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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Willie Desjardins takes the high road saying goodbye to Vancouver Canucks
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 13 @ 9:46 PM ET
I'd rather lend you my concrete shoes.
- golfingsince


Is that why you are so cemented to your hanging pair? Must be your admiration of Sutter
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 13 @ 9:48 PM ET
Can we shut this place down from 7 pm to 7 Am daily?
- VANTEL


Is that when the internet gets turned off in your ward?
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 13 @ 9:49 PM ET
Not really. Same as Vrbata. Given his opportunity by the coach has one of the best seasons ever. Coach takes that away, he sucks. Goes to Arizona, given another good opportunity and does well. On the coach.
- manvanfan


I have been thinking about Vrbata for a while now. The Sedins and Edler both have looked this year like they were showing symptoms of whatever disease he had the last year he was in Vancouver. Acute apathy, lethargy, seeming to have lost the will to live.

And yet there he is down in the desert scoring goals and doing his offense thing. If Willie hadn't refused to let him play with the Sedins that second season, does he go into the same tailspin? If he produces even at 80% of what he did in his first year, does he get extended here for another year or two? Does Benning still go out and sign Erickson if things had worked out that way?
golfingsince
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Apr 13 @ 9:49 PM ET
Is that why you are so cemented to your hanging pair? Must be your admiration of Sutter
- Nuck4U

You should stop by for a glass of turpentine.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 13 @ 9:49 PM ET
He is better than the guy currently recognized as the best, but I believe Bobby Orr is best ever.
- Reubenkincade


Nothing he couldn't or wouldn't do.
Never saw him whining in an era tougher than these pansy times.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 13 @ 9:49 PM ET
I don't believe Willie was fired solely because of the team's record and failure to make the playoffs. He was let go because many of his decisions were so obviously flawed.

The Sedins did look way past their prime when they were anchored down with Sutter, Megna, and Chaput. They looked more like their usual selves when they were playing with actual offensive talent such as Granlund and Goldobin.

Both his 'system' and the defensive structure we heard so much about last September were ineffective. By the end of the season players had abandoned it and were playing their own individual games.

The special teams were a disaster all year with only minor tweaks here and there. Expecting it to improve without substantial intervention was foolish.

Willie seems like a good guy and we wish him well, but it really was time for him to go. Management couldn't sell another year of his ideas to the players let alone the fans.

- YeOldTimer


Well said
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 13 @ 9:50 PM ET
You should stop by for a glass of turpentine.
- golfingsince


Is that what you feed the ladies when driving around the hood with your van?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 13 @ 9:53 PM ET
Is that when the internet gets turned off in your ward?
- golfingsince


Bedtime at the old folks home
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 13 @ 9:54 PM ET
I have been thinking about Vrbata for a while now. The Sedins and Edler both have looked this year like they were showing symptoms of whatever disease he had the last year he was in Vancouver. Acute apathy, lethargy, seeming to have lost the will to live.

And yet there he is down in the desert scoring goals and doing his offense thing. If Willie hadn't refused to let him play with the Sedins that second season, does he go into the same tailspin? If he produces even at 80% of what he did in his first year, does he get extended here for another year or two? Does Benning still go out and sign Erickson if things had worked out that way?

- YeOldTimer


I think he would have had more value at the TDL with a better year not hurting his pocketbook. Then, he might have said yes for a contender instead of that FU list he gave JB.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 9:54 PM ET
I'm missing something here, it been twice now that you have criticized others for speaking in absolutes, and yet here you are speaking in absolutes about Willie as if you are more qualified than those that speak favourably about him...is that not kind of hypocritical?
- Makita

you totally missed what I was saying

absolutes are statements like "No coach can...." Limiting statements. Now re read the original post
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 9:55 PM ET
Roy
- A_SteamingLombardi

good choice, thanks for weighing in
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 9:56 PM ET
Absolutely..I was sad last night
- Makita

theres no team I hate more than boston
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
Bedtime at the old folks home
- Redmile247


Maybe it's time we all start hanging out in the Flames thread.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
Maybe it's time we all start hanging out in the Flames thread.
- golfingsince


It's pretty quiet in there ...except when the oilers win ..then they seem to slither in

No refs in there either
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
I don't remember one Canuck fan at the time saying those idiots (frank)ed up we should have taken Jagr.
- golfingsince

I did but you just didn't hear it.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
You're a total joke.
- Marwood

shows what you know....nothing

but regardless Im a winner at everything I do and youre still just a pathetic loser with an agenda to pick fights and malign posters day in and day out. Dont you have a plan to prepare on what drugs youre gonna do tomorrow? So piss off and leave alone posters who just wanna talk hockey
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 13 @ 10:00 PM ET
It's pretty quiet in there ...except when the oilers win ..then they seem to slither in
- Redmile247


The Flames thread has always been quiet, even a decade ago. However, it really collapsed after that Flames/Hawks series it seems and never recovered.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 13 @ 10:01 PM ET
Is that when the internet gets turned off in your ward?
- golfingsince

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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Apr 13 @ 10:01 PM ET
I did but you just didn't hear it.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 13 @ 10:02 PM ET
good choice, thanks for weighing in
- SMBDragon


I would agree with ASL too. Roy changed the game more on how goalies play today.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 13 @ 10:03 PM ET
shows what you know....nothing

but regardless Im a winner at everything I do and youre still just a pathetic loser with an agenda to pick fights and malign posters day in and day out. Dont you have a plan to prepare on what drugs youre gonna do tomorrow? So piss off and leave alone posters who just wanna talk hockey

- SMBDragon

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 13 @ 10:04 PM ET
The Flames thread has always been quiet, even a decade ago. However, it really collapsed after that Flames/Hawks series it seems and never recovered.
- golfingsince


Yeah it's been quiet for as long as I been here ...but I do so some trickle in from time to time that have been on here for almost 10 years yet I've never seen them
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:04 PM ET
Nothing he couldn't or wouldn't do.
Never saw him whining in an era tougher than these pansy times.

- Nighthawk

yes....like yzerman playing with a broken leg while players these days are on IR for a hangnail
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 13 @ 10:07 PM ET
I did but you just didn't hear it.
- A_SteamingLombardi


With you on that. Hearing Nedved at draft interview praise Jagr as better then him sealed it for me. I thought oh boy the Pens added another hammer and sort of pulled a Bure on the draft. They will get him to come over.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
I would agree with ASL too. Roy changed the game more on how goalies play today.
- Nuck4U
all 3 are good choices. Cant argue with Roys many cup wins though
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