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mw630
Joined: 06.24.2011

Mar 9 @ 5:39 PM ET
If vegas signs one of the RFA's I believe it counts against their expansion pick.
- j.boyd919


As long as the team made a qualifying offer on the RFA.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Mar 9 @ 5:46 PM ET
Let me just say this...Fighting is the only reason I watch this board on Hockeybuzz. If you take the fighting away, I'm switching boards.
- Reverend Killtaker


FU. lol!






I kid!
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Mar 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
FU. lol!






I kid!

- powerhouse


*skates away as an instigator should*
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Mar 9 @ 5:51 PM ET
If you don't want Malkin fighting, then he should not deliver cheap-shot hits to the head. Problem solved.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Mar 9 @ 5:51 PM ET
If you don't want Malkin fighting, then he should not deliver cheap-shot hits to the head. Problem solved.
- EnzoD


I want him fighting.
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Mar 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
Ryan your opinion isn't surprising... Hockey was just fine before you decided to write about it. If you don't like it go write about baseball. The game is going just fine. You people want to change it so much that it's not hockey anymore at all. Next it will be no hitting at all.

As for Sestito. He has a place in hockey and I would say that I thought that Jets were a lot less physical than the last meeting. Sestito went at Byfuglien twice and was rejected both times. As a 4th liner his job is to forecheck. Enstrom See's him coming in and turns on purpose placing himself in danger. However because we live in a world of Sissy's these days this is how you draw penalties. Sestito is held to a standard that a guy like Byfuglien isn't held too.

Do I think Sestito is good ? No. Do I care if he's the 12th forward against a team that ran out team in the last meeting!!! Hell no. Especially when Sid and Geno can double shift anytime you want to sit Sestito.
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Mar 9 @ 5:58 PM ET
I dont understand if you guys cant handle hockey why do you watch it. The coaches the players the gms all want fighting save for a few. Malkin and Ccrosby both like fighting. Ovi likes fighting. Its their game, they decide and your opinions mean nothing to any of them.
- Grinder47


These guys are a product of their generation. We don't get our way cry and protest. Scary how soft people have become.
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

Mar 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
I'm not down with people having to fight because the other team thinks they weren't penalised enough (i.e. Malkin/Wheeler), but I'm totally for players being allowed to fight when the tension is building in a playoff game and people have been battling all week (i.e. Crosby/Giroux). The league and the refs is responsible for the first because they don't punish people nearly enough, but if you give superstars misconducts when there is nothing behind the fight except battling to win the sport is diminished.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 9 @ 6:23 PM ET
The butt hurt with RWs blog is severe lol its funny.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Mar 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
Funny, I dated a girl who's 24-year-old brother overdosed on oxycodone, the same cause of death of Derek Boogaard. I didn't know that girl's brother was a former NHl enforcer.

Maybe the doctor who was illegalling prescribing the drugs to him had something to do with it too. That's probably why charges were brought against him.

No one is saying that fighting in the NHL, or anywhere, is good for your health. Players may not have known the extent of damage that was being done, but any sensible person knows that repeatedly being punched is not good for your health. I'm not saying they're to blame for their situations, but at the same time, this was the profession and role they chose. Now that new information is available
, the players in today's game should be well aware of what repeated head trauma can lead to and draw their own conclusions about whether or not they want to fight.

- jmatchett383


By that rationale though every service member killed in action knew what they signed up for... should we dismiss their deaths as a unfortunate choice or try to eliminate risk.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Mar 9 @ 6:27 PM ET
The highest rate of suicide in the US is middle aged white men. Aka 99.99% of what retired or failed NHL players are.
- Zac_O


This is 100% incorrect.
mw630
Joined: 06.24.2011

Mar 9 @ 6:41 PM ET
If you don't want Malkin fighting, then he should not deliver cheap-shot hits to the head. Problem solved.
- EnzoD


Haha such a good avatar for a troll. Maybe Keith will step up and fight one of the next times he slashes someone in the face or elbows them in the head......
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Mar 9 @ 7:12 PM ET
4 games for Sestito and no penalty for Byfuglien on his hit. Consistent punishment would be nice
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 9 @ 7:15 PM ET
4 games for Sestito and no penalty for Byfuglien on his hit. Consistent punishment would be nice
- lloyd095


That's because sestitos hit was bad and buffs was not.
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Mar 9 @ 7:45 PM ET
That's because sestitos hit was bad and buffs was not.
- j.boyd919


OK a guy facing the glass and a guy turning towards it to prevent being hit after making eye contact with Sestito. Both were from behind.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Mar 9 @ 8:19 PM ET
OK a guy facing the glass and a guy turning towards it to prevent being hit after making eye contact with Sestito. Both were from behind.
- lloyd095


