THis sounds like an X-Files episode...
- opeth_pa

Does it? Its really just common sense.

I'm shocked people on twitter distorted what was actually said.



This is the coach calling a player who plays 17 ES minutes a game a 2nd pairing defenseman, and positively gushing about the potential of Ghost. And yet it's supposed to be terrible and controversial, like Hakstol committed the next Bowling Green Massacre.
- Feanor

It is possible that it came across differently in another session. They typically do 4 or 5. I wasn't there this year so no lengthy report from me. Sorry.

Someone's defending Panotch, calling him a knowledgable expert?!

This place never ceases to amaze.
- Mononoke

All these new guys around here

Patrick O'Sullivan is one of the most ardent analytics deniers on social media. He talks about it constantly to berate those who use them.
- Mononoke

Teams have the best analytics. The very best. It would make your head spin.

Let me just tell you Dave Hakstol is such a great guy. Such a great guy. It was very very classy of him to respond to that total loser woman -- she was not nice, not very nice to him. And I will tell you that she got schlonged by Hakstol. Believe me. Her question was a total disaster.
- Mononoke

lol

Patrick O'Sullivan is one of the most ardent analytics deniers on social media. He talks about it constantly to berate those who use them.
- Mononoke

I have no knowledge of his opinions on analytics. I just found it curious that he acknowledged that teams have stuff that fans don't. That isn't a surprise to me.

I wish we had someone with a degree in sports analytics to refute this, but alas, orangekrush2010 is no longer welcome here
- Mononoke

So he knows what is available to you and I by scouring the internet and what each NHL team has at their disposal? That is some degree.

I have no knowledge of his opinions on analytics. I just found it curious that he acknowledged that teams have stuff that fans don't. That isn't a surprise to me.
- Scoob

It's almost like if I read WebMD enough, then I can know just as much as real doctors.

Teams have the best analytics. The very best. It would make your head spin.
- PhillySportsGuy

I just wish someone could actually specify what they have that makes them better that's of this opinion....because if you say they're on merit better, then you need to explain what makes them better.

More efficient with analytics companies? Yes. But everything is crowdsourced online anyway. Maybe some advanced software to more easily detect patterns and whatnot? Probably. But is it really anything mind-blowing and difference making? And I call BS anyway that the Flyers 1) heavily use them and 2) there exists statistics they use that justifies some of their cockamamie decisions.

It's almost like if I read WebMD enough, then I can know just as much as real doctors.
- feelingkettle

Not even close, but nice try. I'll help.

It would be like you knowing about WebMD but also acknowledging that doctors have access to more data and information than the general public does.

It's almost like if I read WebMD enough, then I can know just as much as real doctors.
- feelingkettle

Doctors use WebMD all the time.

Not even close, but nice try. I'll help.

It would be like you knowing about WebMD but also acknowledging that doctors have access to more data and information than the general public does.
- Scoob

I wasn't talking about you. But since I read your posts all the time, I knew what you were going to say better than you did.

I just wish someone could actually specify what they have that makes them better....

More efficient with analytics companies? Yes. But everything is crowdsourced online anyway. Maybe some advanced software to more easily detect patterns and whatnot? Probably. But is it really anything mind-blowing and difference making? And I call BS anyway that the Flyers 1) heavily use them and 2) there exists statistics they use that justifies some of their cockamamie decisions.
- Mononoke

Please note that I make no value judgement on the quality of data and information available publicly nor the proprietary data and information that teams have. I just choose to accept that they do have proprietary data and information.

I also believe we landed on the moon.

Call me crazy.

I wasn't talking about you. But since I read your posts all the time, I knew what you were going to say better than you did.
- feelingkettle

Do you know what I'm going to say now? lol

Do you know what I'm going to say now? lol
- Scoob

Yes, and you're wrong.

I just wish someone could actually specify what they have that makes them better....

More efficient with analytics companies? Yes. But everything is crowdsourced online anyway. Maybe some advanced software to more easily detect patterns and whatnot? Probably. But is it really anything mind-blowing and difference making? And I call BS anyway that the Flyers 1) heavily use them and 2) there exists statistics they use that justifies some of their cockamamie decisions.
- Mononoke

What they have that makes them better, has been specified to you many times. No team heavily uses them, but even if a team uses analytics as part of the puzzle, it is significant. You label their decisions as cockamamie based on what? Results? I'd really like to see some of the experts on hockeybuzz put into a position of making decisions they have to make, and see how it turns out.

Doctors use WebMD all the time.
- Mononoke

So that's why my cough was diagnosed as lupus.

I just wish someone could actually specify what they have that makes them better that's of this opinion....because if you say they're on merit better, then you need to explain what makes them better.

More efficient with analytics companies? Yes. But everything is crowdsourced online anyway. Maybe some advanced software to more easily detect patterns and whatnot? Probably. But is it really anything mind-blowing and difference making? And I call BS anyway that the Flyers 1) heavily use them and 2) there exists statistics they use that justifies some of their cockamamie decisions.
- Mononoke

I literally cant think of a single metric that is in favor of VDV...Unless doing nothing is one of these fancy metrics.

What they have that makes them better, has been specified to you many times.
- MJL

Once more then. Just to humor me.

Once more then. Just to humor me with the specifics.
- Mononoke

Doctors use WebMD all the time.
- Mononoke

So that's why my cough was diagnosed as lupus.
- feelingkettle

Medical books in the wrong hands can lead to problems. Remember that Brady Bunch episode where Peter thought he had an awful disease because the pages of the medical book he read had two pages stuck together?

Also, there's no franking way you knew I'd say that. lol

- Giroux_Is_God

He meant Google.

He meant Google.
- Mordecai

I'd really like to see some of the experts on hockeybuzz put into a position of making decisions they have to make, and see how it turns out.
- MJL