I've heard how bad Bozak is for years. That he'd be out of the league without kessel etc. etc. He's a decent 40-50 point player, with great faceoff stats. He's also amazing in shootouts (why aren't they using him in shootouts btw?).
- mykokes

9 out of 10 he goes five-hole

floaters don't get rewarded with shoot-out chances.
- Tumbleweed

He should be moved - after a decade of mostly lousy teams, floaters are not welcome. Can't have rookies show veterans work ethic - which is why Komarov should stay.

How many 3rd line centres in the NHL have 39 points this season (19 goals, 54 points)? And how many of those said players are making 4M? I don't think he's a keeper, but he does have value.

That's why I said offseason, i.e. after the expansion draft. Maybe said expansion team will grab too many d-men in the draft and be looking to move one for a centre who can take faceoffs and score at a 50 point pace with whoever he plays with.
- mykokes

i'd be surprised if LV wants guys on 1-year deals in the draft. kind of a flip of the coin if vegas even takes him. i'd be looking for young controllable assets; what you can't find on the ufa market.

so sure, expose him and then trade him if not taken

How many 3rd line centres in the NHL have 39 points this season (19 goals, 54 points)? And how many of those said players are making 4M? I don't think he's a keeper, but he does have value.
- mykokes

Agreed...Pretty sure Leafs could trade over exposing in expansion..

So is he better than Marincin? Could he be better than Polak?
- mykokes

Marinicin struggles handing the puck, seems marchenko can handle it a bit better.

All are better than polak

I've heard how bad Bozak is for years. That he'd be out of the league without kessel etc. etc. He's a decent 40-50 point player, with great faceoff stats. He's also amazing in shootouts (why aren't they using him in shootouts btw?).
- mykokes

I've been criticizing him for years but it started with him having to play too far up the lineup which was not a criticism for him because he was all they had for a bit. He was max a 3rd line C with the ability to step into the 2nd line. Then 2014 rolled around and he gets a 3mil raise. So now he's being paid pretty good money to float, chip in a few pts and waste space on the pp.

Never have been fan, probably never will be.

How many players can a team lose in the expansion draft? 1 or 2?
- Matthews_Auston

American teams lose 1, Canadian teams 2...

He (Bozak) is currently tied for 38th with Jumbo Joe, Nate Mckinnon, Brayden Schenn (not really a centre), Logan Couture, Alex Steen in points for centres, ahead of Tyler Johnson, Ryan O'Reilly, Jaden Schwartz.

So wtf would you expose him and get nothing for him?

I've heard how bad Bozak is for years. That he'd be out of the league without kessel etc. etc. He's a decent 40-50 point player, with great faceoff stats. He's also amazing in shootouts (why aren't they using him in shootouts btw?).
- mykokes

0-3 this year.

How many 3rd line centres in the NHL have 39 points this season (19 goals, 54 points)? And how many of those said players are making 4M? I don't think he's a keeper, but he does have value.
- mykokes

How many points do think he has if he doesn't play on a line with Marner and Van Reimsdyk? He is above average on faceoffs, but his work ethic is poor. Was a liability last night.

He (Bozak) is currently tied for 38th with Jumbo Joe, Nate Mckinnon, Brayden Schenn (not really a centre), Logan Couture, Alex Steen in points for centres, ahead of Tyler Johnson, Ryan O'Reilly, Jaden Schwartz.

So wtf would you expose him and get nothing for him?
- mykokes

cap space is valuable.

0-3 this year.
- burn

so he's been used 3 times in 8 games.

How many points do think he has if he doesn't play on a line with Marner and Van Reimsdyk? He is above average on faceoffs, but his work ethic is poor. Was a liability last night.
- winsix

He was on the same pace last year, not playing with Marner, and JVR being injured.

That's not exactly great asset management. Odds are Martin won't get claimed, but Bozak and his 50 point pace would. So we'd get nothing for him. Wouldn't it make more sense to trade Bozak in the offseason and have Martin not picked....then lose Bozak for nothing and keep Martin? And lets be real, Bozak is the much better player.

Plus when they signed Martin, this team was still supposed to suck for a few more years. And Vegas wasn't happening. Plans change.
- mykokes

Bozak is easily replaceable.

It's clear that the offence doesn't run through Bozak. He barely hits or blocks shots and isn't exactly a defensive stalwart. His faceoffs are pretty much the only thing of value.

We need what Martin brings, in fact I don't think we have enough of it. Martin helps prevent teams from taking (too many) liberties on our young guys or at the very least a response by way of a scrap, big hit or even keeping teams honest so we don't send Martin after one of their young and talented players. I think that's WAAAAY more important than anything Bozak brings.

At the end of the day steps will be taken to ensure Bozak isn't exposed.

I want to be clear, I'm not about keeping Bozak on this team. But if the choice is to expose him, Martin or Komarov, I expose the latter two, and use Bozak as a trade chip.

How many points do think he has if he doesn't play on a line with Marner and Van Reimsdyk? He is above average on faceoffs, but his work ethic is poor. Was a liability last night.
- winsix

That's the thing with he and van Reimsdyk. I hate to speculate on things like work ethic because they are hard to quantify as an outsider. But Bozak and JVR look more like low-intensity floaters than anybody else on the team. Which is frustrating to watch.

I want to be clear, I'm not about keeping Bozak on this team. But if the choice is to expose him, Martin or Komarov, I expose the latter two, and use Bozak as a trade chip.
- mykokes

That's fair. I'd drop Martin in a heartbeat as well.

so he's been used 3 times in 8 games.
- mykokes

3rd most used shooter on the team

Bozak is easily replaceable.

It's clear that the offence doesn't run through Bozak. He barely hits or blocks shots and isn't exactly a defensive stalwart. His faceoffs are pretty much the only thing of value.

We need what Martin brings, in fact I don't think we have enough of it. Martin helps prevent teams from taking (too many) liberties on our young guys or at the very least a response by way of a scrap, big hit or even keeping teams honest so we don't send Martin after one of their young and talented players. I think that's WAAAAY more important than anything Bozak brings.
- As_I_See_It

So you think Vegas takes Martin in the expansion draft if we leave him exposed?
It's also easy to find Martin's and his 8:45 of ice time a game in fa...for a hell of a lot cheaper than his current cap hit.

American teams lose 1, Canadian teams 2...
- 21peter

all teams only lose 1

He (Bozak) is currently tied for 38th with Jumbo Joe, Nate Mckinnon, Brayden Schenn (not really a centre), Logan Couture, Alex Steen in points for centres, ahead of Tyler Johnson, Ryan O'Reilly, Jaden Schwartz.

So wtf would you expose him and get nothing for him?
- mykokes

I wouldn't expose Bozak or Uncle Leo. I think if you are going to lose them to expansion then trade them before you get nothing for them. That makes zero sense. I would rather lose Rychel or Martin before not getting anything for Bozak or Leo.

I doubt LV would take Martin over a young guy like Rychel.

He was on the same pace last year, not playing with Marner, and JVR being injured.
- mykokes

Played with Kessel most of the year. Kessel was Leafs best player. Bozak did not play with fourth liners or rookies. He has major consistency issues. Not streaky - disappears.

great avatar!
- BKups

Lot of good laughs in that movie.

all teams only lose 1
- Dozzer

I dint think he was serious....exchange trade joke?