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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 8 @ 10:51 AM ET
Which goalie is missing?
- BiggE


Neuvy

per Dave Isaac
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 8 @ 10:52 AM ET
Neuvy

per Dave Isaac

- dragonoffrost

Interesting
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Interesting
- BiggE


Also no call up replacement for Konecny at practice
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Interesting
- BiggE


he just got lost on his way to the rink. It happens
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Feb 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
Also no call up replacement for Konecny at practice
- dragonoffrost


vdv will just be double shifted
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
vdv will just be double shifted
- jmdodgeser4

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 8 @ 10:56 AM ET
Interesting
- BiggE


He's sick
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 8 @ 10:58 AM ET

- dragonoffrost



It is funny that out of all the actual real problems this team has it always comes back to Vandevelde. The guy plays less then 10 minutes a game.

My worry is Giroux has basically fallen of a cliff and that is a huge hole moving forward to fill. Our top line center has seemed to just regressed all in one season.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Feb 8 @ 10:58 AM ET
He's sick
- PhillySportsGuy


Sick of all their poop
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
He's sick
- PhillySportsGuy


Thanks Debbie Downer!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
It is funny that out of all the actual real problems this team has it always comes back to Vandevelde. The guy plays less then 10 minutes a game.

My worry is Giroux has basically fallen of a cliff and that is a huge hole moving forward to fill. Our top line center has seemed to just regressed all in one season.

- J35Bacher


VandeVelde is having sex with Giroux's wife. It's all his fault.

Edit: By sex, I mean afternoon tea.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
VandeVelde is having sex with Giroux's wife. It's all his fault.

Edit: By sex, I mean afternoon tea.

- jmatchett383



Can't be.

heard she has a thing just for gingers.

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
Exactly. He's played well, but playing well is relative to one's ability. Everyone, including Hakstol and Hextall know that they are overplaying MacDonald.
- MJL


I agree. Gudas is being used to carry his own pairing, MDZ has been injured, inconsistent, and can't play the right side. Provy-Streit leaked goals like a sieve. So they put MacDonald with Provrov rather than putting Schultz or Manning with him.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 8 @ 11:17 AM ET
He's sick
- PhillySportsGuy

I'd be sick too if I had to play behind this team
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 11:20 AM ET
Hakstol called MacDonald a top 3 NHL defenseman, and that the team needs his ability to get out of his own end more than Ghost's offense.
- Mononoke


I'm shocked people on twitter distorted what was actually said.

“I’m not comparing the two; I don’t think there is a comparison to be made. Mac has played extremely well this year, he’s played in a legitimate top three or four role all year and he’s earned that from day one of camp. He is an efficient player, I don’t care what social media says. I watch it, I study it. I know exactly what he does; he’s doing a good job. He and Ghost are different players, no question, they have different roles. So I won’t even compare the two in that regard. Ghost is out of the lineup for good reasons…”

“Like?” asked the fan.

“Oh, I’m not going to get into individual things here,” Hakstol replied, before diving into some complimentary and then philosophical remarks about Gostisbehere. “The young man has so much good ability. To become a well-rounded player is very difficult in this league. It’s easy to brush over some of the difficult areas of the game that sometimes aren’t performed really efficiently. You can’t be a one-way player in this league, and Ghost is not. Ghost can be a very good two-way defenseman with some outstanding offensive ability.”


This is the coach calling a player who plays 17 ES minutes a game a 2nd pairing defenseman, and positively gushing about the potential of Ghost. And yet it's supposed to be terrible and controversial, like Hakstol committed the next Bowling Green Massacre.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
I'm shocked people on twitter distorted what was actually said.



This is the coach calling a player who plays 17 ES minutes a game a 2nd pairing defenseman, and positively gushing about the potential of Ghost. And yet it's supposed to be terrible and controversial, like Hakstol committed the next Bowling Green Massacre.

- Feanor

to be fair...he did commit the first one
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 8 @ 11:29 AM ET
Semborski in a net at practice...
- dragonoffrost


This must be the expansion draft signing Hextall was alluding to in the STH meeting last night to protect Stolarz.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
I'm shocked people on twitter distorted what was actually said.



This is the coach calling a player who plays 17 ES minutes a game a 2nd pairing defenseman, and positively gushing about the potential of Ghost. And yet it's supposed to be terrible and controversial, like Hakstol committed the next Bowling Green Massacre.

- Feanor


As an organization, the Flyers reveal nothing about their players, their strategy or their plans, so when they make questionable decisions, they're going to be heavily scrutinized.

At least we now know Hak pays no attention to possession numbers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
As an organization, the Flyers reveal nothing about their players, their strategy or their plans, so when they make questionable decisions, they're going to be heavily scrutinized.

At least we now know Hak pays no attention to possession numbers

- PhillySportsGuy



No, we now know he pays no attention to the numbers fans pay attention to, and for good reason.
johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Feb 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
I'm shocked people on twitter distorted what was actually said.



This is the coach calling a player who plays 17 ES minutes a game a 2nd pairing defenseman, and positively gushing about the potential of Ghost. And yet it's supposed to be terrible and controversial, like Hakstol committed the next Bowling Green Massacre.

- Feanor


This response seems much better than the others that I have read.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
No, we now know he pays no attention to the numbers fans pay attention to, and for good reason.
- MJL



Are you trying to say he and the organization know there players probably better than fans do?

Come on. That can't be.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 8 @ 11:41 AM ET
This response seems much better than the others that I have read.
- johm12


There's more:

“It’s a tough transition to this league. Last year, everything went pretty well for him, especially offensively. This year, things haven’t come as easily for him offensively, I think that’s apparent to everybody. For him to sure up some of the areas of the game that are going to make him an outstanding defenseman in this league for years to come, not just today but for years to come and be what the Philadelphia Flyers need as we become a top contending team, these are very important growth steps that he’s taking right now. Everybody looks at just coming out of the lineup for a game or two but he’s been out now and had an opportunity for four or five days to have some great work days, I don’t know if you ever thought about it that way.”

Hakstol wrapped up his bit on Ghost with a vote of confidence in the kid’s past and future while rationalizing his present situation.

“He’s been a huge part of what we’ve done and he’s going to be an even bigger part of what we do in the future, but there’s steps that he needs to take as a young player to be able to grow.”
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 8 @ 11:45 AM ET
There's more:
- Feanor

BURN 'EM
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
There's more:
- Feanor



Have you seen any reports about Hakstol walking away red faced and angry?
johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Feb 8 @ 11:52 AM ET
There's more:
- Feanor


Where are you getting this from?
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