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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 24 @ 1:56 PM ET
I like this idea that Schultz played for sentimental reasons...........because that totally sounds like something Hakstol would do. He played because Hakstol thought he gave them the best chance to win, and that's pretty much it.

His default mode is to coach every game like there's no tomorrow. He plays Schultz for sentimental reasons and risks making the team worse? All while playing Ghost and Konecny on the 4th line and as the #6 d man, each playing like 3 shifts in the 3rd period and benched the final half of the period. Does that sound like a coach who has any ulterior motives, except to do whatever it takes to win, as he sees it, no matter how meaningless the game?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
I wouldn't
- YuenglingJagr


You Weise-loving wackos sicken me.

But seriously, a 4th is probably too much to give up just to change which forward Vegas take.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Mar 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
Sanheim for Rantanen is something I might consider. Need a pick coming back too though.
- hereticpride

IMO I would not even think of moving Sanheim before Meyers (2 concussions) Hagg or even Morin. I think this kid is going to track upward and upward after that.
3flyerkids
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
Would you:

Trade Simmer, Sanheim, and our first to Colorado for Duchene, Rantanen and the top pick?

- jak521



Don't know if I would do that one,even though I do want to move a core player.

I would look to improve 4th line with physical players so I would trade
Raffl for Roussel ( who is a Richard but plays a good role and kills penalties)
Try to acquire Reaves from STL to bring a physical element to the team aside from having a leading scorer be our most feared player
Roussel, PEB, Reaves.... Different look. Hell of a lot better than what they got now
Roussel could play a solid 3rd line role if need be.
Flyers need more toughness and character
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
IMO I would not even think of moving Sanheim before Meyers (2 concussions) Hagg or even Morin. I think this kid is going to track upward and upward after that.
- Konalover


If he was that good, how come career AHLers like Brennan and O'Neill are scoring better than him?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
If he was that good, how come career AHLers like Brennan and O'Neill are scoring better than him?
- Feanor


nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 24 @ 2:52 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/phi...yless-on-national-TV.html

oh Charles
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 2:55 PM ET
I like this idea that Schultz played for sentimental reasons...........because that totally sounds like something Hakstol would do. He played because Hakstol thought he gave them the best chance to win, and that's pretty much it.

His default mode is to coach every game like there's no tomorrow. He plays Schultz for sentimental reasons and risks making the team worse? All while playing Ghost and Konecny on the 4th line and as the #6 d man, each playing like 3 shifts in the 3rd period and benched the final half of the period. Does that sound like a coach who has any ulterior motives, except to do whatever it takes to win, as he sees it, no matter how meaningless the game?

- Mononoke

When you put it that way he just sounds like a nut case.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Don't know if I would do that one,even though I do want to move a core player.

I would look to improve 4th line with physical players so I would trade
Raffl for Roussel ( who is a Richard but plays a good role and kills penalties)
Try to acquire Reaves from STL to bring a physical element to the team aside from having a leading scorer be our most feared player
Roussel, PEB, Reaves.... Different look. Hell of a lot better than what they got now
Roussel could play a solid 3rd line role if need be.
Flyers need more toughness and character

- 3flyerkids

Every time I see Roussel play I think he would look good in Orange n black
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:07 PM ET
I like this idea that Schultz played for sentimental reasons...........because that totally sounds like something Hakstol would do. He played because Hakstol thought he gave them the best chance to win, and that's pretty much it.

His default mode is to coach every game like there's no tomorrow. He plays Schultz for sentimental reasons and risks making the team worse? All while playing Ghost and Konecny on the 4th line and as the #6 d man, each playing like 3 shifts in the 3rd period and benched the final half of the period. Does that sound like a coach who has any ulterior motives, except to do whatever it takes to win, as he sees it, no matter how meaningless the game?

- Mononoke


You're absolutely right. What coach in his right mind would do whatever it takes to win. That's not a coach that I'd want.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
You're absolutely right. What coach in his right mind would do whatever it takes to win. That's not a coach that I'd want.
- MJL


Veterans veterans veterans! Yaaaaaay!

