The days of the defensive defenceman are slowly coming to an end. No more Bill Hajts or Jerry Korabs. They are all quick and offensive and not very big. Makes for a more exciting product on the ice but always liked having defensive guys on my team.
- Matthews_Auston

I miss Jerry Korab.

What he did to the Soviets in that game decades ago was a sight to see.

the optional skate isnt what it once was. The fact that jack and sam missed this one is a non story. Im willing to bet matthews, mcdavid, laine etc. have all chosen to take the option in an optional morning skate.
- Sabresfan-365

Now you're just killing my fantasy where Bylsma gets fired for this

So the whole team goes to the optional skate after getting their ass handed to them and you're making up excuses for Jack,Sam

These guys are supposed to be the leaders of our team
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Im willing to bet anything that the whole team wasnt there. I prefer my star players to show up in the games that matter. I couldn't care less whether they take an optional skate or not.

Now you're just killing my fantasy where Bylsma gets fired for this
- jcragcrumple

Hey at least he's getting canned? can't be too greedy

Im willing to bet anything that the whole team wasnt there. I prefer my star players to show up in the games that matter. I couldn't care less whether they take an optional skate or not.
- Sabresfan-365

I'm sure it would be a different story if Jack eichel and Sam we're the ones that planned the optional skate

People saying you know that's true leadership qualities.

But I guess they get a pass it is what it is

Im willing to bet anything that the whole team wasnt there. I prefer my star players to show up in the games that matter. I couldn't care less whether they take an optional skate or not.
- Sabresfan-365

I wish they told Bogo the games were optional

I'm sure it would be a different story if Jack eichel and Sam we're the ones that planned the optional skate

People saying you know that's true leadership qualities.

But I guess they get a pass it is what it is
- GERBE!!!75PTS

if they were about to play a do or die game and the whole team showed up except them then there's a story. How many games has eichel been the only one who's "shown up". If he wants some shut eye in the morning im good with that. They all do it now(yes even your bro's golden child).

Im willing to bet anything that the whole team wasnt there. I prefer my star players to show up in the games that matter. I couldn't care less whether they take an optional skate or not.
- Sabresfan-365

Well if the rest were all there and they weren't, I can see that not going over so well with the other players. These 2 turkeys are starting to get the Richie and Cartsie rep. Hope being roomies isn't detrimental.

I wish they told Bogo the games were optional
- sbroads24

Based on his performance im pretty sure they have...

Specifically on fowler since thats the rumour that came up. The faulk one would have been nice.
- Sabresfan-365

For some reason, I remember quite a few saying on to the 8th pick for Faulk as well. Not you specifically, but it was not an everyone on board move from memory.

if they were about to play a do or die game and the whole team showed up except them then there's a story. How many games has eichel been the only one who's "shown up". If he wants some shut eye in the morning im good with that. They all do it now(yes even your bro's golden child).
- Sabresfan-365

You do understand I agreed with your point

Since when has Guhle been an offensive defenseman?
- chilliard77

His performance since the trade in Juniors is what's getting everyone excited for his offensive potential (29 points in 22 games).

For some reason, I remember quite a few saying on to the 8th pick for Faulk as well. Not you specifically, but it was not an everyone on board move from memory.
- kingcong39

Makes a helluva difference after the fact. Mainly because the 8th pick could of hypothetically have been a number of guys. Now that it's Nylander in the AHL it's viewed differently

His performance since the trade in Juniors is what's getting everyone excited for his offensive potential (29 points in 22 games).
- kingcong39

Don't get too excited then .. it's pretty normal in juniors

For some reason, I remember quite a few saying on to the 8th pick for Faulk as well. Not you specifically, but it was not an everyone on board move from memory.
- kingcong39

There were quite a few, but i like faulk over fowler. especially under contract at that cap hit.

You do understand I agreed with your point
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I know it just seems like a weird thing for your bro to bring up

Makes a helluva difference after the fact. Mainly because the 8th pick could of hypothetically have been a number of guys. Now that it's Nylander in the AHL it's viewed differently
- sbroads24

I just think about where this team would be today if they cut ties with bogosian and added faulk last year.

My father and I (both wanted Leon and Bennett respectively) always joke about how we are waiting for him to "beat teams with his mind".

I am starting to be truly amazed that he was touted over everyone including Nylander and Ehlers as a better prospect.
- sbroads24

Hindsight sure is 20/20, isn't it?

Pretty easy to say that now.

Hindsight sure is 20/20, isn't it?

Pretty easy to say that now.
- kingcong39

Now is what matters. We aren't intentionally trying to be bad anymore.

I just think about where this team would be today if they cut ties with bogosian and added faulk last year.
- Sabresfan-365

I can't help but think what our future would be like if we waited a year to make big trades

I can't help but think what our future would be like if we waited a year to make big trades
- sbroads24

or if we made any?

I can't help but think what our future would be like if we waited a year to make big trades
- sbroads24

If Armia, Lemieux, Compher, Roslovic or White turn into super stars than maybe you're right. Issue is they haven't and while the latter two show some promise, I'm not convinced we don't have replacement prospects already in the system. Roslovic hurts, but Armia...Compher...we have a number of prospects at or near their level. Wouldn't really change anything other than we would be awful right now and have a bit more of a log jam down the road.

I think Stash took the easy way out and just stopped coming here to read (reed) this garbage.

If Armia, Lemieux, Compher, Roslovic or White turn into super stars than maybe you're right. Issue is they haven't and while the latter two show some promise, I'm not convinced we don't have replacement prospects already in the system. Roslovic hurts, but Armia...Compher...we have a number of prospects at or near their level. Wouldn't really change anything other than we would be awful right now.
- RhinoFan

And awful last year, with Matthews, Laine in the draft.

And a bevy of prospects to deal after we landed another stud.

I can't imagine we wouldn't have been 30th or very close if you subtract ROR and Kane from last years team, and replaced them with the guys who weren't even in the NHL yet.

A lot of it is opportunity though

Bennett's most common linemates have been Troy Brouwer and Kris Versteeg

Reinhart's have been Jack Eichel, Foligno, and a close 2nd Kane.
- sbroads24

Agree on the opportunity being a factor, but he still has a whopping 25 points in 79 games, which is putrid.