Carey's not going to get a top 6 role in the NHL. He's a career AHLer like Brennan. Weal, Laughton and Leier don't have his booming shot, but they are all better offensive players than Carey.
- Feanor

I don't know.

Patrick Sharp wasn't a superstar in the minors from what I recall. The one thing Carey has done is score goals in the minors.

Be curious to know what the Flyers think of him.

Bill did not agree that it should be considered. He said it would be the worst thing that could be done.
- MJL

If you wanna be really specific.. he said mid season, but either way.. it aint likely to happen.

Once the base prospects are here you trade some of the current core to finish the puzzle
- dragonoffrost

A top 10 forward is a pretty big piece to need to finish off the puzzle

It wouldn't just end up being this season though. It would be several.

It hurts me to type that but in reality, holding on to some of these guys in their latter twenties is just depreciating assets with no substantial return. It could take a decade to retool drafting 11-20 every season.
- mayorofangrytown

Should have could have would have, but imagine if we did this right when Hexy took over. If we flipped Giroux, Jake, and one of Couts/Simmonds, we could have had several draft picks in the 1st rounds from the last two drafts. all while our team's draft picks being in the lottery with a rebuilding roster.

A top 10 forward is a pretty big piece to need to finish off the puzzle
- PhillySportsGuy

Duclair?

I don't know.

Patrick Sharp wasn't a superstar in the minors from what I recall. The one thing Carey has done is score goals in the minors.

Be curious to know what the Flyers think of him.
- J35Bacher

He is 26 years old. Patrick Sharp was in his second full season with Chicago and putting up 60 some-odd points at 26.

Duclair?
- coffee junkie

Not even close.

Duclair?
- coffee junkie

That's a move I'd do now before the final moves. I'd look at sending them Schenn or Jake and see what other than Duclair we can net.

There will be some tinkering with the core while drafting the rest of the the next core.

Great, so how do we acquire our Kane, Toews and/or Kopitar?
- PhillySportsGuy

Well, Kopitar was only the 11th pick.

You just blew my mind
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't know.

Patrick Sharp wasn't a superstar in the minors from what I recall. The one thing Carey has done is score goals in the minors.

Be curious to know what the Flyers think of him.
- J35Bacher

Sharp wasn't in the minors at age 26.

Great, so how do we acquire our Kane, Toews and/or Kopitar?
- PhillySportsGuy

Easy just have the worst record in the league the year Kane is in the draft. Oh wait....

Great post Bill. My GM "hat" is on. I don't believe goaltending is our biggest issue. Micheal Leighton took us to final in 2010. Team d is key. No one down with Phantoms can help with scoring immediately. I'd trade Streit for draft pick and whatever else we could get. That clears cap space. I'd package another dman (Manning, Schultz, Mac- God please!!) not necessarily a prospect (Hagg, Morin, Sanheim, Myers) with one of our "3rd line at best" forwards (Schenn, Coots, Raffl, Read, Cousins, Laughton, etc) and try and get some offensive firepower like Duchene, Draistail, Eberle, RNH, etc. Forget anyone older than 26-27 years old (not sure Tatar is answer). Our d prospects will be ready next season and season after. Our forward prospects are still a year + away (Lindblom and 2 Russians). We don't have a true 2nd line center and, right now, in my opinion, we have no scoring threat. Simmonds to me is untouchable as is Provorov. G and Jake need to step up and be our best players. Kocnecy needs time but has shown promise. Ghost needs to run our PP. I love our 4th line but they are expandable (unfortunately).
- cdearth23

Brayden Schenn is a 25 goal 50-60 point player. I'm not sure in what league that constitutes a "3rd line at best" player.

Brayden Schenn is a 25 goal 50-60 point player. I'm not sure in what league that constitutes a "3rd line at best" player.
- MJL

1980's NHL

My issue with Ghost being scratched (besides the whole multiple games thing) is that whenever he is inserted back into the lineup, he is stapled to the same dogpoop partner. If he has defensive issues, why pair him with a Manning or Del Zotto when they have had issues this year as well.

Why not try him with Provorov who can mask some of his deficiencies, or another play driver like Gudas where both will spend a lot of time driving offense.
- TobyFlenderson

Provorov plays top minutes against top lines. Not a good idea to put a player who is struggling as bad as Gostisbehere is, in that situation.

Provorov plays top minutes against top lines. Not a good idea to put a player who is struggling as bad as Gostisbehere is, in that situation.
- MJL

Or is it?

Brayden Schenn is a 25 goal 50-60 point player. I'm not sure in what league that constitutes a "3rd line at best" player.
- MJL

If a player can be a 3rd pair PP specialist, surely another player can be a 3rd line/bottom 6 PP specialist.

If a player can be a 3rd pair PP specialist, surely another player can be a 3rd line/bottom 6 PP specialist.
- Mononoke

The point is a 55-60 point player is a second line player in today's NHL

If a player can be a 3rd pair PP specialist, surely another player can be a 3rd line/bottom 6 PP specialist.
- Mononoke

Schenn is a top 6 scoring line winger.

Someone photoshop Wiese, VDV, and Bellemare on this!

Schenn is a top 6 scoring line winger.
- MJL

Do you think it's time to get Schenn back to the wing?

I know they want to spread out the depth but I think it's time to get back to Schenn on the wing and maybe Cousins back in the middle.

Schenn - Giroux - Voracek
TBD - Couturier - Simmonds
Read - Cousins - Weise
Vandevelde - Bellemare - Lyubimov


It's not perfect but I am not sure Schenn in the middle is what's needed. With Laughton playing with confidence in the AHL maybe it's time to see if he can handle 3rd line center duties.

The point is a 55-60 point player is a second line player in today's NHL
- dragonoffrost

The point is 5v5 (aka what line you're actually on), and PP points are two entirely different categories. It's very possible to be a top 6 forward at 5v5 and not get much PP time to bring your points down. Or to be a mediocre 5v5 player but get a huge PP boost.

I just love that Ghost is a 3rd pair PP specialist, and called that even before his slump this year.......but that logic doesn't apply to a forward like Schenn. Is Sam Gagner a top line forward pacing for 56 points? Because he plays on the 4th line.

Do you think it's time to get Schenn back to the wing?

I know they want to spread out the depth but I think it's time to get back to Schenn on the wing and maybe Cousins back in the middle.

Schenn - Giroux - Voracek
TBD - Couturier - Simmonds
Read - Cousins - Weise
Vandevelde - Bellemare - Lyubimov


It's not perfect but I am not sure Schenn in the middle is what's needed. With Laughton playing with confidence in the AHL maybe it's time to see if he can handle 3rd line center duties.
- J35Bacher

This lineup is missing Waffles!

The point is a 55-60 point player is a second line player in today's NHL
- dragonoffrost

According to last year's numbers, 55-60 points puts you in the 41-67 range of scoring. That's low end top line or high end 2nd line.

In regards to Schenn, it's misleading because he accumulates a disproportionate amount of points on the PP compared to most guys. He's also a mess defensively, so it's hard to play him big minutes at even strength. He and Simmonds are both more specialists than all around great players.

According to last year's numbers, 55-60 points puts you in the 41-67 range of scoring. That's low end top line or high end 2nd line.

In regards to Schenn, it's misleading because he accumulates a disproportionate amount of points on the PP compared to most guys. He's also a mess defensively, so it's hard to play him big minutes at even strength. He and Simmonds are both more specialists than all around great players.
- PhillySportsGuy

Second line away from Coots who can be 3C and eat lots of minutes.

Raffl-G-Jake
Schenn-Cousins-Simmonds
Read-Coots-Weise
YOU KNOW WHO!