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martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 19 @ 4:42 PM ET
is it just me or is sid stuck in his own zone ALOT
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
The 2nd chart is heavily weighted to this season. Dom doesn't have one with just the past 2 years or this season.
- j.boyd919


So there is no chart to compare this year to say a random Edmonton year....I'd like to see that...not some mash of Edmonton and Pitts vs just Edmonton
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:46 PM ET
So there is no chart to compare this year to say a random Edmonton year....I'd like to see that...not some mash of Edmonton and Pitts vs just Edmonton
- taleisyreXIII


There are websites like corsica.hockey or naturalstattrick.com where you can compare seasons and even get more in depth information. HERO charts just provide a quick glimpse into it. They aren't an end all be all, but to me they provide a good snap shot about a player. After looking at the HERO charts I then go to corsica or naturalstattrick and take a look at say... scoring chances, high danger chances, PDO, individual shooting percentage, relative stats to his team matespecially, and look at his stuff from prior seasons.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 19 @ 4:47 PM ET
that 1st line is a tire fire
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 19 @ 4:48 PM ET
I watched him in Edmonton. He's the same player. He's benefitted from not playing top line minutes, having competent D partners. And competent forwards. Advanced statistics are a record of what happened. They aren't "flawed." The way people analyze them is what causes flaws. Dude is the same player. Thriving in a lesser role. Pretty simple to see.
- j.boyd919


He makes much better decisions in his own end than he did in EDM.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:48 PM ET
So there is no chart to compare this year to say a random Edmonton year....I'd like to see that...not some mash of Edmonton and Pitts vs just Edmonton
- taleisyreXIII


Hockeyviz and hockeygraphs also provide some solid stuff too. There's such a wealth of information, it'd be silly to only look at HERO charts. They're just a quick indicator to show how a player is playing. The only bummer in my opinion s that they don't include shot quality. (Which is I usually go to naturalstattrick.com to check on scoring chances and high danger chances)
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:51 PM ET
He makes much better decisions in his own end than he did in EDM.
- Rinosaur


Riiiiight. I'ma have to agree to disagree here.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Feb 19 @ 4:52 PM ET
Helm just embarrassed himself
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Feb 19 @ 4:52 PM ET
Some of these guys need to start being selfish and putting the puck on net, instead of looking for the perfect play.
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
This time of year the NHL brand of hockey really starts to grate on my nerves. I get so tired of the punches thrown after whistles straight into ppls faces and never an effing call how many times is Hornie punched or crosschecked tripped slewed etc just for getting close to the blue paint....not even in it. This crap should always be called. Its beyond frustrating to watch so much crap get let go..
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 19 @ 4:56 PM ET
ye this game is over. no drive whatsoever to win. sid a disgrace once again. last 6 games he has had 4 0 points game.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
He makes much better decisions in his own end than he did in EDM.
- Rinosaur

madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
Why the hell Bones pass that?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
Helm just embarrassed himself
- DeflatedPucks

He always does that...
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 19 @ 5:00 PM ET
Why the hell Bones pass that?
- madmike71


So damn stupid.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Feb 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
The 2nd chart is heavily weighted to this season. Dom doesn't have one with just the past 2 years or this season.
- j.boyd919

144 56
How can the second chart be heavily weighted to this season when this season only accounts for 56 out of 200 games over that 3 year period ?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
144 56
How can the second chart be heavily weighted to this season when this season only accounts for 56 out of 200 games over that 3 year period ?

- willi

Because not each game is weighted equally...
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Feb 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
He's had a hell of a season and looks NHL ready. The season he's had has renewed my hope that he can one day be 3C caliber but I'd be surprised if he jumped into that role off the bat next season. I'd definitely protect him over Wilson and Kuhnhackl.
- Victoro311


Are you basing protecting Sundqvist over Wilson based on AHL numbers? Sundqvist has had a decent season so far but so did Wilson last year, 22 goals in 34 games.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
So damn stupid.
- acdc1206


Sullivan constantly stressed getting the puck on net when he first got here. He needs to do it again. They've been waaaaaay over-passing the past several weeks.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
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pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
We are seriously garbage lately
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Feb 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
Terrible by Guentzel.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 19 @ 5:20 PM ET
gn. this team is a first round exit and sid is below top 10 player in the world last 6 games. (frank)ing pathetic.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 5:22 PM ET
You guys want Vanek?
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 19 @ 5:23 PM ET
Hey whatdya know 4 goal Murray's in the house.

At least Crosby found his pulse.
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