I think sesito needs to be under more control heading into that puck battle. That is why he's suspended. That being said enstroms an idiot. By the time he turned his back sesito was committed and didn't have much ability to let up an his hit. And quite frankly smaller guy versus bigger guy he's going to get crushed. It's not worth getting a 5 min power play at risks of long term injury. I watched the play a bunch of times and I don't think freight train sesisto had the ability to avoid the collision after he turned.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Mar 9 @ 8:23 PM ET
That's because sestitos hit was bad and buffs was not.
- j.boyd919


I think 4 games is fair. But Enstrom still has to protect himself there.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Mar 9 @ 8:45 PM ET
This is 100% incorrect.
- ChrisMS

Please correct it then. I'm using the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention as a source. The only one considered comparable is the Asian suicide rate (in the US). Some figures put theirs higher. So if I am incorrect it's a matter of wording. So I'll rephrase it. "Middle aged white men have one of the highest suicide rates in the US. Within 2015 70% of suicides in the US were by white men." Is this better?
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Mar 9 @ 8:59 PM ET
We have a silly amount of cap room This offseason. Scuderi off the books. Daley gone. Fleury gone probably save a little there even with Murray salary bump next year. Cap is expected to go up $3 million. Thing is every year Crosby, kessel, malkin, and letang cap hits stay the same while the cap keeps going up. That means each year we have a couple more dollars for the second tier guys. Dumo probably takes Daleys money. The cap increase plus Schultz currently salary will be about 4.5 so he takes cap increase. Scuderi plus fleury savings go to sheary. We might run into problems paying a legit 3c. We also might lose hagelin or horn to expansion.

I wander if Colorado could be interested in horn + maatta for Barrie or one of their forwards. A trade like that could help us for the salary cap and expansion draft.

I also forgot Kunitz is ufa so his money could go to sheary. All honesty if we lose a salary to expansion we may be looking at having a pot of money to spend on a ufa or trade target. Regardless how the playoffs go I expect us to make some moves since we should have cap room and we held onto our 1st.

- sditulli

A lot of that's fine for this year. But you got a lot of young talent coming through that'll start wanting decent money long term. There's a chance it'll be fine but I still would prefer more wiggle room with the cap.

Also don't count on the cap going up every year. Players sound ready to stop raising it cuz it's costing them union dollars. Not sure how it all works but they hate the current CBA it sounds cuz the teams arent making enough money to raise the cap naturally so players pay extra to raise it so they can get paid more.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 9 @ 10:06 PM ET
OK a guy facing the glass and a guy turning towards it to prevent being hit after making eye contact with Sestito. Both were from behind.
- lloyd095


If buff wasn't 265 Schultz wouldn't have gotten hurt. And that hit would be a nonissue.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Mar 9 @ 10:20 PM ET
If buff wasn't 265 Schultz wouldn't have gotten hurt. And that hit would be a nonissue.
- j.boyd919

If the little guy fron the jets didnt obviously turn his back to avoid a hit it would have been a clean hit. Im fine with the four games but feel zero remorse for him. If your that stupid to turn your back in that situation you deserve whatevers coming.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 10:21 PM ET
If buff wasn't 265 Schultz wouldn't have gotten hurt. And that hit would be a nonissue.
- j.boyd919

Yea buff is just the biggest dude in the NHL, it made Shultz's head reverb off the glass
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 9 @ 10:23 PM ET
If the little guy fron the jets didnt obviously turn his back to avoid a hit it would have been a clean hit. Im fine with the four games but feel zero remorse for him. If your that stupid to turn your back in that situation you deserve whatevers coming.
- Grinder47

He could've went shoulder to shoulder with him but he took the full turn and gave him his back.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 9 @ 10:28 PM ET
If the little guy fron the jets didnt obviously turn his back to avoid a hit it would have been a clean hit. Im fine with the four games but feel zero remorse for him. If your that stupid to turn your back in that situation you deserve whatevers coming.
- Grinder47


While I slightly agree that Enstrom turned into it, Sestito had way more intent coming in fast for a hit (which was going to be shoulder to shoulder until he turned) then Buffs routine rub along the boards. Buffs play happens 10 times a game and no one gets hurt, but buff being as big as he was caused some damage.
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Mar 9 @ 10:33 PM ET
If buff wasn't 265 Schultz wouldn't have gotten hurt. And that hit would be a nonissue.
- j.boyd919



You have no issue with the hit that hurt Maatta? The Jets played on the edge and over the edge most of the last game. What did this think was going to happen this game? When Sestito was dressed, I told my buddy no chance he makes it out of the 1st period. He has one thing to do, and he did it. Like it or not, he served his purpose. To me, the Sestito hit is equal to the hit on Maatta, Jets fans can cry all they want, they knew it was coming.
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