I still think you can fix the D w/o moving kane or reinhart



but if kane is not going to sign an extension, ship him out in a package to get the real deal for a d man

It allows for a great deal of rearranging the deck chairs without addressing the need for a top pair LHD.
- Der Kaiser

It allows for a great deal of rearranging the deck chairs without addressing the need for a top pair LHD.
- Der Kaiser

That was a good chuckle

I still think you can fix the D w/o moving kane or reinhart



but if kane is not going to sign an extension, ship him out in a package to get the real deal for a d man
- homiedclown

The question is without trading those two would it get you more of the same defenseman that you already have

The question is without trading those two would it get you more of the same defenseman that you already have
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I think nylander and the 2017 first rd pick gets you a lot of options for a d man

I still think you can fix the D w/o moving kane or reinhart



but if kane is not going to sign an extension, ship him out in a package to get the real deal for a d man
- homiedclown

Other teams often build up their D without trading their best players to do it. I mean trading is usually done by trading from an area of strength to improve a weakness. LW is not a strength.

I think nylander and the 2017 first rd pick gets you a lot of options for a d man
- homiedclown

2017 first homie

Other teams often build up their D without trading their best players to do it. I mean trading is usually done by trading from an area of strength to improve a weakness. LW is not a strength.
- GilPerreault11

if you extend kane

I think your fine with kane and bailey (since they have him playing lw)

asplund or nylander can also play lw


if you move reinhart to the dot, ror can move over to lw

the issue is the unknowns

will nylander be a top 6 player?
will kane be extended
will bailey be a top 6 player


you need 2/3 to fall into place, and it's then more than serviceable with the right D

I think nylander and the 2017 first rd pick gets you a lot of options for a d man
- homiedclown

Yes. When the season is over and before Vegas picks, those two (if it even takes that much) will pry loose an unprotectible LHD who has shown indications of Top Pair potential. That's when Murray goes shopping, and hopefully keeps 23 (extended) and 23 both.

2017 first homie


- GERBE!!!75PTS

if they are picking in the top 4, gotta grab Liljegren (RD)

if they are picking 5 through 8, grab Makar (RD)



if they are picking 8 or 9, gotta grab Valimaki (LD)

if they are picking in the top 4, gotta grab Liljegren (RD)

if they are picking 5 through 8, grab Makar (RD)



if they are picking 8 or 9, gotta grab Valimaki (LD)
- homiedclown

Stack up whatever picks we can get in exchange for Kuli and Franson, package it with our first to move up??

if they are picking in the top 4, gotta grab Liljegren (RD)

if they are picking 5 through 8, grab Makar (RD)



if they are picking 8 or 9, gotta grab Valimaki (LD)
- homiedclown

Valimaki looks like the real deal.

Stack up whatever picks we can get in exchange for Kuli and Franson, package it with our first to move up??
- Der Kaiser

I think the yotes will be all over Liljegren

Valimaki looks like the real deal.
- TheHank

IMO he may be the best of them

plus he has top line potential


if your ld's are
valimaki, mccabe and guhle

your probably set


find a second pair rd

drop bogo to 3rd, if you can't move him

if you extend kane

I think your fine with kane and bailey (since they have him playing lw)

asplund or nylander can also play lw


if you move reinhart to the dot, ror can move over to lw

the issue is the unknowns

will nylander be a top 6 player?
will kane be extended
will bailey be a top 6 player


you need 2/3 to fall into place, and it's then more than serviceable with the right D
- homiedclown

I think we should get back to the '05 - '06 model and build a top 9 instead of a top 6. We have the 3 pivots to make it happen. If the kids can take another step next year:

Bailey/ROR/Okposo
Kane/Eichel/Nylander or EROD
Baptiste/Rienhart/Foligno or EROD
Gionta/Girgensons/Carrier or Foligno

Guhle/Risto
McCabe/?
Falk/Bogo
Fedun

Lehner/Nilsson

Am I missing someone? Have to find a way to get Ennis/Moulson/Gorges off the team.

