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- Codes1087

Fresh?
No, but BMac is throwing Hutton's name around the rumor mill again...

http://canucksarmy.com/20...on-and-the-trade-deadline

(Sigh)...

Benedict Arnold had supporters too , doesn't make him right or good just agreeable to some.

Tryamkins potential alone is a big plus for JB , i for 1 see a top pairing potential in him and that is a key factor this team has yet to have for some time . JB has a knack to find talent , and nobody hits a 1000 when it comes to drafting and projecting talent.

stay the course and see what gems develop right under our noses

It's nice to have some prospects to look forward to while the team transition plays out. Notice Demko slipped down by playing on the Comets. JV is in bust category. Good teams generate better rankings it seems. Will the "Canuck effect" bring those prospects down more if they make the roster?
- Nuck4U

I don't think Button cares about the team the prospect belongs to, or even the team stats that the player is playing on. Boeser's UND isn't having the best season, and he has been injured for a good chunk and still number 8. I think you are reading TOO much into the position of the players. Take some positives instead. The Canucks have 4 players in the top 40, that is something to take notice.

Fresh?
No, but BMac is throwing Hutton's name around the rumor mill again...

http://canucksarmy.com/20...on-and-the-trade-deadline

(Sigh)...
- Whiskey-Tango

He's not wrong though. Are teams going to be extra hesitant to trade for a player like Hansen when they know he has to be protected? Hard to give up quality picks or prospects when he will automatically take up a spot on our protected list.

I also think he isn't wrong with Hutton. Hutton had a great rookie year, and a not so good second year. Teams know what he is capable of, and probably think they can buy pretty low right now seeing as how he has had a sophomore slump type of season. I don't disagree with Bob at all.

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- Codes1087

couldn't score in junior

I don't think Button cares about the team the prospect belongs to, or even the team stats that the player is playing on. Boeser's UND isn't having the best season, and he has been injured for a good chunk and still number 8. I think you are reading TOO much into the position of the players. Take some positives instead. The Canucks have 4 players in the top 40, that is something to take notice.
- Codes1087

Yes of course it's something positive. You made a good reference. My thoughts are leading to the way prospects can get chewed up under the weight of expectation.

Example Stecher was seen as a project to develop in AHL. He shows some ability and instantly is loved. His mistakes are written off as growing pains. JV screws up his training for summer. Not first guy was told to beef up and it hurt his game. He's at fault for his personal activity. Though it seems everything gets blown way out of proportion. So he now is a complete wreck, having his game deconstructed, to be built up one aspect at a time. Does that get recognized? Not really. It's all about his stats. He's lableled a bust.

So wonder about guys like BB, OJ and Demko. They won't get to progress like Bo as the team will not be able to shelter them given the holes. It's sink or swim. Leary of the pressure that could turn things on them.

He's not wrong though. Are teams going to be extra hesitant to trade for a player like Hansen when they know he has to be protected? Hard to give up quality picks or prospects when he will automatically take up a spot on our protected list.

I also think he isn't wrong with Hutton. Hutton had a great rookie year, and a not so good second year. Teams know what he is capable of, and probably think they can buy pretty low right now seeing as how he has had a sophomore slump type of season. I don't disagree with Bob at all.
- Codes1087

I had thought the same thing but really is it any different then a rental on an expiring contract? Not really. Chance you lose him in the draft is pretty much the same as not resigning him.

Yes of course it's something positive. You made a good reference. My thoughts are leading to the way prospects can get chewed up under the weight of expectation.

Example Stecher was seen as a project to develop in AHL. He shows some ability and instantly is loved. His mistakes are written off as growing pains. JV screws up his training for summer. Not first guy was told to beef up and it hurt his game. He's at fault for his personal activity. Though it seems everything gets blown way out of proportion. So he now is a complete wreck, having his game deconstructed, to be built up one aspect at a time. Does that get recognized? Not really. It's all about his stats. He's lableled a bust.

So wonder about guys like BB, OJ and Demko. They won't get to progress like Bo as the team will not be able to shelter them given the holes. It's sink or swim. Leary of the pressure that could turn things on them.
- Nuck4U

They will just have to play in the AHL till they are more ready.

Yes of course it's something positive. You made a good reference. My thoughts are leading to the way prospects can get chewed up under the weight of expectation.

Example Stecher was seen as a project to develop in AHL. He shows some ability and instantly is loved. His mistakes are written off as growing pains. JV screws up his training for summer. Not first guy was told to beef up and it hurt his game. He's at fault for his personal activity. Though it seems everything gets blown weigh out of proportion. So he now is a complete wreck having his game deconstructed to be built up one aspect at a time. Does that get recognized? Not really. It's all about his stats. He's lableled a bust.

So wonder about guys like BB, OJ and Demko. They won't get to progress like Bo as the team will not be able to shelter them given the holes. It's sink or swim. Leary of the pressure that could turn things on them.
- Nuck4U

he's not a WRECK as you put it nor is a BUST
real it in with the" expectant" hatred every player develops differently and only time will tell the truth.

his coaches all say he is getting better and learning the finer points of the game

They will just have to play in the AHL till they are more ready.
- manvanfan

Who will replace the players who r going?

