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shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Feb 28 @ 7:44 PM ET
Gardner better than Reilly?
Do you watch the games?

- imysam

Reilly can skate. Other than that Gardiner is a much better player. Reilly might improve but his shot will always suck.
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Feb 28 @ 7:46 PM ET
No Hjalmarsson?

*farts then leaves the room*
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 28 @ 7:51 PM ET
I think he goes off of points/60.
- Blackstrom2


ahhhh
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 28 @ 7:52 PM ET
First of all it was a joke, But he does have fantastic numbers for a rookie.
- mdw7413


Yeah, I just wanted to make the name joke thing. But seriously how do you get from Skeji to Shea? Sky I could get.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 28 @ 7:54 PM ET
Whoa whoa whoa.... That thumbnail pic is from well before hedman was a #1D!!!! #moot
- beerkeeper30


Yeah that was from back when people still thought Tyler Myers was good.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 28 @ 7:57 PM ET
Yeah, I just wanted to make the name joke thing. But seriously how do you get from Skeji to Shea? Sky I could get.
- Wetbandit1



Have no friggin clue. Or Skeegee
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 28 @ 8:07 PM ET
Tanner, You once told me that Brodie, Sekera,Leddy, and Yandle were all better D-men then Roman Josi., Yet they fail to make your top thirty list(while Josi does). Have you changed your mind on Roman Josi? Or the others?
- camfor

He picked leddy to win the Norris the season bfr last i guess he has regressed?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 8:45 PM ET
Hey Tanner, where are you getting your 5v5 scoring?

IM seeing Niskanen at 19th not 6th and Gardiner at 13th not 9th

- DDM-Coga

Corsica has him 6th and IIRC they don't count empty net goals as 5v5
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 8:46 PM ET
No Hjalmarsson?

*farts then leaves the room*

- kinigitt

Top 30? LMAO
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:01 PM ET
Top 30? LMAO
- Feds91Stammer


You're darn tootin

We are talking about DEFENSEmen right?

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 9:14 PM ET
You're darn tootin

We are talking about DEFENSEmen right?

- kinigitt

Yeah he doesn't move the offensive needle at all. You still have to have a 200 foot impact to make the top 30. He makes the top 100 D for sure.
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:22 PM ET
Yeah he doesn't move the offensive needle at all. You still have to have a 200 foot impact to make the top 30. He makes the top 100 D for sure.
- Feds91Stammer


You're too kind.

Points shmoints. He wins hockey games by preventing the puck from entering his net consistently. Also kills penalties, blocks shots, lays timely hits, makes smart outlet passes to his partner, who can then rack up the secondary assists by bringing up the ice.

By definition, he does what a defenseman should, very, very well.




Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 9:34 PM ET
You're too kind.

Points shmoints. He wins hockey games by preventing the puck from entering his net consistently. Also kills penalties, blocks shots, lays timely hits, makes smart outlet passes to his partner, who can then rack up the secondary assists by bringing up the ice.

By definition, he does what a defenseman should, very, very well.

- kinigitt

Yes but every player on the ice should contribute in every zone.
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

Feb 28 @ 9:46 PM ET
Yes but every player on the ice should contribute in every zone.
- Feds91Stammer


I'd argue that most in the list don't contribute as much in their end as he does. Comme ci comme ca. That's what forwards are for. Not everyone can be Bobby Orr.

I don't think good defensemen get enough credit for doing their jobs well anymore. That's where the cracks show up in the analysis. After all, winning the game is the object, not blasting pucks on net for easy stops, overcommitting on pinches and getting hosed for odd-man rushes the other way. Also, just my cave-man opinion, but a defenseman that doesn't kill penalties isn't a very good defenseman. That's my metric.
djc1877
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Melbourne, FL
Joined: 02.13.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:15 PM ET
No Rasmus Ristolainen?!?!?!

He only leads the league in PP Assists and logs around 25 minutes of ice time per game on one of the worst teams in the league. Take him any day of the week over at least 1/3 of this list.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 10:17 PM ET
No Rasmus Ristolainen?!?!?!
- djc1877

He sucks. PP specialist.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:18 PM ET
Brady Skjei is 9th, Niskanen is 11th, and Gardiner is 14th in 5v5 D Scoring
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 28 @ 10:18 PM ET
He sucks. PP specialist.
- Feds91Stammer



Shame when someone specializes in PPs.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 28 @ 10:19 PM ET
Brady Skjei is 9th, Niskanen is 11th, and Gardiner is 14th in 5v5 D Scoring
- rangerdanger94



skjei is a god damn communist, i don't care where he says he was born or how he says to pronounce his name
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 10:20 PM ET
Brady Skjei is 9th, Niskanen is 11th, and Gardiner is 14th in 5v5 D Scoring
- rangerdanger94

Nope. Stop using NHL.com. They don't know how to run a site.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 10:21 PM ET
Shame when someone specializes in PPs.
- Mr.Bobby

Should change his name to Richard Ristolainen
djc1877
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Melbourne, FL
Joined: 02.13.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:22 PM ET
He sucks. PP specialist.
- Feds91Stammer


Detroit certainly doesn't have anyone of his quality... he would be better defensively if the team had another competent defenseman on the roster.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 28 @ 10:22 PM ET
Should change his name to Richard Ristolainen
- Feds91Stammer



PP Snifferainian.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 10:23 PM ET
Detroit certainly doesn't have anyone of his quality... he would be better defensively if the team had another competent defenseman on the roster.
- djc1877

Green is vastly superior than Risto. GTFOH
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Feb 28 @ 10:28 PM ET
Green is vastly superior than Risto. GTFOH
- Feds91Stammer



He's going to carry you guys to the 2nd worst record in the east.
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