs in his career but I still like Bob. I don't lament over him being gone because it is what it is. I believe it was Snider pushing for Bryz basically tying the hands of Holmgren regarding keeping Bob and I also lay blame on Lavy but as I said it is what it is. I think he is an outstanding goalie. He will need to take that next step in the playoffs tho to justify that salary in my opinion

Agree 100%
Mason, for his career in Philly, was one of the better goalies to play here, especially during the last 20 years. In fact, I'd rate him only behind Cechmanek if I was ranking Flyers goalies of the last 20 years.

Hmm....

Ok, here are my top ten Flyers goalies of the last 20 years:
(of course none of these guys belong in the same conversation as Parent, Lindbergh and the 80s version of Ron Hextall!)

Honorable mentions:
Beezer and Neuvy

10. Bryzgalov
Hell, he deserves to be on the list just for his interviews. Perfect example of a guy who put up great numbers because he played behind a great D system. His numbers were solid for the most part in Philly and, at times, he was spectacular, but in the end, his signing will go down as a major screw up.

9. Ray Emery
A true warrior, who will ever forget him pounding on a terrified Holtby, LOL! It's a shame he couldn't have stayed healthy in 09-10. A 100% Emery could have very well led us to a Cup.

8. Michael Leighton
Had one hell of a run in the 2010 playoffs, at least until game 6.

7. Antero Nittymaki
Nitty was another guy hampered by injuries. His dominance of the Thrashers though was just freakish.

6. Bobrovsky
He showed a ton of promise, but Lavi bailing on him and then Snider demanding a free agent signing pretty much ended his time here. Yeah, they (frank)ed up with Bob, but it's water under the bridge now, so move on.

5. Robert Esche
"Silent Bob" was just a flat out horse for the Flyers in the 03-04 playoffs as he and Keith Primeau basically kept the injury depleted team afloat for 3 rounds. If they had just had one more healthy Dman.....


4. Brian Boucher
Boucher had an amazing start to his career in 99-00 and looked like the next great Flyers goalie. However he had a tough sophomore slump in 00-01 and lost his starting job to Cechmanek that season. Immaturity was his downfall during his first stint in orange and black, but when he returned years later, he was always a class act and veteran leader. And, of course, who can ever forget him out dueling CSP in the shootout in 2010 and the great work he did in the playoffs that year.

3. Marty Biron
Biron came aboard during the season from hell, and provided badly needed stability in goal. He was fantastic for much of the 07-08 season and playoffs and was always a class act. He wasn't the most talented goalie on this list, but he provided the Flyers with solid goaltending night in and night out at a time when they very badly needed it.

2. Steve Mason
Mase gets a bad rap from a lot of folks around here, but if you look at his numbers since coming to Philly he has really done a fantastic job while spending much of his time playing behind an average to mediocre group of Dmen. I hope the guy they end up replacing him with can do as well.

1. Roman Cechmanek
Cecho was a bit nutty to say the least, I mean the guy actively looked to stop shots with his freaking head!! However, when you look at the numbers, he is by far, the best goalie on this list. The Flyers had all kinds of problems from 2000-2002, but the quality of Cechmanek's play wasn't one of them. Sadly, his tendency to throw his teammates under the bus was.

Well, that's it. Let the criticism and complaints begin!



- BiggE

Not even an honorable mention for Zepp?

I loved Marty Biron when he was here, but I still would put Boosh ahead of him.
- johndewar

Yeah, there really wasn't much separating a lot of guys on my list.

Not even an honorable mention for Zepp?
- arichardson22

Good point, I always dug Page's guitar playing.

Agree 100%
Mason, for his career in Philly, was one of the better goalies to play here, especially during the last 20 years. In fact, I'd rate him only behind Cechmanek if I was ranking Flyers goalies of the last 20 years.

Hmm....

Ok, here are my top ten Flyers goalies of the last 20 years:
(of course none of these guys belong in the same conversation as Parent, Lindbergh and the 80s version of Ron Hextall!)

Honorable mentions:
Beezer and Neuvy

List



- BiggE

I think it is more upset at the guy himself for not forcing his way onto your list than I am at you for not including him....but Niittymaki

Don't see anyone challenging the Penguins in the East or the West. I think they win yet another cup.

Two years in a row now where they just seem to win every battle and outskate pretty much everyone. Speed kills. Look at McDavid in Edmonton. Speed is the future of the league. Its less about the 200ft game in my opinion because if your players are fast enough they can get the puck out quickly and play on the opposite end of the ice more often.
- StepfordSam

why is one exclusive of the other? 200 ft player does not mean slow.

Also...Deharnais giving a shoutout to Briere
- YuenglingJagr

Not to sound cliché but I really miss the energy a guy like Briere brought to the team. I think the Flyers do as well. Of course he had his draw backs with injuries and defensive play but he was a great veteran with the rare ability to impact a game when it mattered the most.

Would love to see him start a coaching career in the organization but it looks like he's being groomed for front office.

Not to sound cliché but I really miss the energy a guy like Briere brought to the team. I think the Flyers do as well. Of course he had his draw backs with injuries and defensive play but he was a great veteran with the rare ability to impact a game when it mattered the most.

Would love to see him start a coaching career in the organization but it looks like he's being groomed for selling club seats.
- Baxter27

I think Konecny has it and in a different way Simmonds does too. We don't really know though with how little they've been in the playoffs

why is one exclusive of the other? 200 ft player does not mean slow.
- nastyflyergirl

Yep, agreed.

My understanding of being a 200 ft player would mean that you either have an uncanny sense of timing and positional play ("good hockey sense") or that you are fast enough to make up for it when you are out of position.

I think it is more upset at the guy himself for not forcing his way onto your list than I am at you for not including him....but Niittymaki
- YuenglingJagr

Nitty is #7 on my list.

Nitty is #7 on my list.
- BiggE

Cal Heeter and Martin Houle would have made it on if they'd been given more of a chance.

Cal Heeter and Martin Houle would have made it on if they'd been given more of a chance.
- jmatchett383

Neil Little too

Nitty is #7 on my list.
- BiggE

Yeah...I missed that one...I think I saw Michael Leighton and my eyes freaked out

Amazing how PLind has so many of you rattled

Neil Little too

- BiggE

Is he in the Phantoms Hall of Fame (I'm assuming they have one). Should be counted among the greats like Peter White, Frank Bialowas, and Jonathan Matsumoto.

Amazing how Landsbergfan has so many of you rattled
- PhillySportsGuy

ftfy

Looking at some of the pre draft rankings, this draft is going to be all over the board
Here are some comparisons of the top centers:

Player name Button/Draftbuzz/Marek/ISS

Necas 3/6/8/17
Vilardi 4/3/5/4
Mittelstadt 6/10/6/6
Glass 7/8/16/14
Poehling 9/15/24/19
Suzuki 10/12/23/23
Pettersson 12/5//27/15
Andersson 15/7/12/27
Rasmussen 16/17/9/7

Now of the guys I really like, I think it's a safe bet that Vilardi won't fall past 5, but after that it wouldn't really shock me if at least 1 or maybe even 2, of Necas, Mittelstadt, Glass and Pettersson are still on the board after 9 picks have been made.

If so, I have to think it won't cost an arm and a leg to move up from 13 to 10 or 11 if there is a center that they really want to get still available.

Yeah...I missed that one...I think I saw Michael Leighton and my eyes freaked out
- YuenglingJagr

Amazing how PLind has so many of you rattled
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm not rattled, I'm just at the office and kind of bored.

Getting free lunch of stromboli and wings makes today a win!!!