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Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Mar 3 @ 7:18 PM ET
Lucic is an overpayed slug
- Nighthawk

6 million dollar anchor, he will be ineffective in 2 years in fact hes already sliding, he cant keep up.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 3 @ 7:19 PM ET
We have 47 contracts now. If we sign Boeser and Guadette this year that only leaves one more spot for a CHL or College free agent..... hopefully one of Aston-Reese, Vecchione, or Brickley
- Mungo


Edit: I quoted the wrong post
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Mar 3 @ 7:20 PM ET
Lucic is an overpayed slug
- Nighthawk

Ya he is now.. But the Lucic who broke in to the league was a pain in the ass to play against plus he could play top 6. Would love to have a big guy who hits, fights and scores goals.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 3 @ 7:20 PM ET
If you can trade Edler then maybe move him but if Edler is staying yeah move Tanev before NTC
- VANTEL


I think we prioritize Tanev, he will be any coach's crutch for big minutes (plus learning from the mistake of not moving Edler before a NTC).

At least now the perception of Edler isnt that hes a top D, there is opportunity for the role to be taken. I feel Tanev is perceived as much more reliable. Edler can still help for the next couple seasons, his deal expires earlier than Tanev's too
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Mar 3 @ 7:21 PM ET
TL said they would be looking for stop-gap type UFA's, clear out Tanev and Edler and bring in a Trevor Daley or Brian Campbell (or another elder D in trade return) to help reduce the workload on the kids but make sure in 2 years they are positioned to be paid and played appropriately
- WhiteLie

Absolutely what I hope happens.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Mar 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
Another spot will be freed up with the expansion draft.
- boonerbuck



Ya that's true, but by then it might be too late. Some of these college guys might be done in the next couple of weeks. They'll want to be signed asap so they can get an NHL game in.

If Benning is going to sign Boeser and Gaudette then that leaves just one spot for now. I'm guessing they're not super hopeful about signing any of the college FA's or they don't think that highly of this years class
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 3 @ 7:22 PM ET
Anyone know what utica guys come off the books this season?

I think were at 47 contracts now. Plus need to sign Dahlen, Nolan Patrick and hopefully add a college player.

We are going to get close to that 50 mark pretty quick.

- mauryballstein


Another spot will be freed up with the expansion draft.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 3 @ 7:23 PM ET
Ya that's true, but by then it might be too late. Some of these college guys might be done in the next couple of weeks. They'll want to be signed asap so they can get an NHL game in.

If Benning is going to sign Boeser and Gaudette then that leaves just one spot for now. I'm guessing they're not super hopeful about signing any of the college FA's or they don't think that highly of this years class

- Mungo


I meant to quote someone else.
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Mar 3 @ 7:27 PM ET
Now you guys know me. I'm all for slow and steady progress. Been touting that poop for years now. But what I'm seeing now, it ain't progress. Ha! Progress? We ain't (frank)ing talking progress here.

We are standing at an edge of a cliff. An edge that is like really super unstable. And who's going to pull us back? Jim and Trevor? "Sorry, we can't help you right now we're too busy with our heads up our asses looking for a clue."

Yeah, thanks for the help you (frank)s.

Benning's an idiot. Plain and simple. And I'm not just taking about his eductation. I'm talking all-around dim. Certified dumb.

Who trades a 1st line scorer for a "?". In fact, he traded the only two roster players that found some success playing with the twins. You see, it takes a special kind of mind to divine yourself into the Sedin’s cosmic wizardry. (frank) man, it's something that you and I can't grasp! There might be only 6 people in the world that can. And we had them!

Edge crumbling.

Let me divert for a second. Here's a question. What does this franchise do on a consistent basis? Oh nothing, just trade away every single player the twins ever played well with. Klatt, Pyatt, Kesler (one of the most dominant Peepees ever), that black guy, and now Burrows and Hansen. Stick that in your conspiracy mug and drink it.

What the (frank) was I saying… Oh yeah...

As others have pointed out quite eloquently, these players have like crazy high intangibles. No need to elaborate.

So what do we do now? What does our coach do now? What do the players do now when the heart has been ripped out from this team! That's one of the team's two (sometimes three) assistants to the captain for Christ sake! I'm pretty sure that's really important even though I've never really played a professional team sport. Regardless, I'm pissed.

And now they don't have an assistant captain. When asked who gets to wear the "A" now? Dim Jim's answer (because the coach is in hospital recovering from a narcoleptic seizure) "we'll just move the "A" around and see what sticks..."

Are you (frank)ing kidding me. More of the same crap from this fascist, misogynous, right wing, dictatorship they call "management". Misdirection, confusion, and indecision is the strategy here.

I don't understand why there is such disconnect between the two leadership groups? I really feel for Willie. He's got his plan laid out to get our team into the playoffs, positions are filled, got his difference makers where they need to be. Willie's got a totally solid grasp on his roster and then WHOOSH! The carpet gets pulled from under him. No clue. No warning. Everyone was on board for the final push to the playoffs and then a 180. WTF?