I think we should get back to the '05 - '06 model and build a top 9 instead of a top 6. We have the 3 pivots to make it happen. If the kids can take another step next year:

Bailey/ROR/Okposo
Kane/Eichel/Nylander or EROD
Baptiste/Rienhart/Foligno or EROD
Gionta/Girgensons/Carrier or Foligno

Guhle/Risto
McCabe/?
Falk/Bogo
Fedun

Lehner/Nilsson

Am I missing someone? Have to find a way to get Ennis/Moulson/Gorges off the team.
- Losman

Ennis has a higher cap hit but is only owed like 3.6m per now... I would think there would be a team to take a flyer on him if we retained a bit of it and they could get him for ~2.5m at the very least.

I think we should get back to the '05 - '06 model and build a top 9 instead of a top 6. We have the 3 pivots to make it happen. If the kids can take another step next year:

Bailey/ROR/Okposo
Kane/Eichel/Nylander or EROD
Baptiste/Rienhart/Foligno or EROD
Gionta/Girgensons/Carrier or Foligno

Guhle/Risto
McCabe/?
Falk/Bogo
Fedun

Lehner/Nilsson

Am I missing someone? Have to find a way to get Ennis/Moulson/Gorges off the team.
- Losman

I would take it a step further

get asplund on the dot as the 3rd line center, makes us faster


bailey-eichel-reinhart
kane-ror-okposo
nylander-asplund-baptiste
foligno or carrier-e.rod-gionta


that leaves fasching for a call up


you have girgens, larsson, ennis, moulson, foligno or carrier to move up front
gorges, kulikov, bogo, franson

maybe nilsson


you would think with those 10 bodies, you can get 2 decent d men

IMO he may be the best of them

plus he has top line potential


if your ld's are
valimaki, mccabe and guhle

your probably set


find a second pair rd

drop bogo to 3rd, if you can't move him
- homiedclown

SeemsTB would be looking for a D Man in return for Drouin. If Sabres could get him and not lose any of their top 6 forwards or Kane? Wow. Bogo and Baptiste. Have a nice day

SeemsTB would be looking for a D Man in return for Drouin. If Sabres could get him and not lose any of their top 6 forwards or Kane? Wow. Bogo and Baptiste. Have a nice day
- Hatboro_Swords

Would you trade reinhart for that?

SeemsTB would be looking for a D Man in return for Drouin. If Sabres could get him and not lose any of their top 6 forwards or Kane? Wow. Bogo and Baptiste. Have a nice day
- Hatboro_Swords

But we don't have any defense to trade.

Would you trade reinhart for that?
- TheHank

I don't think Reinhart is even on the table. If he is it would be for a top pairing defender and nothing more. Forward for forwards swaps for BUF just don't really make sense unless it's a vet of ours for a younger player.

Remember-GMTM's first pick, lives with our Franchise Center and can play pivot or wing.

I heard he loves it here, open to an extension
- homiedclown

thanks for the info

okposo is playing rw


prospects for rw
bailey
baptiste
fasching


at lw if sabres can't sign kane
we have ennis, sucks
nylander, unknown
foligno, third liner
carrier, 3rd or 4th liner
moulson, sucks


personally I would move ror and okposo to lw and have reinhart center second line
- homiedclown

When I was watching the Rochester game the other night,
Nylander was playing RW
Same with a game a saw about a month ago

I thought he was a LW also, but I guess not?

I don't think Reinhart is even on the table. If he is it would be for a top pairing defender and nothing more. Forward for forwards swaps for BUF just don't really make sense unless it's a vet of ours for a younger player.

Remember-GMTM's first pick, lives with our Franchise Center and can play pivot or wing.
- RhinoFan

I agree he isnt. Thats what begged the question, if he were to be available... like drouin mite be would that be enough? I dont think they want to take on another 5+mil defensemen, they are over 59m next year already and still have to sign johnson, palat, drouin, a backup goalie, boyle, and 2 more defensemen. Dont think they have the space or would even want bogo for that matter.

A lot of people are going to call me crazy lol

I did not like La la land I thought it was terrible I could not wait for the movie to be over lol

I'm sure others would love the movie but this comic book Junkie did not
- GERBE!!!75PTS

It was Hollywood giving itself a blow job.