Who will replace the players who r going?
- Nighthawk

free agency , minor trades, and depth signings with fix those issues

Who will replace the players who r going?
- Nighthawk

Free agents

Canucks will trade for a top 6 player after the expansion draft. No hurry to get it done

Canucks will trade for a top 6 player after the expansion draft. No hurry to get it done
- VANTEL

how about we trade Tanev to the oilers for puularvii (sp?) and a 3rd round pick? McDavid likes him and the Oilers will probably make the play-offs so its a lateral move for them that expands on their McDavid window to win

Canucks will trade for a top 6 player after the expansion draft. No hurry to get it done
- VANTEL

They can trade at any time even after the TDL.

He's not wrong though. Are teams going to be extra hesitant to trade for a player like Hansen when they know he has to be protected? Hard to give up quality picks or prospects when he will automatically take up a spot on our protected list.

I also think he isn't wrong with Hutton. Hutton had a great rookie year, and a not so good second year. Teams know what he is capable of, and probably think they can buy pretty low right now seeing as how he has had a sophomore slump type of season. I don't disagree with Bob at all.
- Codes1087

That is valid about Vegas effect on value. I have thought both sides of it. I'm leaning toward what a Cup contending team's focus and mind set would be at with the prize in the here and now. They can make that sacrifice.

Also, you could imagine they would have plenty of other attractive guys unprotected. So maybe a Hansen deflects from that.

As for a Hutton move for TDL might not be the smartest thing for Nucks. They don't risk anything by keeping him.

couldn't score in junior
- aschuter82

top 5 in the AHL in defenseman scoring now...

he's not a WRECK as you put it nor is a BUST
real it in with the" expectant" hatred every player develops differently and only time will tell the truth.

his coaches all say he is getting better and learning the finer points of the game
- onesmallleap

I think you misinterpreted my point. Look again. I said he's been labeled that. Pressure and performance worked against him. That judgments are blown out of proportion. I see him making progress in how they have deconstructed his game to build him back up.

I had thought the same thing but really is it any different then a rental on an expiring contract? Not really. Chance you lose him in the draft is pretty much the same as not resigning him.
- manvanfan

To an extent I guess. I still think you are better off getting a rental if you established your protected players. Better bargain for your prospects/picks.

Yes of course it's something positive. You made a good reference. My thoughts are leading to the way prospects can get chewed up under the weight of expectation.

Example Stecher was seen as a project to develop in AHL. He shows some ability and instantly is loved. His mistakes are written off as growing pains. JV screws up his training for summer. Not first guy was told to beef up and it hurt his game. He's at fault for his personal activity. Though it seems everything gets blown way out of proportion. So he now is a complete wreck, having his game deconstructed, to be built up one aspect at a time. Does that get recognized? Not really. It's all about his stats. He's lableled a bust.

So wonder about guys like BB, OJ and Demko. They won't get to progress like Bo as the team will not be able to shelter them given the holes. It's sink or swim. Leary of the pressure that could turn things on them.
- Nuck4U

I disagree with the above. I think it is safe to assume that most college free agents (undrafted) who are signed will most likely start in the AHL. I think that is almost given. BUT - Stecher (in either Button or BMack's words) was the most sought after, well rounded free agent available from the NCAA (and that is over Benning/Tanev/Cagguila). So in a way, yes its a nice surprise he in the line up, but at the same time, you kind of see (with gudbranson and multiple other injuries) why Stecher is where he is today. And I am not taking anything away from him as he has been a gem for us this year.

Looking at Cap Friendly, Hansen to Chicago makes sense. They have all their picks this year, and hey have a spot open to protect Hansen (7th spot would currently go to Kruger unless they want to expose him to try and dump his salary).

Looking at Cap Friendly, Hansen to Chicago makes sense. They have all their picks this year, and hey have a spot open to protect Hansen (7th spot would currently go to Kruger unless they want to expose him to try and dump his salary).
- Retinalz

Thought of that the other day but cap is the problem.

Fresh?
No, but BMac is throwing Hutton's name around the rumor mill again...

http://canucksarmy.com/20...on-and-the-trade-deadline

(Sigh)...
- Whiskey-Tango

Exactly what I have been saying for months. Feels nice to have my opinion validated by Bobby Mac Hansen isn't going anywhere. No goalie market. Burrows is available if anybody has interest. Hutton is the most likely to be traded

He's not wrong though. Are teams going to be extra hesitant to trade for a player like Hansen when they know he has to be protected? Hard to give up quality picks or prospects when he will automatically take up a spot on our protected list.

I also think he isn't wrong with Hutton. Hutton had a great rookie year, and a not so good second year. Teams know what he is capable of, and probably think they can buy pretty low right now seeing as how he has had a sophomore slump type of season. I don't disagree with Bob at all.
- Codes1087

I'm likely in the minority here but I actually think Hutton has had a better season in many ways. He is producing a bit less but he is also getting 3rd pairing minutes and partners compared to over half his season last year on the PP 1 and playing with Tanev who always makes his partners better.

I'm likely in the minority here but I actually think Hutton has had a better season in many ways. He is producing a bit less but he is also getting 3rd pairing minutes and partners compared to over half his season last year on the PP 1 and playing with Tanev who always makes his partners better.
- belcherbd

I would agree. In some ways he has been better, but he has been worse too. As one of the other 29 other teams, who is more appealing, a young defensemen who has shown success and who is automatically protected, or a 30 year old in Hansen who must require protection and will probably be pretty pricey due to his amazing cap.