Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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You do not give up Pronger that easily. - walshyleafsfan
He's not mean and dirty like that but a better skater and puck handler so future is his to mold it.
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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Yeah. Having a solid defense would be nice. It's a fine line right? Gotta have some offence as well. Whatever San Jose and Washington have going on is a team I'd like to watch. Too defensive and you end up with Nashville, Anaheim, St. Louis (couple of years ago) or Minnesota (obviously not this year). Those 4 teams (pre this season) I find hard to watch - walshyleafsfan
It's exciting to watch Leafs blow leads. Especially against crappy teams. |
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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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It's exciting to watch Leafs blow leads. Especially against crappy teams. - Nuck4U
Yep. They're playing some exciting hockey right now. Got a tough month of February, so they'll start to slide. 14 games in 28 days I believe. Be interesting to see how long the rookies last before they hit the wall. |
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Yeah. Having a solid defense would be nice. It's a fine line right? Gotta have some offence as well. Whatever San Jose and Washington have going on is a team I'd like to watch. Too defensive and you end up with Nashville, Anaheim, St. Louis (couple of years ago) or Minnesota (obviously not this year). Those 4 teams (pre this season) I find hard to watch - walshyleafsfan
A hot goaltender with a stingy defense can kill really offensive teams, see LA in 2012, 2014 |
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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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A hot goaltender with a stingy defense can kill really offensive teams, see LA in 2012, 2014 - DariusKnight
I agree with that. Many ways to build a team to a cup. Hopefully a Canadian team finds a way soon. |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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Nice picking up Brock Nelson Vantel. |
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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I agree with that. Many ways to build a team to a cup. Hopefully a Canadian team finds a way soon. - walshyleafsfan
Would be nice, been almost a quarter century since Montreal won it in 1993, Vancouver, Ottawa, Edmonton and Calgary all got to the Finals but couldn't win it sadly. The sad fact is with the vast majority of teams based in the US, it's more likely that they'll win the Cup. |
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Nice picking up Brock Nelson Vantel. - LeftCoaster
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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Would be nice, been almost a quarter century since Montreal won it in 1993, Vancouver, Ottawa, Edmonton and Calgary all got to the Finals but couldn't win it sadly. The sad fact is with the vast majority of teams based in the US, it's more likely that they'll win the Cup. - DariusKnight
I honestly believe that they have less pressure on them in the United States, the Canadian media and fans sometimes won't allow teams to build property. Always trying to take shortcuts. |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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- VANTEL
Big night against the defensively inept Leafs. Old school hockey with them, 6-5, the last few games I think. |
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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Blues win tonight and play again tomorrow. So Nucks can be either be 7 points out or 3 if they beat Preds. |
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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I honestly believe that they have less pressure on them in the United States, the Canadian media and fans sometimes won't allow teams to build property. Always trying to take shortcuts. - LeftCoaster
It's simple population, unless you're Toronto who can draw more fans even if some jump off the bandwagon to the ACC or Edmonton which got used to losing and expecting to win the lotto every year most Canadian teams can't afford to sell full tank-style sell off expiring assets for draft picks and fight for the bottom of the standings to their fans. No owner is going to accept empty seats while their teams suck for years stockpiling talented youth. At some point you have to take a chance and try to be competitive if only to get your youth meaningful games to help them get to the next step which is the transition from also-ran to contender. |
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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I honestly believe that they have less pressure on them in the United States, the Canadian media and fans sometimes won't allow teams to build property. Always trying to take shortcuts. - LeftCoaster
Sorry but no one likes to go watch crappy teams. Less loyal fans in the States means even less turn out or interest if team sucks. Your analysis is a short cut to common sense. |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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It's simple population, unless you're Toronto who can draw more fans even if some jump off the bandwagon to the ACC or Edmonton which got used to losing and expecting to win the lotto every year most Canadian teams can't afford to sell full tank-style sell off expiring assets for draft picks and fight for the bottom of the standings to their fans. No owner is going to accept empty seats while their teams suck for years stockpiling talented youth. At some point you have to take a chance and try to be competitive if only to get your youth meaningful games to help them get to the next step which is the transition from also-ran to contender. - DariusKnight
Exactly why Canadian teams can't win a Cup anymore. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either winning it ALL is the goal or being competitive and financially viable is.
