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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
His career has been pretty similar to Giroux's. For some stretches he's been the best player in the world and has always been consistently good. But the direction of this team won't be to build around another 28 year old.
- Baxter27

Think so too.

With the age of the d-prospects you basically are forced to go young up front.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 11:47 AM ET
I understand.

Maybe I just think the Islanders will screw it up.

- J35Bacher

Or you could hang out for an hour and discuss the definition of close.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 24 @ 11:49 AM ET
There really is no evidence to suggest Tavares won't re-sign with the Islanders either. They'll have the motivation and cap space to extend him.
- PhillySportsGuy

As long as he doesn't hire Allan Walsh as his agent it should be expected
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 24 @ 11:50 AM ET
If you're Hextall, do you say to Vegas they can have a 2017 4th if they take Weise instead?

We have three of them.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers

- Feanor

I wouldn't
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 24 @ 11:51 AM ET
I'd be weary about going after Tavares. You ditch Giroux only to sign another mega deal for a superstar who is likely exiting his prime? I'd rather take my chances that Giroux can recover or adjust his game.
- Baxter27

LOL it is the best

Giroux and Voracek are going to be on the wrong side of 30 and getting paid over 8 million!!!!

They arent worth the money!!!

Sign a 28 year old to a huge contract!!!!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 11:53 AM ET
There really is no evidence to suggest Tavares won't re-sign with the Islanders either. They'll have the motivation and cap space to extend him.
- PhillySportsGuy

Keep in mind we're talking about the Isles here. If there's a way to screw something up and pat yourself on the back at the same time they will find it.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Mar 24 @ 11:54 AM ET
A couple of my hockey buddies were asking me about Giroux the other night and that's exactly what they said....Giroux used to be the best player on the ice in 90% of their games .....like only 2-3 years ago.
- landros 2


Throw in marriage and surgery and those years start getting calculated in DOG years!
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Mar 24 @ 11:55 AM ET
Think so too.

With the age of the d-prospects you basically are forced to go young up front.

- flyer_nutter


Exactly... and keeping Giroux and Voracek allow them to find those guys without rushing them. When they arrive is when you consider trading who they're replacing.

Provorov and the rest of the D being 5 or 6 years older isn't an issue for me. How much older was Keith and Sebrook than Toews and Kane?
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Mar 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
If

1) Boston loses every game from here on out
2) Islanders lose every game from here on out (except against Bruins)
3) Tampa Bay loses every game from here on out (except against Bruins)
4) Carolina loses every game (except against Islanders)
5) Flyers win every game

Flyers make the playoffs.

- jmatchett383


This will be right after we defrost Walt Disney and rebuild Fantasyland.




Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
LOL it is the best

Giroux and Voracek are going to be on the wrong side of 30 and getting paid over 8 million!!!!

They arent worth the money!!!

Sign a 28 year old to a huge contract!!!!

- YuenglingJagr


Especially the way contracts have been escalating. Tavares puts in another quality year and he's making over 10.

Meanwhile, Giroux will be halfway through his deal with his salary declining each year.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
As long as he doesn't hire Allan Walsh as his agent it should be expected
- YuenglingJagr


I just can't imagine a point where he'd reach free agency with the Islanders. They'll offer him a yuge deal and if he turns it down, they have to trade him.

OTOH, they aren't exactly a well run organization, so I guess anything can happen.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 24 @ 12:09 PM ET
http://grammarist.com/usage/wary-weary/
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 24 @ 12:10 PM ET
Would you:

Trade Simmer, Sanheim, and our first to Colorado for Duchene, Rantanen and the top pick?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
Would you:

Trade Simmer, Sanheim, and our first to Colorado for Duchene, Rantanen and the top pick?

- jak521


Yes.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:12 PM ET
Keep in mind we're talking about the Isles here. If there's a way to screw something up and pat yourself on the back at the same time they will find it.
- mayorofangrytown


Tavares really has them over a barrel though. What are they going to do? Plunge themselves back into a rebuild? If anything, I think they'll go out of their way to overpay him if they need to.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:14 PM ET
Would you:

Trade Simmer, Sanheim, and our first to Colorado for Duchene, Rantanen and the top pick?

- jak521


Please remove your head from the clouds
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 24 @ 12:15 PM ET
Andrew Ladd doesn't sound so badd now does it?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:19 PM ET
Andrew Ladd doesn't sound so badd now does it?
- Streit2ThePoint



31 yrs old, 7 year contract, full NMC for 4 of them and a modified for 3 of them.....no thanks
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 24 @ 12:21 PM ET
Welcome to Leafland
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
Would you:

Trade Simmer, Sanheim, and our first to Colorado for Duchene, Rantanen and the top pick?

- jak521


Dude......cmon with this
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
31 yrs old, 7 year contract, full NMC for 4 of them and a modified for 3 of them.....no thanks
- nastyflyergirl

he'll be Andy Laddcavalier before we know it
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 24 @ 12:31 PM ET
31 yrs old, 7 year contract, full NMC for 4 of them and a modified for 3 of them.....no thanks
- nastyflyergirl


Fraude Gipoox 29 yrs old 5 yrs left at over 8 mil!!! Rather have a goal scorer making $3 mil less and use that money to go towards a top LW. Move Filppula to 1C and Couturier 2C
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
Fraude Gipoox 29 yrs old 5 yrs left at over 8 mil!!! Rather have a goal scorer making $3 mil less and use that money to go towards a top LW. Move Filppula to 1C and Couturier 2C
- Streit2ThePoint

seems reasonable
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:55 PM ET
Would you:

Trade Simmer, Sanheim, and our first to Colorado for Duchene, Rantanen and the top pick?

- jak521

Sanheim for Rantanen is something I might consider. Need a pick coming back too though.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 24 @ 1:05 PM ET
Fraude Gipoox 29 yrs old 5 yrs left at over 8 mil!!! Rather have a goal scorer making $3 mil less and use that money to go towards a top LW. Move Filppula to 1C and Couturier 2C
- Streit2ThePoint



I want no part of that Ladd Contract. 20 goals and 8 assist. no thanks
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