Damned if you damned if you don't...Using stats to support a claim is not "cherry picking" it's literally what you're supposed to do. The reader is regarded as being able to be at least somewhat intelligent and is assumed to understand that this isn't a doctoral level thesis.

The idea that you, of all people, are taking a condescending tone with me is hilarious. Wow! Talk about about getting roasted by the bottom of the barrel.

Anyways, you just can't win with you guys. It's ridiculous to even try.
- James_Tanner

You have proven to be wholly incapable of following a logical argument. Meaning, you either choose to ignore anything that doesn't support your idiotic conclusions, or you are simply incapable of following the discussion.

Either way, you are worthy of a condescending tone.

Grow up and quit behaving like a baby when someone proves you wrong, or points out logical inconsistencies in your conclusions. It would be a start towards actually getting someone to respect you.

... unless you are just a troll, in which case, carry on, you're doing fine.

Evaluating goalies on raw numbers is bad.
- Feds91Stammer

That may be, but like it or not that's how Vezina nominees are selected. Having the conversation about the 3 best goaltenders in any given season is a different conversation than the one about who is going to be nominated for the Vezina.

You have proven to be wholly incapable of following a logical argument. Meaning, you either choose to ignore anything that doesn't support your idiotic conclusions, or you are simply incapable of following the discussion.

Either way, you are worthy of a condescending tone.

Grow up and quit behaving like a baby when someone proves you wrong, or points out logical inconsistencies in your conclusions. It would be a start towards actually getting someone to respect you.

... unless you are just a troll, in which case, carry on, you're doing fine.
- Aetherial

Nearly every day I use imput form early commenters to fix the blog. If I am shown to be wrong, I change my mind and or opinion 100% of the time. You haven't proven me wrong and you're just proving my point that people who are no more than trolls and don't have anything real to say just try to be condescending to make themselves sound smart.

Doesn't work on me, cause I'm on to you.

Like, where did you "Prove" me wrong? You are a disgusting liar.

That may be, but like it or not that's how Vezina nominees are selected. Having the conversation about the 3 best goaltenders in any given season is a different conversation than the one about who is going to be nominated for the Vezina.
- tkecanuck341

It shouldn't be that way which I think is pretty much the point of this blog.

You have proven to be wholly incapable of following a logical argument. Meaning, you either choose to ignore anything that doesn't support your idiotic conclusions, or you are simply incapable of following the discussion.

Either way, you are worthy of a condescending tone.

Grow up and quit behaving like a baby when someone proves you wrong, or points out logical inconsistencies in your conclusions. It would be a start towards actually getting someone to respect you.

... unless you are just a troll, in which case, carry on, you're doing fine.
- Aetherial

I respect Tanner.

It shouldn't be that way which I think is pretty much the point of this blog.
- Feds91Stammer

I don't disagree, but unfortunately that's not going to change anytime soon.

I don't disagree, but unfortunately that's not going to change anytime soon.
- tkecanuck341

Too many hack writers with voting credentials.

It shouldn't be that way which I think is pretty much the point of this blog.
- Feds91Stammer

Man, what a joke! A light-hearted take on a great under-appreciated player and people have to get crazy militant about it. Get a grip dudes, it's hockey, a blog, and a trophy.

The best part has to be me getting called a "troll" by people with absolutely no self awareness.

At least 2 or 3 people got it, so that's a bit heartening.

Nearly every day I use imput form early commenters to fix the blog. If I am shown to be wrong, I change my mind and or opinion 100% of the time. You haven't proven me wrong and you're just proving my point that people who are no more than trolls and don't have anything real to say just try to be condescending to make themselves sound smart.

Doesn't work on me, cause I'm on to you.

Like, where did you "Prove" me wrong? You are a disgusting liar.
- James_Tanner

Do you even have any idea how much you argue, and sound like, Donald Trump?

PS. I did prove you wrong, absolutely. I will take comfort in the knowledge that, deep down inside, you know you were beaten, cleanly, with your own stats.

James, what would you think if the Coyotes hired Hitchcock for head coach? Seems like their youth are being mismanaged and the team has been a tire fire since the day they hired Gretzky, think Hitch could come in and work with them? He could potentially help Chayka out a bit too...Seems like something worth exploring if they're even interested in having a good team that is...

I guess Thomas Greiss has a change to win the Vezina as well

James Tanner: Mike Smith Deserves Vezina Consideration
it's true

If the standard of winning the Vezina was how many games was the goalie's team competitive in because of him alone, then Mike Smith would win it. By a mile.


- James_Tanner

Your title should be: "Mike Smith Deserves Vezina Consideration (based on the new criteria I have based the award on)"

Tanner. What do you think of nicknaming Smith "The Catcher in the Dry"?

Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.

Tanner. What do you think of nicknaming Smith "The Catcher in the Dry"?

Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
- eichiefs9

Laugh my ass off!

Do you even have any idea how much you argue, and sound like, Donald Trump?

PS. I did prove you wrong, absolutely. I will take comfort in the knowledge that, deep down inside, you know you were beaten, cleanly, with your own stats.
- Aetherial

Yeah, good one, liar.

James, what would you think if the Coyotes hired Hitchcock for head coach? Seems like their youth are being mismanaged and the team has been a tire fire since the day they hired Gretzky, think Hitch could come in and work with them? He could potentially help Chayka out a bit too...Seems like something worth exploring if they're even interested in having a good team that is...
- mgriffen

I think they need a new coach, but not necessarily an old guy like that. Plus, Hitchcock is 100 he doesn't need to go to a rebuilding mess of a team. (Watch him end up in Vegas).

Yeah, good one, liar.
- James_Tanner

You seem upset.

I'm not even going to read your argument. Hahahahahahaha!!!! Yeah let's give all the awards to guys on the bottom feeder teams. Let's give the Hart to Shane Doan while we're at it.

I thought the blog was good for a chuckle.

Jimmy T.... do you think they'll keep the Coyotes name when they move to Quebec ?

So click bait works.

James Tanner: Mike Smith Deserves Vezina Consideration
it's true
- James_Tanner

Your blogs got me like...

Yeah, good one, liar.
- James_Tanner

Sad!

Mike Smith is on the Coyotes, which is why I didn't include these misleading stats. The point is to say that the Coyotes would be about ten points behind the Avs without him and not the other way around.

So now real tangible stats are misleading?

What shall we call them? Perhaps alternative stats will do

Only question is when are real tangible stats misleading and when are they not?

When you say misleading stats, did you mean misleading facts?
- Mentalorgasm5