Just me maybe but if I was a billionaire owner who's got a team, I could care less about the yearly bottom dollar because I'd be more interested in Cups. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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Pedan has had his opportunities, he doesn't have the foot speed to compete at an NHL level. - neem55
won the hardest shot on the canucks skill comp. Thats a great asset. But I dont agree he had his opportunities here. WD doesnt play him |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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Sorry but no one likes to go watch crappy teams. Less loyal fans in the States means even less turn out or interest if team sucks. Your analysis is a short cut to common sense. - Nuck4U
In a cap world it's just something an owner has to accept, or, be happy with never winning a Cup or having a small window to do so. |
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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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This is the guy that won fastest skater at the Canucks skills comp. Speed is not his issue - CanuckDon
wasnt it both fastest skater n hardest shot? |
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Exactly why Canadian teams can't win a Cup anymore. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either winning it ALL is the goal or being competitive and financially viable is.
Just me maybe but if I was a billionaire owner who's got a team, I'd could care less about the yearly bottom dollar because I'd be more interested in Cups. - LeftCoaster
The problem with that is, if you're a billionaire, you didn't get to that spot by allowing your business to fail like that. You're in it to make money, if you win Cups in the process that's gravy. Most businesses would go bankrupt the way that bad teams continually lose and try to sell hope every year. Only one team can win the championship every year and most times it's based upon luck of the draw, ability to stay healthy and overachieving by unheralded players rising to the occasion. |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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The problem with that is, if you're a billionaire, you didn't get to that spot by allowing your business to fail like that. You're in it to make money, if you win Cups in the process that's gravy. Most businesses would go bankrupt the way that bad teams continually lose and try to sell hope every year. Only one team can win the championship every year and most times it's based upon luck of the draw, ability to stay healthy and overachieving by unheralded players rising to the occasion. - DariusKnight
I would completely disagree with that, they don't buy these teams to get rich and make money, they've already made their billions. This is about vanity. |
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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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Exactly why Canadian teams can't win a Cup anymore. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either winning it ALL is the goal or being competitive and financially viable is.
Just me maybe but if I was a billionaire owner who's got a team, I could care less about the yearly bottom dollar because I'd be more interested in Cups. - LeftCoaster
There is no guarantee a team will win Cups if it sucks for years and just drafts. Actually being that bad for so long usually means you are doing things wrong. Your theory is narrow and flawed.
Quality draft picks while doing everything else in the toolbox at the same time builds teams to contend for Cups.
Plus being lucky to get a generational player always helps too. But that is not a plan or formula. Just plain luck. |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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wasnt it both fastest skater n hardest shot? - SMBDragon
I believe so..crazy tools |
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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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I would completely disagree with that, they don't buy these teams to get rich and make money, they've already made their billions. This is about vanity. - LeftCoaster
Vanity also means not allowing those teams to be bad so that they can have their billionaire friends watch and enjoy. Again, most owners don't want empty seats and losing teams and won't stand for it. |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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There is no guarantee a team will win Cups if it sucks for years and just drafts. Actually being that bad for so long usually means you are doing things wrong. Your theory is narrow and flawed.
Quality draft picks while doing everything else in the toolbox at the same time builds teams to contend for Cups.
Plus being lucky to get a generational player always helps too. But that is not a plan or formula. Just plain luck. - Nuck4U
Actually your theory is flawed, not once did I ever mention a timeline, you did, for some reason? You haven't a clue yet you just make assumptions all the time, thus I don't converse with you much. |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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Vanity also means not allowing those teams to be bad so that they can have their billionaire friends watch and enjoy. Again, most owners don't want empty seats and losing teams and won't stand for it. - DariusKnight
Some owners get impatient for sure, however, when American teams can sit in the weeds (at/near the bottom) and draft well (key point) they put themselves in a better position to win it all. |
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I would completely disagree with that, they don't buy these teams to get rich and make money, they've already made their billions. This is about vanity. - LeftCoaster
100% |
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