Long time listener first time caller here...

I've been reading HB from my middle class jail cell/cubicle on a daily basis for the past 5 years or so. This stretch of play has been one of the worst I can remember in a long time. A game or two here, fine. But this team is not even a little bit likeable. As a staunch giroux and coots defender the situation has become personally embarrassing given the lack of production. I know all this has been repeated verbatim but....I have no where else to express my feelings on this team, the wife just doesn't understand.....

As someone out of market it really pisses me off too that I'm shelling out coin on this team (game center)! I can't imagine having season tickets.

Anyway, love the content and the commentary here on our flyers. Hopefully the boys get things turned around.
- IvanBrovorov

Defintly the softest team in flyers history and maybe most boring,and with the worst 1 line C EV they ever had

Flyers are 5th from the bottom on Goals scored 5-on-5. That's also alarming. I think you'd agree that most "narratives" can be supported by a stat, even the ones that are outlandish.
- steelydan

Giroux's lack of production 5 on 5 is a big reason why.

Honestly curious if this is sarcasm or not. Any links explaining what went down?
- EducatedOpinion

http://www.broadstreethoc...-flyers-town-hall-meeting

Giroux's lack of production 5 on 5 is a big reason why.
- MJL

Can't argue that one

From town hall:

Hextall
-Loves the position the Flyers are in re: Vegas expansion draft. Opened to signing a goalie in order to sacrifice him to meet exposure requirements to protect Stolarz; strong indication they will not expose Stolarz. Seemed to want to protect Stolie.


That's interesting in a way. Maybe I am reading too much into it but that would almost suggest that they would prefer a cheaper option like Neuvirth over Mason who if singed would be expected to be protected.

Or I just could be totally wrong and didn't drink my MONSTER yet.

Giroux's lack of production 5 on 5 is a big reason why.
- MJL

So one player's production (or lack thereof) is responsible for a entire team's production. As opposed to the more logical answer, that the team itself is playing a certain style that has a trickle down effect to the players. I'll keep this post bookmarked for the next time that you want to excuse Player B's stats due to team stats.

From town hall:

Hextall
-Loves the position the Flyers are in re: Vegas expansion draft. Opened to signing a goalie in order to sacrifice him to meet exposure requirements to protect Stolarz; strong indication they will not expose Stolarz. Seemed to want to protect Stolie.


That's interesting in a way. Maybe I am reading too much into it but that would almost suggest that they would prefer a cheaper option like Neuvirth over Mason who if singed would be expected to be protected.

Or I just could be totally wrong and didn't drink my MONSTER yet.
- J35Bacher

Thats how I read it as well...

So one player's production (or lack thereof) is responsible for a entire team's production. As opposed to the more logical answer, that the team itself is playing a certain style that has a trickle down effect to the players. I'll keep this post bookmarked for the next time that you want to excuse Player B's stats due to team stats.
- steelydan

Show me where I said one player, and one player only is responsible for an entire team's production? We'll start there.

Bookmark to your heart's content!

Guys, there's just no magic fix here, they were already short on talent WITH Konecny, so it's not about to get any better without him.

Arguing about the line combos and who to call up right now is just pointless, they are going nowhere this season. I'm much more interested in what they do in the offseason.

If Hextall really doesn't see this team contending for 3 or 4 more seasons, it's time to explore trades involving Giroux and Simmonds. It would simply be foolish not to. G, while he's been struggling, is still highly regarded around the league and any good team with a struggling pp will be very interested. Simmonds value has never been higher, time to cash in.

These are 2 of my favorite players on this team, and their loss will probably set the team back in 17-18, but, if they really are 3-4 years away, it's the smart move to make.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/2/7/14543784/notes-from-flyers-town-hall-meeting
- Just5

Thanks. Nothing to big going on. I think the fan questioning Hak about AMac is a bit of a doof. Do you really think Hak is going to come out and say "you're right, he sucks, we're only playing him because no one else on the blueline can handle it."? And in all honesty, I'm not a Corsi person. I don't think AMac has been bad this year. There are at least half a dozen players who've been more concerning in my opinion.

From town hall:

Hextall
-Loves the position the Flyers are in re: Vegas expansion draft. Opened to signing a goalie in order to sacrifice him to meet exposure requirements to protect Stolarz; strong indication they will not expose Stolarz. Seemed to want to protect Stolie.


That's interesting in a way. Maybe I am reading too much into it but that would almost suggest that they would prefer a cheaper option like Neuvirth over Mason who if singed would be expected to be protected.

Or I just could be totally wrong and didn't drink my MONSTER yet.
- J35Bacher

I have always been a skeptic when it comes to anything the front office says. It certainly could mean he plans on protecting Stolarz, but he has no reason to say what his plan is at this time.

The way it actually came off to me is, "I dont have to sign either of our FA goalies until after expansion, and I can sign a different goalie just to expose to expansion." Saying otherwise would indicate he feels the need to commit to one of the goalies before the expansion draft.

From town hall:

Hextall
-Loves the position the Flyers are in re: Vegas expansion draft. Opened to signing a goalie in order to sacrifice him to meet exposure requirements to protect Stolarz; strong indication they will not expose Stolarz. Seemed to want to protect Stolie.


That's interesting in a way. Maybe I am reading too much into it but that would almost suggest that they would prefer a cheaper option like Neuvirth over Mason who if singed would be expected to be protected.

Or I just could be totally wrong and didn't drink my MONSTER yet.
- J35Bacher

Did anyone ask what the rationale was signing Wiese when the team is lacking speed and skill? Plugs 1 & 2 VDV and Bellemare already are empty slots in the lineup. Adding Wiese made no sense from jump street. Meanwhile Grabner scored goal # 25 last night. More goals than anyone on the Flyers with a 1.6 million dollar cap hit. Sad.