Got to give poor Willie a chance. Just get us to the damn playoffs and with Willie's backcountry smarts and an amazingly balanced roster, who knows what could happen. All you haters have to do is look at LA Kings a few years back. Hell, the comparisons between our team and that team are pretty scary.

Anyway, I don't know what is going on anymore but I feel comfortable sharing my feelings of confusion and emptiness with you guys. Sometimes I feel like I'm falling. Just falling...

- bloatedmosquito



Best satire EVER!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 3 @ 7:28 PM ET
We have 47 contracts now. If we sign Boeser and Guadette this year that only leaves one more spot for a CHL or College free agent..... hopefully one of Aston-Reese, Vecchione, or Brickley
- Mungo

Several contracts expire at the end of June, lots of room...college free agents can't be signed until August 15th I believe as per the CBA.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
TL said they would be looking for stop-gap type UFA's, clear out Tanev and Edler and bring in a Trevor Daley or Brian Campbell (or another elder D in trade return) to help reduce the workload on the kids but make sure in 2 years they are positioned to be paid and played appropriately
- WhiteLie


No interest in Campbell & definitely not Daley.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Mar 3 @ 7:34 PM ET
Several contracts expire at the end of June, lots of room...college free agents can't be signed until August 15th I believe as per the CBA.
- LeftCoaster



the Aug 15th deadline is only for the loophole for guys like Justin Schultz who are drafted by another NHL team.

guys who were never drafted can be signed at anytime.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 3 @ 7:35 PM ET
If truly this is a rebuild then cap & contract space r good to have.
Have to play all the angles for a year or 2.
We r maxed on our 3 contract buyouts for 1 more season.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 3 @ 7:37 PM ET
the Aug 15th deadline is only for the loophole for guys like Justin Schultz who are drafted by another NHL team.

guys who were never drafted can be signed at anytime.

- Mungo

Yes of course, thus I said "free agents". Boeser and Gaudette are Canuck property so they don't fall under that category and there's room to fit them in now if they wanted to sign.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 3 @ 7:43 PM ET
If they are still here

Tanevs NTC kicks in July first . After that we are stuck with him a long time

- VANTEL


I would be OK moving Tanev because of that reason. I think he still has 5 good seasons left, but those seasons should be spent elsewhere Either Tanev or Edler should be moved, not both, and Tanev makes the most sense to move at this time.
If a 1st and a nice prospect were offered I take it. A mid-first could fetch.us the defenseman I think is the best in the draft...Juuso Valimaki out of Tri-City.
So at this draft we would get Patrick (our 1st), Valimaki (Tanev deal), Ratcliffe/Popuguaev type (SJ 1st or our 2nd & Morgan Geekie (CBJ 2nd) our rebuild is looking good.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 3 @ 7:45 PM ET
I would be OK moving Tanev because of that reason. I think he still has 5 good seasons left, but those seasons should be spent elsewhere Either Tanev or Edler should be moved, not both, and Tanev makes the most sense to move at this time.
If a 1st and a nice prospect were offered I take it. A mid-first could fetch.us the defenseman I think is the best in the draft...Juuso Valimaki out of Tri-City.
So at this draft we would get Patrick (our 1st), Valimaki (Tanev deal), Ratcliffe/Popuguaev type (SJ 1st or our 2nd & Morgan Geekie (CBJ 2nd) our rebuild is looking good.

- Reubenkincade


Done your homework👍👍
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Mar 3 @ 7:48 PM ET
If anyone has their own NHL comps for the top prospects in this draft, I'd love to hear them.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 3 @ 7:57 PM ET
Yotes 1-0
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 3 @ 8:23 PM ET
Lots of UFAs and RFAs . I think guys like Subban and Pedan will be moved also
- VANTEL

Pedan may be lost to expansion. By the looks of it several Sbisa types are available, but not many appear to bring what Pedan does.
They currently have option of Sbisa Biega Pedan Gaunce anyone of the 4th line signees & Grenier.
I would take Pedan.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 3 @ 8:26 PM ET
Pedan may be lost to expansion. By the looks of it several Sbisa types are available, but not many appear to bring what Pedan does.
They currently have option of Sbisa Biega Pedan Gaunce anyone of the 4th line signees & Grenier.
I would take Pedan.

- Reubenkincade


Dorsett
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
Dorsett
- Nighthawk

Injured and may not qualify, has been mentioned here before and Carol raised this issue in a recent blog.

Edit: I would still take Pedan. I don't think Vegas is going to grab a contract to do teams a favour unless rewarded. We aren't/ shouldn't be in a position to consider that anyways.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Mar 3 @ 8:47 PM ET
Vantel and a few others may enjoy this article

http://thecanuckway.com/2...-rebuild-long-road-ahead/
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
That article had nothing new in it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:01 PM ET
That article had nothing new in it.
- Nighthawk

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 3 @ 9:03 PM ET

I do think more change is coming in the offseason and one or more of Edler Tanev Sedins or Eriksson will be gone
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