Also, I said what HE thought would help win. I don't know if he mainlines universal objective truths like you and me.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:15 PM ET
If he was that good, how come career AHLers like Brennan and O'Neill are scoring better than him?
- Feanor

So what are you saying? Career AHLers one who one he is tied with in points and another who is leading the team in scoring as a dman and the kid isn't good? Am I wrong to think trading him is not a good idea. and you say career pluggers BS
In your always a hate/contrarian view try to make a point!

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:20 PM ET
Veterans veterans veterans! Yaaaaaay!

Also, I said what HE thought would help them win. I don't know if he mainlines universal objective reality like you and me.

- Mononoke


Just like every other coach.

As far as your last statement, I recognize the coach as the superior authority to myself, and refrain from acting like an expert and criticizing every single decision he makes. There's any number of decisions just from last night's game that I could drum up criticism for, but I don't see reasons to nitpick.
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Mar 24 @ 3:21 PM ET
jeez I buy tickets to 1 Flyers game this year, not through the Flyers, and now I am getting hounded by them. 3 calls this week from 215-218-PUCK......leave me alone I don't want to pay anymore for this crapfest....
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:23 PM ET
I...refrain from acting like an expert
- MJL


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:23 PM ET
Veterans veterans veterans! Yaaaaaay!

Also, I said what HE thought would help win. I don't know if he mainlines universal objective truths like you and me.

- Mononoke

It is all explained by the playoff push. As jmatchett has pointed out earlier....there is a clear path to the playoffs...so he should be doing everything it takes to win these games.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:28 PM ET
I like this idea that Schultz played for sentimental reasons...........because that totally sounds like something Hakstol would do. He played because Hakstol thought he gave them the best chance to win, and that's pretty much it.

His default mode is to coach every game like there's no tomorrow. He plays Schultz for sentimental reasons and risks making the team worse? All while playing Ghost and Konecny on the 4th line and as the #6 d man, each playing like 3 shifts in the 3rd period and benched the final half of the period. Does that sound like a coach who has any ulterior motives, except to do whatever it takes to win, as he sees it, no matter how meaningless the game?

- Mononoke

It is funny how since he came from college everyone assumes he is great with developing younger players
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 24 @ 3:29 PM ET
So what are you saying? Career AHLers one who one he is tied with in points and another who is leading the team in scoring as a dman and the kid isn't good? Am I wrong to think trading him is not a good idea. and you say career pluggers BS
In your always a hate/contrarian view try to make a point!

- Konalover


So it's OK to be scoring less than veterans if they get easier ES minutes and are used more on the PP if you're Travis Sanheim.

But not if you're Scott Laughton.

Your hypocrisy is the point.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:31 PM ET
It is funny how since he came from college everyone assumes he is great with developing younger players
- YuenglingJagr



There is plenty of evidence that suggests that he has a lot of experience in dealing with young players and developing a successful college hockey program with a continuing turnover of players.
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Mar 24 @ 3:32 PM ET
jeez I buy tickets to 1 Flyers game this year, not through the Flyers, and now I am getting hounded by them. 3 calls this week from 215-218-PUCK......leave me alone I don't want to pay anymore for this crapfest....
- Lawless18


make that 4 calls.....
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 24 @ 3:33 PM ET

- Mononoke


I doubt MJL smokes
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:36 PM ET
It is funny how since he came from college everyone assumes he is great with developing younger players
- YuenglingJagr


Yes, as long as those younger players play with veteran maturity and make few mistakes.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:36 PM ET
There is plenty of evidence that suggests that he has a lot of experience in dealing with young players and developing a successful college hockey program with a continuing turnover of players.
- MJL

Yes, there is plenty of evidence he was a good college coach....Thanks
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 24 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yes, as long as those younger players play with veteran maturity and make few mistakes.
- Mononoke


Did you know he scratched Jonathan Toews at UND so he could watch from the press box? Toews has gone on to become the 3rd overall pick and is fighting for his 4th Stanley Cup!
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Mar 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
WOW Gudas just got 12 games for that Cindy slashing off fingers incident
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