Guys, there's just no magic fix here, they were already short on talent WITH Konecny, so it's not about to get any better without him.

Arguing about the line combos and who to call up right now is just pointless, they are going nowhere this season. I'm much more interested in what they do in the offseason.

If Hextall really doesn't see this team contending for 3 or 4 more seasons, it's time to explore trades involving Giroux and Simmonds. It would simply be foolish not to. G, while he's been struggling, is still highly regarded around the league and any good team with a struggling pp will be very interested. Simmonds value has never been higher, time to cash in.

These are 2 of my favorite players on this team, and their loss will probably set the team back in 17-18, but, if they really are 3-4 years away, it's the smart move to make.
- BiggE

Boyd Gordon should be back in no time

Boyd Gordon should be back in no time
- YuenglingJagr

Who cares? Especially since he'll:
A. Be the 13th forward
B. This season is pretty much over

At this point, the only thing I want to see this season is a bunch of UFAs moved at the deadline. I'm much more interested in where they go from here

Guys, there's just no magic fix here, they were already short on talent WITH Konecny, so it's not about to get any better without him.

Arguing about the line combos and who to call up right now is just pointless, they are going nowhere this season. I'm much more interested in what they do in the offseason.

If Hextall really doesn't see this team contending for 3 or 4 more seasons, it's time to explore trades involving Giroux and Simmonds. It would simply be foolish not to. G, while he's been struggling, is still highly regarded around the league and any good team with a struggling pp will be very interested. Simmonds value has never been higher, time to cash in.

These are 2 of my favorite players on this team, and their loss will probably set the team back in 17-18, but, if they really are 3-4 years away, it's the smart move to make.
- BiggE

I agree with most of what you said here but I'm curious why now all of a sudden 54 games in, arguing about line combos is pointless when you've criticized the coach repeatedly for his line combos?

Who cares? Especially since he'll:
A. Be the 13th forward
B. This season is pretty much over

At this point, the only thing I want to see this season is a bunch of UFAs moved at the deadline. I'm much more interested in where they go from here
- BiggE

I could see one of the goaltenders having some value if a contender suffers an injury in net. Maybe Del Zotto interests someone. Outside of that the Flyers UFA's won't attract flies. VDV and Bellemare wouldn't dress on any contender. Schultz and Streit don't have any value either imo.

http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2017/2/7/14543784/notes-from-flyers-town-hall-meeting
- Just5

Wow Hakstol pretty much kicked MDZ, Schultz and Streit to the curb. Expect 2 of Morin, Hagg, Sanheim and Myers here next year. NICE!

Pretty funny they got Hakstol mad. But then again coaching in Philly can't be much fun when you face the fans.

The AMac questions were probably really snarky worded too.

Hextall seemed to follow along with everything he's said before only adding about trying to protect Stolie which isn't a shock. I've been thinking back door handshake with one of the current guys to sign after the expansion draft all along.

Homer played the corporate guy it seems.

I agree with most of what you said here but I'm curious why now all of a sudden 54 games in, arguing about line combos is pointless when you've criticized the coach repeatedly for his line combos?
- MJL

Probably because our thin talent on the roster just got even more thin. It's not going to be pretty for the next month.

I could see one of the goaltenders having some value if a contender suffers an injury in net. Maybe Del Zotto interests someone. Outside of that the Flyers UFA's won't attract flies. VDV and Bellemare wouldn't dress on any contender. Schultz and Streit don't have any value either imo.
- PLindbergh31

I could see Edmonton buying on Streit.

Wow Hakstol pretty much kicked MDZ, Schultz and Streit to the curb. Expect 2 of Morin, Hagg, Sanheim and Myers here next year. NICE!

Pretty funny they got Hakstol mad. But then again coaching in Philly can't be much fun when you face the fans.

The AMac questions were probably really snarky worded too.

Hextall seemed to follow along with everything he's said before only adding about trying to protect Stolie which isn't a shock. I've been thinking back door handshake with one of the current guys to sign after the expansion draft all along.

Homer played the corporate guy it seems.
- dragonoffrost

I think a fans perspective needs to be taken with a grain of salt. When I watch Hakstol behind the bench, he seems even keeled, and I don't see his face get red with anger with what happens in games, and we all know there are plenty of situations this year that could've pissed off a coach. I doubt some questions from some fans rattled him.

I could see Edmonton buying on Streit.
- dragonoffrost

Maybe. If they can get a 5th round pick for him I'd take it.

Probably because our thin talent on the roster just got even more thin. It's not going to be pretty for the next month.
- dragonoffrost

The reality is that there have been holes on the roster all season, and criticizing the coach for line combos has been pointless to do all season. There has never been a magic fix for that even with Konecny on the roster.
Many fans have suggested line combos. If the coach had used those combos with the same results, they would've just criticized him for not using a different set of line combos.

I could see Edmonton buying on Streit.
- dragonoffrost

The return won't be high, but I believe both Schultz and Streit will have value to a team for playoff depth defense.

Maybe. If they can get a 5th round pick for him I'd take it.
- PLindbergh31

I could see one of the goaltenders having some value if a contender suffers an injury in net. Maybe Del Zotto interests someone. Outside of that the Flyers UFA's won't attract flies. VDV and Bellemare wouldn't dress on any contender. Schultz and Streit don't have any value either imo.
- PLindbergh31

Yeah he would.

He is a solid 4th line guy who can kill penalties and has good speed. Can play physical if needed. I think you underrate his game a little.